[VS] DSM Kabuto vs FTG duo

[Joker]

@Bold, show me where that happened please.

False, spamming it is not bad on his part, and especially with his experience. He can perfectly utilize FTG to its utmost level via shadow clones.. and since when did Kabuto get bone forest? Giving him shit he doesn't have?

Tobirama has shown 4 water jutsus.. The 2/3 in the first fight.... and then 1 in the current war arc.. The ones from the first Edo fight are logicall powered up ..... Again this is not hype.. this is what he has.

OH so he has his cells and he automatically has it? what? Nowhere in the manga is anything like that stated. Yamata no Orochi was orochimaru himself..


And its funny that you are making him out to be more than he his.... yet trying to claim you aren't making up baseless assumptions.. And also, which baseless assumption did i make?


Having great genjutsu usage =/= being able to deal with it....

Tobirama was raised with a known powerful genjutsu user of his time... He knows how to deal with genjutsu.. hes had more experience fighitng genjutsu than Itachi... no clue why you even bothered mentioning Itachi here.


@Bold, stating what you stated is equal to stating you had no counter..

False, i stated high speed kunai stabs can kill him.... unless you are showing his liquification is faster than Obito's defense. And furthermore.. stab on the heart..

I'm on my phone, direct yourself to the Kage revival section.

Your density is unrivaled.

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Granted it's not bone forest, it's basically the same with fewer bones.

Lmao, are you genuinely this stupid? It was shown that by infusing their blood into his veins, he gained all their abilities. What the **** do you mean? He's used HSH, OR, Sakon and Ukon's KKG, Tayuya's sound techniques, and you're saying he can't use Yamata no Orochi? What? Back your statement up.

So, how exactly are these water techniques a factor?

 

[KingHashirama]

I'll just fill in for Europa.

And Tobirama has shown no signs of being able to deal with a Genjutsu of that caliber. Also, being incredible in Genjutsu means knowing a great deal about Genjutsu, including how to deal with it :| That's simple common sense.
A "known" powerful Genjutsu user with no feats. You even made a thread criticizing people who put fearless characters over characters who have feats, so don't even bother with that shit.

That sloppy argument is not deserving of a counter.

Stab him in the heart...
You don't know this, but when a user dies, Oral Rebirth automatically activates. Therefore, no, a simple ****ing stab won't stop Kabuto :|

"Genjutsu of the caliber".. of what caliber? .....

Its funny that Itachi's only specialized in Eye genjutsus... thats it. If you wanna talk about a genjutsu specialist.. then you are talking about kurenai.. who has STUDIED the art of genjutsu. So being "incredbile" in genjutsu =/= knowing how to counter it.. Kind of common sense.

Understand that when i say feats i don't refer to "on screen feats".. I refer to the acomplishments made by the characters as to what a "Feat" is.. You know the actual meaning of a feat. Toka was powerful enough in genjutsu to get her name spread throughout the WORLD.. so please already stop.. Again Tobirama has more experience than Itachi..... So don't bring up Itachi.... unless you really like fapping on Kabuto or something.. idk.


Because you actually can't counter it without going against the manga itself....


False, Oral rebirth requires time.. if it was a "slow" hit.. then yes oral rebirth would be worth mentioning... but other than that no.

Stop trying to make Kabuto into some invincible god.... hes not.

I'm on my phone, direct yourself to the Kage revival section.

Your density is unrivaled.

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Granted it's not bone forest, it's basically the same with fewer bones.

Lmao, are you genuinely this stupid? It was shown that by infusing their blood into his veins, he gained all their abilities. What the **** do you mean? He's used HSH, OR, Sakon and Ukon's KKG, Tayuya's sound techniques, and you're saying he can't use Yamata no Orochi? What? Back your statement up.

So, how exactly are these water techniques a factor?

So you don't remember where it happened.

"my density".. or is it that i simply didn't know about the scan?

And no its not the same.. rofl. Its like claiming Yamato's mokuton is the same as Hashirama's.... uh no.

You are saying he can use it.. without providing a MANGA SCAN ... rofl. Yamato can't use Jukai koton... HAVING CELLS MEANS HARDLY ANYTHING....

Rofl... dude why are you not giving me scans.. yet trying to claim yourself as some sort of a superior intellectual person who is going by the manga.. Rofl, why you getting mad ?? All did was ask you for manga proof that he can use all their abilities. That all i asked... Otherwise its a baseless assumption.. something you claimed i was doing.

