Dude says "God doesn't EXIST!" says this world is a mystery

[LordRaikage]

says the dude who still posting on the same forum but all his posts are as useless as BLM movement :lol

OT: God is fanfiction to satisfy a good load of people like the op the dude who believes some mass murderer killed numerous people becoz of his gay urges :lol outright pathetic

don't Blame God for being a loser that's your life decision.

 

[LordRaikage]

Your God can be a cow or elephantlike creature for the indians, a fat guy out of stone for buddhists, something unimaginable for muslims/christians or can be nonexistent

Let everyone believe in what they want, dont try to force them

andddddddddddddddd indians don't worship cows, they think they are sacred.

And in Christianity "the cow" has a non-popular story, the reason why they don't think of them as sacred.

 

[Callypigia]

The real question is: Does it matter if there is or isn't a God?

Religion isn't some cosmic shortcut that prevents suffering in life. Everyone experiences it whether they have beliefs or not. People should focus more on compassion, humility, and mindfulness than arguing over the possibility of a supernatural entity.

 

[Made in Heaven]

The real question is: Does it matter if there is or isn't a God?

Considering the concept of Hell is a thing in the world's 2 biggest religions, I'd argue yeah.

 

[Dantе]

The real question is: Does it matter if there is or isn't a God?

Religion isn't some cosmic shortcut that prevents suffering in life. Everyone experiences it whether they have beliefs or not. People should focus more on compassion, humility, and mindfulness than arguing over the possibility of a supernatural entity.

Only if this could be ever done

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

That's why we have faith. Evidence however comes in depending on what kind.

Edit: Your posts are getting a bit cringe-worthy. Just making yourself look a bit idiotic. No offense of course.

 

[Callypigia]

Considering the concept of Hell is a thing in the world's 2 biggest religions, I'd argue yeah.

All religions do, but I would argue that God's existence still does not matter. If there was a Heaven and Hell that existed on a different physical/spiritual plane and acted as some reward/punishment system our actions are more relevant than our beliefs.

 

[Made in Heaven]

All religions do, but I would argue that God's existence still does not matter. If there was a Heaven and Hell that existed on a different physical/spiritual plane and acted as some reward/punishment system our actions are more relevant than our beliefs.

I in no way deny that our actions to humans, animals, and the environment would affect how we would be rewarded/punished. But, if we are to be judged on our actions towards creation, then we would definitely be judged on our actions towards the creator. God gave humans rights, animals rights, and the environment rights, all of which we must do our best to fulfill, so it's only natural we fulfill God's rights as well. So I do believe beliefs are important, more so than actions, as our actions primarily relate to the creation, while our beliefs relate to the creator, who is superior.

 

[Deadlift]

While I agree with you OP, these sort of threads go no where and only result in insults back and forth, for the most part. But I guess this is all that attracts people to NB nowadays, huh? If this is how it's going to be, there should just be a religious/philosophy section.

It wouldn't even be a bad idea. Lol

 

[Lord Solo King ItachiSama]

Have you ever thought that there might be "God the Mother" also ??????

 

[Marin]

Naturalism and God never mix. Don't mix the 2 :|

Only if you mean metaphysical naturalism. Methodological naturalism is perfectly compatible with belief in God.

God very well may exist but that doesn't mean it's the same concept you have in your mind.

Finally, someone points this out!

That is dumb :sdo:

If saying there no God is dumb, then saying there is God is dumb as well :| one cannot hold without the other because one cannot disprove the other meaning holding one as superior to the other is argumentum ad ignorantiam

You certainly can prove that a certain God doesn't exists. All you had to do is show that the concept is incoherent or prove that the world as described is incompatible with the said notion of God. (For example a God who has the role of creating the world would be effectively disproven should the world turn out to be eternal.)

Likewise, one can prove God exists if they manage to show that the notion of the said God not existing is incoherent or if the world as described could only be possible if the said God exists. (For example should the world turn out to be created by something, then that would effectively prove the existence of the said God who is described as creating the world.)

 

[BLAZE]

don't Blame God for being a loser that's your life decision.

don't quote me becoz i have more post than you on a forum in which you shitpost and moan about your fanfics.

there are plenty of ways to get high post count like spam threads but then again 90% of your posts here are how atheists or sasuke fans have made you butthurt and others are weebs despite you having that un :lol

 

[Marin]

The real question is: Does it matter if there is or isn't a God?

