DSM Kabuto vs. EMS Madara

[DemonicAvenger]

The drawing looks inconsistent in that scan. [

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] Hachibi is the size of Juubi's finger. PS would at least be around V1 Juubi's size.

I would like to note that the form you two are debating is the incomplete Juubi. It would probably be much more massive if it had the Kyuubi and Hachbi dwelling within it (Madara was a spec when he summoned the Psuedo-Complete Juubi a few chapters back even when only compared to a small portion of its head).

There's also the fact that form of the Juubi isn't mature either, it gets even bigger when it evolves. The change in attack strength is to note as well, going from its Bijudama being blocked by Naruto's BM avatar to leveling multiple continents.

I don't see what would be so blasphemis about Full Kurama the same size or even bigger than that half baked form of the Juubi.​

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[Brother Numpsay]

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Doesn't mean that this was the case.

Because your interpretation is 100% right? Interesting.

Snakes are being used an example yet he states "MY" lol. Keep on denying the manga pal.

MY means nothing as Kabuto states his ability, and he is in fact correct. Just like how he states his Edo is part of his power. He doesn't have to state, the Snakes can do xyz or can make Nagato do xyz[

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Read above.

Ok

No claims were mixed up here.

Right.

Irrelevant. Those same snakes came together so Kabuto could reform. [

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Why do they need to reform when 3 more snakes are still separated

After Kabuto exits the snake, you can see that the snakes are gone, and you can even see one attached to him. [

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So Hidden Snakes tends to disappear randomly in the manga. Yup look at Sasuke fight with Deidara, Orochimaru fights, and Anko.

The snakes became liquid, and what was it that they saw? Oh yeah, KABUTO'S chakra. [

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Itachi: I can't find out which one is the real one.

Your interpretation: All of it is Kabuto.

Sasuke stated he was sloughing off HIS skin. [

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He also stated he is hiding his body. In your case its all of the Snakes thats part of his body.

I'm not going to debate fact with you. Sorry pal. Reply to this point when you have real proof and not BS assumptions.

Yea lets rethink about that.

Whatever. Doesn't change the fact you literally have no back up.

Lol right everything I am stating aren't "backed up". While you are going going by one interpreting on Kabuto

It doesn't need to be a 360 effect to hit snakes that are charging at him. In case you don't know what 360 degrees is, its a full fircle.

Oh thank for letting me know. As Kabuto's snakes will be coming underground, left and right.

I'm wanking yet you think Kabuto can defeat Madara? lmao, FOH.

Very interesting that you say this with confidence, when all the wank/your case is only coming from PS. If you think Kabuto stands no chance against Madara, I would like you to make a case of no restrictions. Of course you can't. In fact how about you make a case with no PS. Exactly, Madara gets utterly whoop. In fact how about an unstabilized PS.

And your laughing for me believing Kabuto can't beat Madara? Nice.

The blade wasn't aimed to hit Hashirama, it didn't even tear up the ground like it did

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, and Hashirama was still inside Mokuton Hobi. Btw, he has

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Ok. So does that mean if Madara were to do that, it would of been over for Hashirama? Hmm.

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ol, read the manga again pal. There was a whole 2-3 pages in between Orochimaru getting sealed yet there were no signs of regeneration. No one is interested in your Kabuto wankposts. Eight Branches having Regen is fanfiction.

Yea 2-3 pages. And how much did it take for the poison to take effect Sasuke when it happen to him.

PS fanfiction lol? I didn't know Databook was fanfiction

This is just a classic case of "Let me resort to fanfiction since I can't prove that my boy doesn't get stomped with feats" Lmao.

Try showing me scans of Manda II using this ability, or a statement that implies he can do so and then I will submit, until then, all you are doing is arguing fanfiction as usual....you should be called the fanfiction debater.[/QUOTE]

PS cute insult. Ill get back to your statement.

At the end of the day we are going to go in circles in interpretation which is my premise of the whole Manda II thing.

So here it is:

Your interpretation: Kabuto developed a new jutsu to split his body into portions.

My interpretation: What Kabuto is doing is nothing new in the manga. Since Part 1 series, people with Snake contract are able to do what Kabuto is doing via Hidden Snakes. Characters example: Anko, Sasuke, and Orochimaru

I wonder which one of our interpretation is a fan fic one.

 

[KidGamer65]

MY means nothing as Kabuto states his ability, and he is in fact correct. Just like how he states his Edo is part of his power. He doesn't have to state, the Snakes can do xyz or can make Nagato do xyz[

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Completely different instances. Kabuto stating that HIS flesh is the one being sloughed off isn't equal to him stating Edo is his power. There isn't even any relation, just you grasping at straws cause you have no real argument.

