Dual MS Kakashi Gauntlet

[SasukeISjesus]

Kakashi has both of Obitos eyes. He doesn't have any of Hagoromos chakra, is rested and at his normal war arc stamina peak. No PS

Which ones does he win and lose


1. Might Guy (8th Gate restricted)
2. Obito (Rinnegan + MS; V2 and BM restricted for Jins)
3. Edo Itachi
4. Edo Minato (Kurama avatar restricted)
5. EMS Sasuke (PS Restricted)
6. BSM Naruto (Kurama avatar restricted)
7. Edo Madara (PS restricted)
8. Edo Itachi + Edo Nagato (Black hair form)
9. Edo Minato + Edo Tobirama (
10. BM Naruto + EMS Sasuke (BSM Restricted)
11. 8th Gate Guy
12. Juubito

 

[Uverdore9]

He clears all except Juubito.

 

[salamander uchiha]

He negs4, 6 and 9 and possibly beats 1 and 2 high difficulty.

 

[AJBecky BlissRollins]

Stops at 11.

 

[Animegoin]

He won’t make it past 1, tbh. If we’re allowing miracles to happen though, he dies at Madara.

 

[Oblivionx]

Kakashi has both of Obitos eyes. He doesn't have any of Hagoromos chakra, is rested and at his normal war arc stamina peak. No PS

Which ones does he win and lose


1. Might Guy (8th Gate restricted)
2. Obito (Rinnegan + MS; V2 and BM restricted for Jins)
3. Edo Itachi
4. Edo Minato (Kurama avatar restricted)
5. EMS Sasuke (PS Restricted)
6. BSM Naruto (Kurama avatar restricted)
7. Edo Madara (PS restricted)
8. Edo Itachi + Edo Nagato (Black hair form)
9. Edo Minato + Edo Tobirama (
10. BM Naruto + EMS Sasuke (BSM Restricted)
11. 8th Gate Guy
12. Juubito

he beats bold.
He can beat madara if madara has no intel on kamui. And obito is also a may be.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

stops at 12. Even without rikudou chakra to do kamui shuriken, perfect susanoo and black raikiri, he still has access to kamui raikiri, which 1 shots everyone bar juubito. Only reason he doesn't beat juubito is because juubito movement speed exceeds his reactions. Give him rikudou chakra and he can react, and even juubito will catch the business.

 

[Animegoin]

Obito’s MS will drain the living hell out of Kakashi’s chakra = gg.

stops at 12. Even without rikudou chakra to do kamui shuriken, perfect susanoo and black raikiri, he still has access to kamui raikiri, which 1 shots everyone bar juubito. Only reason he doesn't beat juubito is because juubito movement speed exceeds his reactions. Give him rikudou chakra and he can react, and even juubito will catch the business.

Edo Tensei regenerate, Kamui raikiri is pointless. Plus Gai with 7 gates is faster than Kakashi. He stops at 1.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Edo Tensei regenerate, Kamui raikiri is pointless. Plus Gai with 7 gates is faster than Kakashi. He stops at 1.

Landing any significant attack

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then kakshi simply sends the rest of the body to kamuiland.

 

[Oblivionx]

stops at 12. Even without rikudou chakra to do kamui shuriken, perfect susanoo and black raikiri, he still has access to kamui raikiri, which 1 shots everyone bar juubito. Only reason he doesn't beat juubito is because juubito movement speed exceeds his reactions. Give him rikudou chakra and he can react, and even juubito will catch the business.

But he was fast due to rikudo chakra. Without it, how can he one shot everyone with kamui raikiri? He is normal war arc kakashi with two sharingans.

 

[Animegoin]

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then kakshi simply sends the rest of the body to kamuiland.

Again, that’s assuming Kakashi can spam MS techs like that back to back, which he can’t. He has two sharingan that can’t be turned off. And still, he won’t make it past Gai.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

But he was fast due to rikudo chakra. Without it, how can he one shot everyone with kamui raikiri? He is normal war arc kakashi with two sharingans.

simply by going for the

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danzo is nowhere near as fast as ms sasuke as shown in their fight(and what's worse unlike sasuke he had no access to sharingan precognition) yet by going for trading blows he landed hits. Kakashi simply does the same here, via obito's kamui.