Religion isn't some cosmic shortcut that prevents suffering in life. Everyone experiences it whether they have beliefs or not. People should focus more on compassion, humility, and mindfulness than arguing over the possibility of a supernatural entity.

I have actually been reflecting on this (as a Christian with heavy doubts). Just what exactly does it mean for me that God exists? I'm gonna suffer all the same here and even as an atheist I'd work on the same goal of trying to minimize said suffering. I wondered then if God is anything else than an unnecessary addition of a sky tyrant who will reward some but punish others...

Then I realized that the difference God (atleast the one I believe in) presents one thing we can't have here - real justice. We all indeed suffer but if God is real then those who suffer will be compensated by eternal bliss, not cold dirt that will swallow them for all eternity. Also, God gives me personally the one thing I cannot have otherwise - peace.

So personally these 2 are the differences that God's existence makes but in regards to people in general, I think it's a simple attachment to the concept that makes them go on defensive when a rising number of people challenges it (or worse yet openly insults it). But since you're a psychologist I think you know well what a defense mechanism is so I will leave it at that.

 

[Callypigia]

I in no way deny that our actions to humans, animals, and the environment would affect how we would be rewarded/punished. But, if we are to be judged on our actions towards creation, then we would definitely be judged on our actions towards the creator. God gave humans rights, animals rights, and the environment rights, all of which we must do our best to fulfill, so it's only natural we fulfill God's rights as well. So I do believe beliefs are important, more so than actions, as our actions primarily relate to the creation, while our beliefs relate to the creator, who is superior.

I see your point, but lets assume there really is, without any doubt, a God, a Heaven, and a Hell. Every religion and culture has a different concept of God, and with it comes multiple moral codes as a part of "God's Right" (religious dietary regulations for example). So there are a few implications to this:

1. God's moral code falls on a continuum, and not all sins are weighed the same. Therefore humans of all beliefs are judged more on over-arching greater truths than smaller actions (i.e., "do onto others...; Satya"). In that case actions are more important than an individualistic belief in God.

2. Only one religion is correct, and everyone who does not believe the exact set of "God's Rights" are doomed to eternal retribution (i.e., no one gets into Heaven except through the son). This is the only scenario which belief would be more important than action. If you believe your god is not that vindictive then ultimately you would acknowledge actions are more important than beliefs.

3. Humans are incapable of interpreting the meaning of an entity so vast and incomprehensible that it could create the cosmos, and that is why humans have so many varying interpretations of "God's Right." In that case action (and maybe intention) are more important than beliefs.

 

[Marin]

OT: I don't believe in God, Lawrence Krauss he said that de universe come into existence from nothing, because the total energy of the universe will always 0 so.. is not necessary a divine force.
Anyway try to watch Closer to Truth, you will like this channel!

Friend, let me tell you something. Krauss has no idea what nothing is. In fact you'd be best off staying away from every scientist who claims to know whether there is or isn't God. If you really want to deny the cosmic beginning the best thing for you to do is accept a philosophical position known as eternalism. On it nothing ever begins to exist and the passage of time is an illusion. As Carl Sagan said:

"The Cosmos is all that is or was or ever will be."

 

[Made in Heaven]

1. God's moral code falls on a continuum, and not all sins are weighed the same. Therefore humans of all beliefs are judged more on over-arching greater truths than smaller actions (i.e., "do onto others...; Satya"). In that case actions are more important than an individualistic belief in God.

That leaves the question as to what is over-arching greater truths, doesn't it? It's pretty subjective, considering, for example, Islam's heavy restrictions on sexual activity and inter-gender mingling. One could easily argue that belief in, obedience, and submission to God is a greater truth in this case.

2. Only one religion is correct, and everyone who does not believe the exact set of "God's Rights" are doomed to eternal retribution (i.e., no one gets into Heaven except through the son). This is the only scenario which belief would be more important than action. If you believe your god is not that vindictive then ultimately you would acknowledge actions are more important than beliefs.