Why do they need to reform when 3 more snakes are still separated

That's what the manga showed, not me.

So Hidden Snakes tends to disappear randomly in the manga. Yup look at Sasuke fight with Deidara, Orochimaru fights, and Anko.

They never leave the user's body, they simply retract. These go beyond hidden snakes. Hidden Snakes are ALWAYS still protruding from the user.

Itachi: I can't find out which one is the real one.

Your interpretation: All of it is Kabuto.

They were fighting Kabuto, they were looking for Kabuto (So they could beat him), so that was Kabuto he was referring to when he said I can't find out which one is the real one.

You can twist words around and deny manga panels, but it doesn't make your argument any less shitty.


He also stated he is hiding his body. In your case its all of the Snakes thats part of his body.

Lol right everything I am stating aren't "backed up". While you are going going by one interpreting on Kabuto

I'm going off what was stated.

Oh thank for letting me know. As Kabuto's snakes will be coming underground, left and right.

Then he swings his blades the moment they appear and they all die.

Very interesting that you say this with confidence, when all the wank/your case is only coming from PS. If you think Kabuto stands no chance against Madara, I would like you to make a case of no restrictions. Of course you can't. In fact how about you make a case with no PS. Exactly, Madara gets utterly whoop. In fact how about an unstabilized PS.

Irrelevant to the point as this is Madara with PS vs Kabuto and I never said he'd win without it.

Ok. So does that mean if Madara were to do that, it would of been over for Hashirama? Hmm.

Irrelevant question.

Yea 2-3 pages. And how much did it take for the poison to take effect Sasuke when it happen to him.

Also irrelevant as poison isn't regeneration nor is it the same instance.

PS fanfiction lol? I didn't know Databook was fanfiction

Get me scans of it regenerating. Cause I have scans that show it not regenerating.

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Where's the regeneration? Huh? Oh wait, it doesn't exist. You made it up, as usual.

Your interpretation: Kabuto developed a new jutsu to split his body into portions.

That is what was shown.

My interpretation: What Kabuto is doing is nothing new in the manga. Since Part 1 series, people with Snake contract are able to do what Kabuto is doing via Hidden Snakes. Characters example: Anko, Sasuke, and Orochimaru

You have no proof or evidence of this. The existence of the jutsu isn't evidence pal.

I wonder which one of our interpretation is a fan fic one.

Obviously the guy who has no scans backing him up, which is you in this case...or should I say every case that involves Kabuto. Lol

 

[Brother Numpsay]

KG65, concerning Orochimaru's white snakes ability. I am not interested if you need feats to something Kishimoto didn't put time to developed in the manga. This is why Kishimoto's alternation, Databook was made. Kishimoto explains in his databook that Orochimaru's strongest form carries the attribute as his true form. Thats all we need to know and what Kishimoto wanted to portray (P.S. regeneration ability does not have the same speed recovery as every character who can regenerate). Nor am I interested in your view of things "Feats does not=Evidence. If its not a feat shown in scans then its not evidence".

Now the discussion in general:

Now you already stated you are only going by your personal interpretation with no evidence to back up the ability of Kabuto. Your interpretation from here hold no water with evidence to claim it is true.

Now lets look at the beginning of the fight.[

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]. Already your interpretation is flawed. Kabuto hides his face and had the snakes look at the brothers instead. In your case if the snakes are the same being as Kabuto, Genjutsu will still work on him. Then[

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]. Sasuke tells Itachi to watch out for those snakes. The context switches from Kabuto preventing getting hit from jutsu to Sasuke telling Itachi about the snakes, Kabuto is using to counter. Kabuto has no such feats to sense things through temperature and also sense of smell passing through his mouth, which Sasuke explains that the snakes can do. Sasuke questions the Snakes being bigger, something unoriginal to his knowledge. Then[

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Last point. When Kabuto was talking, no lip movement was involved from the snake[

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They were fighting Kabuto, they were looking for Kabuto (So they could beat him), so that was Kabuto he was referring to when he said I can't find out which one is the real one.

You can twist words around and deny manga panels, but it doesn't make your argument any less shitty.

Thats contradicting statement how they looking for Kabuto when they are holding Kabuto.

They never leave the user's body, they simply retract. These go beyond hidden snakes. Hidden Snakes are ALWAYS still protruding from the user.

ALWAYS is a wrong statement, which I will get back up once again. The purpose of Hidden snakes comes in various purposes. Mainly Biting[

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Back to ALWAYS STAY and NEVER LEAVE. That is incorrect[

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