Again, that’s assuming Kakashi can spam MS techs like that back to back, which he can’t. He has two sharingan that can’t be turned off. And still, he won’t make it past Gai.

what is he spamming? All it takes is 2-3 uses of kamui. 1 for phasing and one for the long range snipe in the case of recovering edo tensei. His war arc limit was 5 iirc. In addition to the massive amounts of other jutsu he used that day. Sustaining another sharingan shouldnt be a problem given that he at that point in time fought nonstop for 2 days straight, and none of the fights here should be lasting anywhere near that long.

 

[Animegoin]

simply by going for the

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danzo is nowhere near as fast as ms sasuke as shown in their fight(and what's worse unlike sasuke he had no access to sharingan precognition) yet by going for trading blows he landed hits. Kakashi simply does the same here, via obito's kamui.


what is he spamming? All it takes is 2-3 uses of kamui. 1 for phasing and one for the long range snipe in the case of recovering edo tensei. His war arc limit was 5 iirc. In addition to the massive amounts of other jutsu he used that day. Sustaining another sharingan shouldnt be a problem given that he at that point in time fought nonstop for 2 days straight, and none of the fights here should be lasting anywhere near that long.

There’s some things that you’re forgetting; Obito himself, despite having both Hashirama’s cells and Uchiha Kekkei genkai, can only remain intangible for 5 minutes. For a non-Uchiha and someone with piss-poor chakra reserves, that number is significantly decreased and to add to that, his 3t sharingan is always on and draining chakra. Let’s not forget the strain on the eye that using intangibility would cause. Most hax techs have limitations- like Amaterasu and Koto. Now granted, Kakashi doesn’t have to keep the intangibility Kamui in effect constantly, he could decide to use it when he needs to but it will definitely cost huge amounts of chakra. Guy, the first opponent in the gauntlet, can literally run circles around Kakashi to where its impossible for him to Kamui sniped. Kakashi’s reactions also have to be fast enough to prevent himself being hit by all of Guy’s long range attacks.

 

[salamander uchiha]

There’s some things that you’re forgetting; Obito himself, despite having both Hashirama’s cells and Uchiha Kekkei genkai, can only remain intangible for 5 minutes. For a non-Uchiha and someone with piss-poor chakra reserves, that number is significantly decreased and to add to that, his 3t sharingan is always on and draining chakra. Let’s not forget the strain on the eye that using intangibility would cause. Most hax techs have limitations- like Amaterasu and Koto. Now granted, Kakashi doesn’t have to keep the intangibility Kamui in effect constantly, he could decide to use it when he needs to but it will definitely cost huge amounts of chakra. Guy, the first opponent in the gauntlet, can literally run circles around Kakashi to where its impossible for him to Kamui sniped. Kakashi’s reactions also have to be fast enough to prevent himself being hit by all of Guy’s long range attacks.

I agree but have to point out Hashi juice doesn't grant stronger abilities it grants faster recovery speed.

 

[Animegoin]

I agree but have to point out Hashi juice doesn't grant stronger abilities it grants faster recovery speed.

Yeah, ik. I brought up Hashi’s cells because they prevented Obito from going blind and they let him spam Kamui with no strain on the eye.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

There’s some things that you’re forgetting; Obito himself, despite having both Hashirama’s cells and Uchiha Kekkei genkai, can only remain intangible for 5 minutes. For a non-Uchiha and someone with piss-poor chakra reserves, that number is significantly decreased and to add to that, his 3t sharingan is always on and draining chakra. Let’s not forget the strain on the eye that using intangibility would cause. Most hax techs have limitations- like Amaterasu and Koto. Now granted, Kakashi doesn’t have to keep the intangibility Kamui in effect constantly, he could decide to use it when he needs to but it will definitely cost huge amounts of chakra. Guy, the first opponent in the gauntlet, can literally run circles around Kakashi to where its impossible for him to Kamui sniped. Kakashi’s reactions also have to be fast enough to prevent himself being hit by all of Guy’s long range attacks.