It's not a matter of God being vindictive, not in the slightest. God even rhetorically asks "What would I even get by punishing you?" in the Quran. And it is true. Whether God punishes us or not will not affect him in anyway. His superiority and divinity will never diminish no matter how many humans disbelief or disobey him. It's simply about serving justice to those who've wronged. God is more than willing to forgive anything we do outside of associating partners with him in creation and power (like worshiping status or humans). If he is willing to forgive anything, the idea of him punishing for revenge makes no sense.

3. Humans are incapable of interpreting the meaning of an entity so vast and incomprehensible that it could create the cosmos, and that is why humans have so many varying interpretations of "God's Right." In that case action (and maybe intention) are more important than beliefs.

This is true. Humans can never comprehend God. This is why he sends revelations to his Prophets in order for us to understand what we need to know about him and his laws in order to obey him properly. Therefore, there is in fact one true way to follow, since it has been revealed, making all other interpretations invalid.

 

[Hyun ryu]

Friend, let me tell you something. Krauss has no idea what nothing is. In fact you'd be best off staying away from every scientist who claims to know whether there is or isn't God. If you really want to deny the cosmic beginning the best thing for you to do is accept a philosophical position known as eternalism. On it nothing ever begins to exist and the passage of time is an illusion. As Carl Sagan said:

"The Cosmos is all that is or was or ever will be."

Besides, if I'm not mistaken, Krauss's "nothing" is more like a quantum-vacuum, which is not nothing. Besides, the total energy is 0 only because the positive and negative energies are equal, but then again, how come there is positive and negative energy in the first place. I remember watching a documentary where Hawking was talking about the same thing, and the film exemplified it with someone digging a hole in the ground...the hole got deeper but there was a pile amassed next to it...and that was supposed to show that the amount is the same, despite there is a positive mass and a negative one (the hole). I was an atheist back then but even then I noticed it's kinda flawed reasoning, because there still has to be a ground first to dig...so how comes it's there to begin with...

 

[Marin]

Besides, if I'm not mistaken, Krauss's "nothing" is more like a quantum-vacuum, which is not nothing. Besides, the total energy is 0 only because the positive and negative energies are equal, but then again, how come there is positive and negative energy in the first place. I remember watching a documentary where Hawking was talking about the same thing, and the film exemplified it with someone digging a hole in the ground...the hole got deeper but there was a pile amassed next to it...and that was supposed to show that the amount is the same, despite there is a positive mass and a negative one (the hole). I was an atheist back then but even then I noticed it's kinda flawed reasoning, because there still has to be a ground first to dig...so how comes it's there to begin with...

Indeed, Krauss may have good contributions to science but his philosophy is on an embarassing level. Out of curiosity tho, what made you change your mind about God?

 

[Hyun ryu]

Indeed, Krauss may have good contributions to science but his philosophy is on an embarassing level. Out of curiosity tho, what made you change your mind about God?

See rep comment xd

 

[chopstickchakra]

how can people say that there is no God?

and be so "certain" , yet their most brilliant minds on this planet can't even tell us why we dream?

lol they can't even explain why the chicken came before the egg.

CAn't even find the 9th planet in our solar system?

Can't even go more than 11,000 miles below the Ocean, which is less than 5% of the entire OCean?

lol most scientists even had giant squids are a myth and can't exist yet in recent years they found one.

so how can you say for 100% certain that God doesn't exist? without exploring the planet 100% and the solar system we live in which is microscopic compared to other.

Most people tend to forget that they are specks of dust compared to some planets and we are still discovering new planets and species everyday.

lmfao ffs the ocean is sooo deep and DARK mermaids could be down there FFS lol

LESS THAN 5% of our Oceans explored
LESS THAN 10% of Our Caves explored
LEss Than 0.00000001%(????) of the universe explored
LESS than ????? of our solar system explored.

The World's a Mystery.

Ancient humans record humanoid like creatures with freaking wings lol and people today be like Nah load of bs

Ancient humans record Giant Humans (which the bible stated angels and daughter's mated creating giant humans)

which scientists recently found bones of giant humans hmmm


Tldr; the world is a huge mystery most don't know this they only notice the things right infront of them.
even more mysterious the "multiverses" can't say God doesn't exist yet WAY! too soon.

I like the ones who say God can't exist and we weren't created yet believe in the computer program theory that sayd we're all a simulation. That's the exact same conclusion.