 

[Unorthodox]

"Genjutsu of the caliber".. of what caliber? .....

Its funny that Itachi's only specialized in Eye genjutsus... thats it. If you wanna talk about a genjutsu specialist.. then you are talking about kurenai.. who has STUDIED the art of genjutsu. So being "incredbile" in genjutsu =/= knowing how to counter it.. Kind of common sense.

Understand that when i say feats i don't refer to "on screen feats".. I refer to the acomplishments made by the characters as to what a "Feat" is.. You know the actual meaning of a feat. Toka was powerful enough in genjutsu to get her name spread throughout the WORLD.. so please already stop.. Again Tobirama has more experience than Itachi..... So don't bring up Itachi.... unless you really like fapping on Kabuto or something.. idk.


Because you actually can't counter it without going against the manga itself....


False, Oral rebirth requires time.. if it was a "slow" hit.. then yes oral rebirth would be worth mentioning... but other than that no.

Stop trying to make Kabuto into some invincible god.... hes not.

Sasuke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hashirama

OT - Kabuto possibly lose since you restricted manda 2 and didnt restrict summonings for Minato im 50/50 with this

 

[Demonic.]

KG >>>>>>>>> Almighty Unorthodox Lol

Ot---Minato and Tobirama high diff. That fodder Europa needs to slap himself

 

[KingHashirama]

This doesn't surprise too much. Since some of these people were the same ones saying DMS Kabuto has a chance against Hashirama and EMS Madara. Lol.

I amm out.

Sasuke >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hashirama

OT - Kabuto possibly lose since you restricted manda 2 and didnt restrict summonings for Minato im 50/50 with this

@Bold, tell me something that we don't know.

 

[HiddenSound]

"Genjutsu of the caliber".. of what caliber? .....

Its funny that Itachi's only specialized in Eye genjutsus... thats it. If you wanna talk about a genjutsu specialist.. then you are talking about kurenai.. who has STUDIED the art of genjutsu. So being "incredbile" in genjutsu =/= knowing how to counter it.. Kind of common sense.

Understand that when i say feats i don't refer to "on screen feats".. I refer to the acomplishments made by the characters as to what a "Feat" is.. You know the actual meaning of a feat. Toka was powerful enough in genjutsu to get her name spread throughout the WORLD.. so please already stop.. Again Tobirama has more experience than Itachi..... So don't bring up Itachi.... unless you really like fapping on Kabuto or something.. idk.


Because you actually can't counter it without going against the manga itself....


False, Oral rebirth requires time.. if it was a "slow" hit.. then yes oral rebirth would be worth mentioning... but other than that no.

Stop trying to make Kabuto into some invincible god.... hes not.



So you don't remember where it happened.

"my density".. or is it that i simply didn't know about the scan?

And no its not the same.. rofl. Its like claiming Yamato's mokuton is the same as Hashirama's.... uh no.

You are saying he can use it.. without providing a MANGA SCAN ... rofl. Yamato can't use Jukai koton... HAVING CELLS MEANS HARDLY ANYTHING....

Rofl... dude why are you not giving me scans.. yet trying to claim yourself as some sort of a superior intellectual person who is going by the manga.. Rofl, why you getting mad ?? All did was ask you for manga proof that he can use all their abilities. That all i asked... Otherwise its a baseless assumption.. something you claimed i was doing.

Senjutsu enhanced Mugen Onsa, didn't think you'd be confused.

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Only eye Genjutsu huh. I don't care about Kurenai and her single shown Genjutsu. To say Itachi, the best Genjutsu user in the manga, doesn't know how to deal with Genjutsu is ridiculous and desperate.

I also don't care about your excuses.

Yeah, that's it. "Tobirama has experience fighting people who are nothing like Kabuto so he can make strategies" Great counter dumbass.

@bold, what?? That doesn't even make any sense. So actually I guess it's just like the rest of the bile that oozes out of your mouth. I never even implied Kabuto was invincible, you're just slow.

This doesn't surprise too much. Since some of these people were the same ones saying DMS Kabuto has a chance against Hashirama and EMS Madara. Lol.

I amm out.





@Bold, tell me something that we don't know.