kakashi can mentally track seventh gate guy, fck are on about. he doesn't have to physically track him. and in the seventh gate his stamina is significantly shorter than that of kakashi's. simply using phasing prevents him from being hit since all of guys attacks last an extremely short amount of time. You're overselling how much obito's eye drains him, and as far as we've seen hashi dna doesn't boost ms techniques abilities. The only tech we've seen effected by hashiroids was izanagi with obito pushing it to 10 minutes, and danzo pushing it to 1 minute. Madara's ms techs remained exactly the same. Even if we were to cut how long kakashi can use it by a factor of 5, 1 minute at any given time is more than long enough for him to make light work of guy, and nearly all of the opponents on this list, and if you really want him to conserve his chakra he can close obito's eye for the opponents that don't need it. 7th gate guy is one such opponent.Ms kakashi doesn't need obito's eye to beat 7th gate guy, and the only time he considered himself inferior to guy what when guy used the 8th gate.


i will admit however that kakashi loses to the ftg duo and edo minato. It looks like nothing is restricted and kamui will always be slower than ftg.

 

[Animegoin]

kakashi can mentally track seventh gate guy, fck are on about. he doesn't have to physically track him. and in the seventh gate his stamina is significantly shorter than that of kakashi's. simply using phasing prevents him from being hit since all of guys attacks last an extremely short amount of time. You're overselling how much obito's eye drains him, and as far as we've seen hashi dna doesn't boost ms techniques abilities. The only tech we've seen effected by hashiroids was izanagi with obito pushing it to 10 minutes, and danzo pushing it to 1 minute. Madara's ms techs remained exactly the same. Even if we were to cut how long kakashi can use it by a factor of 5, 1 minute at any given time is more than long enough for him to make light work of guy, and nearly all of the opponents on this list, and if you really want him to conserve his chakra he can close obito's eye for the opponents that don't need it. 7th gate guy is one such opponent.Ms kakashi doesn't need obito's eye to beat 7th gate guy, and the only time he considered himself inferior to guy what when guy used the 8th gate.


i will admit however that kakashi loses to the ftg duo and edo minato. It looks like nothing is restricted and kamui will always be slower than ftg.

Dude, what the **** are you on about? Again, you’re sitting here assuming that Kakashi is going to be able to intangibility time after time whenever he needs to. He isn’t an Uchiha and even Sasuke had a hard time using Amaterasu back to back. And if you were smart, you’d know that I’d brought up Hashirama’s cells because they alleviated the painful strain on the eye for using the MS. So not only will Kakashi’s eyes be fucking assaulted by pain every time he attempts to go intangible, he opens himself up while succumbing to the painful spasm. Also read the title, Kakashi has BOTH of Obito’s sharingan, so even if he shuts one eye, the other will still be draining chakra. The sharingan is permanently activated because both of his eyes are Obito’s, I don’t know how that went over your head. And save the fanfic in regards to Madara’s MS tech, he only had one technique which was Susano’o. Aside from that, even Madara admitted that he saw his opponents movements better because of Hashirama’s cells. And you’re daft if think Kakashi doesn’t need the sharingan to beat Guy.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Dude, what the **** are you on about? Again, you’re sitting here assuming that Kakashi is going to be able to intangibility time after time whenever he needs to. He isn’t an Uchiha and even Sasuke had a hard time using Amaterasu back to back. And if you were smart, you’d know that I’d brought up Hashirama’s cells because they alleviated the painful strain on the eye for using the MS. So not only will Kakashi’s eyes be fucking assaulted by pain every time he attempts to go intangible, he opens himself up while succumbing to the painful spasm. Also read the title, Kakashi has BOTH of Obito’s sharingan, so even if he shuts one eye, the other will still be draining chakra. The sharingan is permanently activated because both of his eyes are Obito’s, I don’t know how that went over your head. And save the fanfic in regards to Madara’s MS tech, he only had one technique which was Susano’o. Aside from that, even Madara admitted that he saw his opponents movements better because of Hashirama’s cells. And you’re daft if think Kakashi doesn’t need the sharingan to beat Guy.

Damn bro, nice solo.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Dude, what the **** are you on about? Again, you’re sitting here assuming that Kakashi is going to be able to intangibility time after time whenever he needs to.

I already said he has 5 uses. That was his limit during the war.

He isn’t an Uchiha and even Sasuke had a hard time using Amaterasu back to back.

kakashi aready used kamui

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without problems so please stop creating false equivalencies.

And if you were smart, you’d know that I’d brought up Hashirama’s cells because they alleviated the painful strain on the eye for using the MS. So not only will Kakashi’s eyes be fucking assaulted by pain every time he attempts to go intangible, he opens himself up while succumbing to the painful spasm.

Please give an example of hashirama dna/cells ever doing that. Ill wait. All it ever did was shorten ka's recovery time and lengthened izanami time. It has never alleviated pain.

Also read the title, Kakashi has BOTH of Obito’s sharingan, so even if he shuts one eye, the other will still be draining chakra. The sharingan is permanently activated because both of his eyes are Obito’s, I don’t know how that went over your head.

And with 1 eye activated the entire time kakashi fought nonstop for 2 days straight in the 4th ninja war -_- Even in early part 1 he fought naruto and sakura with his eye active from noon to night roughly 12 hours. So again stop underestimating kakashi's war reserves. Even if we cut his time down to 1/ 8th of what it was in the war due to having both eyes that's still 6 hours of nonstop combat. And that's me being insanely generous. cutting down the phase limit from 5 mins to 1 minute is again me being generous, still more than enough time and chakra for a kamui raikiri, with only edo tensei requiring the follow up trip to kamuiland. Or better yet kakashi simply pulls and obito and grabs them during cqc.

And save the fanfic in regards to Madara’s MS tech, he only had one technique which was Susano’o. Aside from that, even Madara admitted that he saw his opponents movements better because of Hashirama’s cells. And you’re daft if think Kakashi doesn’t need the sharingan to beat Guy.

imma need a scan of the bold. And it's not fanfic cuz u and i both know hashi cells didn't do jack shit for his ms techs power or usability.

 

[Animegoin]

I already said he has 5 uses. That was his limit during the war.


kakashi aready used kamui

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Please give an example of hashirama dna/cells ever doing that. Ill wait. All it ever did was shorten ka's recovery time and lengthened izanami time. It has never alleviated pain.



And with 1 eye activated the entire time kakashi fought nonstop for 2 days straight in the 4th ninja war -_- Even in early part 1 he fought naruto and sakura with his eye active from noon to night roughly 12 hours. So again stop underestimating kakashi's war reserves. Even if we cut his time down to 1/ 8th of what it was in the war due to having both eyes that's still 6 hours of nonstop combat. And that's me being insanely generous. cutting down the phase limit from 5 mins to 1 minute is again me being generous, still more than enough time and chakra for a kamui raikiri, with only edo tensei requiring the follow up trip to kamuiland. Or better yet kakashi simply pulls and obito and grabs them during cqc.

imma need a scan of the bold. And it's not fanfic cuz u and i both know hashi cells didn't do jack shit for his ms techs power or usability.

-You’re illiterate, I clearly specified “intangibility,” And with the sharingan always active and in both eyes, it’s less than that.

-Again, that isn’t the intangibility variant of Kamui. Lmfao learn how to read please.

-The proof is Obito himself who never suffered eye pain and never went blind. :sdo:

-“Fought non-stop for 2 day’s straight without taking breaks.” Lmfao yeah, he fought against opponents he didn’t need to use the MS against but from what you said earlier, you’re pretty deluded already considering that you believe that Kakashi doesn’t need the sharingan to defeat Guy. Btw pretty sure I remember Kakashi being saved by Naruto and sitting idle. I also remember Kakashi hiding in the pocket dimension until his chakra refilled. I also remember Naruto refilling everyone’s chakra several times throughout that war and Kakashi closing his sharingan eye multiple times but hey, if you’re saying that Kakashi can fight with his eyes closed then lol. Anyway using part 1 feats of Kakashi against Genin is absolutely asinine, especially since...like I said, Kakashi needs to use his MS to stand a chance against Guy. You cutting down the phase time to 1 minute is actually being ludicrous because realistically it should be less than that but I’ll play ball. Again, factoring in the pain that using the intangibility will cause on the eye, Kakashi will have to time it perfectly. 7th gate Guy’s reaction time is impeccable, the only time Kakashi would be able to even try to grab him while in the midst of intangibility, he’s prone to have a pain spasm in the eye that could end the effect of Kamui. Literally, Guy outlasts Kakashi.

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