Because that would make them fanboys am I right

 

[KingHashirama]

yea bro, No one can harm and touch Kabuto. Kabuto solos both.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Initially I would have said Kabuto, but now that I think about it, I don't see how he wins, especially given all the restrictions. Two guys constantly blitzing at instantaneous speeds all over the place and being able to mark each other alone will give Kabuto problems. All that needs to happen is marking Kabuto which one of them should be able to do with a distraction from the other and then the match is over. The only person to react to FTG at all was Madara in his Jinchuriki state (and against Tobirama utilizing Hashirama's Sage Mode) and he didn't even actually react to FTG itself, only the attack that followed.

How do they finish him off though?

I was thinking BFR (but thats restricted) and Tobirama's Edo explosion (which is also restricted).

The duo win, only Kabuto's Genjutsu will be troubling, but it can be cleared out. Since sound-waves need medium to travel, by destroying the cave via summoning a toad to clear it up. Opened on air without medium source, the Genjutsu becomes useless. That being established, the duo should beat everything else Kabuto has to offer with their FTG combination and teamwork.

How are they going to destroy the cave when Muki Tensei can change and alter the size of it, which can either make Bunta fit, or enough for Bunta to be compressed and not be able to perform anything useful.

@Underline What is with you with that claim?

 

[HiddenSound]

yea bro, No one can harm and touch Kabuto. Kabuto solos both.

Skewing my argument to such a degree is unbecoming. Once again, I never said Kabuto is invincible and invulnerable. You're just incredibly biased to the point where "debating" with you is pretty much a joke.

 

[Apêx1]

Doesn't take a brain to realise he's trolling... :| If you have personal disputes with him, do it in vm or pm, seeing how your entire argument wasn't factoring the stipulations in the initial post.

 

[HiddenSound]

Doesn't take a brain to realise he's trolling... :| If you have personal disputes with him, do it in vm or pm, seeing how your entire argument wasn't factoring the stipulations in the initial post.

I wish he was.
The thread was derailed and I had a hand in that. Sorry.

 

[ARGUS]

1. Show me where Susanoo tried to break the cave, as in where they directly tried to break the cave.. or tried to get out of it.

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2. Can manda 2 fit in the cave? Furthermore... Ftg can troll the large snake....

Lol how is FTG trolling the large snake when Kabuto can just close the distance and immobilise him through mugen onsa and white rage
and the snake was clearly stated just in general, not that it matters since without edos, tobirama stands no chance whatsoever to even hurt kabuto let alone beat him

3. There is nothing Kabuto has that Tobirama can't react to....

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again are you serious,
how many times do i have to tell you, tobirama just gets restrained by sound genjutsu and WR
he is not countering it, nor is he evading it, especially in an enclosed location such as the cave,
doesnt matter if tobirama can react to his attacks, he still cant even hurt kabuto, so how on earth is he beating him?

Unless Kabuto gets skills on the level of EMS Madara or Hashirama.. not talking about power.. but talking about fighting skills... If he can't, then hes not touching or matching Tobirama.

Irrelevant,
madara and hashiramas moveset is completely different from tobirama, i dont even see why u brought this up

 

[Haizaki]

Suidanha cuts Kabuto in half.

Sound Genjutsu is useless as long as you have clones. They'll be unaffected by it(since Genjutsu was already ineffective against them) and effectively break their original out of it.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Evans; what is being cut in half going to do to a superior Orochimaru? When a dying one casually scoffed as bisection.

 

[Joker]

Evans; what is being cut in half going to do to a superior Orochimaru? When a dying one casually scoffed as bisection.

They don't think.

 

[Haizaki]

Evans; what is being cut in half going to do to a superior Orochimaru? When a dying one casually scoffed as bisection.

Lol forgot 4T Naruto cut him in half. Though if Tobirama times his attack and cuts the snakes as well

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, I don't think he'll be coming back together

 

[Joker]

Lol forgot 4T Naruto cut him in half. Though if Tobirama times his attack and cuts the snakes as well

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, I don't think he'll be coming back together

The snakes regenerate, just like they do with his true form,

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

That oral rebirth though.

 

[Haizaki]

The snakes regenerate, just like they do with his true form,

Sorry Lol. I'm not an expert when it comes to Oro's ability haha, can you show me a scan implying what you mean with the bold?

 

[Haizaki]

That oral rebirth though.

Oh yeah...Don't think Oro's snakes can pull that off.