(DrProof) Shiki Fūjin>Susano'o?

[The Necromancer]

They would still be able to use Susano'o possibly. However their chakra reserves wouldn't be restored due to their portion of chakra being sealed within Shiki Fūjin.

That is what my reply was to Q Of The Sharingan. I believe we have the same thought process on this situation.

Also take into account orochimaru's curse marks, which i could debate as a fuinjutsu. Kabuto was able to extract the chakra used to create it out of the seal on anko's neck and add it to his own, but i have a hard time believing that orochimaru lost the chakra he created the marks with permanently, as he would need monstrous reserves seeing as how he gave 10 children curse marks, along with kimimaro, sakon, ukon, tayuya, kidomaru, jirobi, and sasuke.

 

[DrProof]

Also, the sealing of Kurama's Yin chakra is different than the situation that you have mentioned. Tailed beasts are monsters made of pure chakra. The sealing of the yin chakra is comparable to a human losing half of their bone mass. They won't grow back. Sealing of a person's chakra in your scenario is like a person losing blood (although not as extreme). If a person losses blood, it can replenish. So can chakra lost in variety of ways. Your scenario would mean the Bee and Gyuki would have less chakra due to it being stolen by Kisame and Nagato. That isn't what happened.

Susano'o from what I recall is Pure chakra, just as a Bijuu is. As Susano'o is nothing, BUT chakra like a Bijuu is. What I think you're confused about is Sealing, and Absorbing. Absorbing like Kisame, and Nagato perform just take the users chakra. The chakra can still be replenished correct (due to it lingering in the atmosphere still), where as sealed chakra never returns as it is in the belly of The Death Reaper. The users chakra reserves are cut for the portion of chakra they've applied to construct Susano'o.

 

[DrProof]

Thus far Shiki Fūjin has already shown to have some

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on what can be sealed. It depends however, on what plane the jutsu itself actually works. Yata Mirror guards against ethereal and astral attacks, as well as physical attacks meaning that if Shiki Fūjin works on any of those planes it would most likely be deflected.

This is only for Yata. Susano'o itself takes on a physical state from being ethereal as the user guards against incoming attacks, meaning that its existing in the physical plane as a shield and is prone to being sealed as any other physical entity. Susano'o is purely Inton which the user is able to replenish at will. We take amaterasu which Jiraiya sealed, though it had no effect on Itachi's Amaterasu supply. Safe to conclude that even if it is sealed, it can be replenished as Inton itself isn't the users actual chakra.

Amaterasu is a non connected ability. Where as Susano'o is a connect ability. Due to Amaterasu being away from the user (not connected) it would not cut the users chakra reserves for the portion absorbed due to it not being constantly sustained by the users chakra.

 

[hixa kuogame]

the theory is legit but the susanoo is comparable to a bijuu right?(madaras is the one im referring to)
so when minato tried to use rds to seal the ninetails only a portion was seal within the shiki fujin and the other remained existing if hiruzen tried to seal susanoo it would have the same affect wouldnt it

so the end result would be a dead hiruzen and a half powered madara susanoo

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Shiki Fuujin wouldn't work on a pure-blooded Uzumaki though.... Because....... Gingers have no souls

 

[Waltz]

Amaterasu is a non connected ability. Where as Susano'o is a connect ability. Due to Amaterasu being away from the user (not connected) it would not cut the users chakra reserves for the portion absorbed due to it not being constantly sustained by the users chakra.

Susano'o isn't necessarily a connected ability to the actual user as the chakra itself surrounding the user can be solidified or remain ethereal and has been seen

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. Both techniques are sustained by the user and originate from the same source being Inton. There is no difference is flaming amaterasu long-range and sasuke shooting one of his susano'o arrows and what ever becomes of the attack has no detrimental effect to the users supply as it is limitless. What determines the actually supply/ number of consecutive attacks possible/ duration the jutsu can be maintained is the users actual chakra pool.

 

[Wukong]

Well it would seem plausible, but using the jutsu would serve no purpose if its molded from the users chakra couldn't he just re-stabilize Susanoo? But I believe he could.

 

[Erin]

No, it won't work. The kyuubi is chakra and so is the susanoo so yes they both can be sealed, but it does no eat the reserves of chakra.
Firstly taking half of the kyuubi is like taking half of a single susanoo manafestation, the kyuubi is a manafestation of chakra with no source so it can be split perminantly this way. Just because it requires the user to sustain it with his/her own chakra doesn't mean that it effects the well of chakra, for example, when karuma is adding chakra to a tailed beast bomb, for the ball to enlarge it requires for a shot time, a steady flow of chakra, the source being karuma, this is no different from susanoo, susanoo is just taking a form while the tbb is condensed. The susanoo in no way is actually attached the chakra well, simply requires a steady ammount of chakra to sustain it.

 

[AirWind]

Its still no use sealing the techs if the user still roams free and could mold the same chakra and produce another Susano'o.

 

[Bogard]

No, it won't work. The kyuubi is chakra and so is the susanoo so yes they both can be sealed, but it does no eat the reserves of chakra.
Firstly taking half of the kyuubi is like taking half of a single susanoo manafestation, the kyuubi is a manafestation of chakra with no source so it can be split perminantly this way. Just because it requires the user to sustain it with his/her own chakra doesn't mean that it effects the well of chakra, for example, when karuma is adding chakra to a tailed beast bomb, for the ball to enlarge it requires for a shot time, a steady flow of chakra, the source being karuma, this is no different from susanoo, susanoo is just taking a form while the tbb is condensed. The susanoo in no way is actually attached the chakra well, simply requires a steady ammount of chakra to sustain it.

Since when the materialized chakra from Susanoo is even close to half Kyubi's chakra in terms of quantity?

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Smh

Susanoo is fueled by life force its only made out of chakra

Chakra can be replenished over time

Rds may be able to bypass susanoo's solid exterior but the user is mobile within susanoo

 

[thegame]

Uhm, no.

Surely Shiki fuijin can go through Susanoo, however, everytime it was used, the opponent was held down, so that it was possible to extract the soul. Kushina held Kurama, Hiru held the kages and Oro.

Holding Susanoo down, well you need something huge and tanky for that.

And btw, there is no thing as shiki fuijin > random jutsu... It takes down the user as well. So it's more like equal to... Just saying, lol..

 

[cptenn94]

Hypothesis

This won't be very long, and it's just an idea I have concluded so right me if I'm wrong please. Shiki Fūjin is able to deconstruct Susano'o due to it's ability to seal inanimate, and animate objects correct? So here me out on this, due to Susano'o being made up of a portion of the users chakra, and molded/stabilized if Shiki Fūjin came into contact with the said technique wouldn't the following happen:

• Shiki Fūjin makes contact with Susano'o, the users chakra put into Susano'o is sealed within the Death Reaper.
• The user of Susano'o can never recover that portion of chakra again (unless they use the reverse Shiki Fūjin tactic), thus their chakra reserves are cut drastically.

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This is plausible correct?​

The only way this would work well, would be if the shiki drained all the victims chakra , which would kill the victim. But shiki is better than susanoo, as the arm could go straight through the sussanoo and rip out the victims soul.(similar to how minato sealed the kyuubi)

and so far, a a non impaled shiki user can rip out a soul pretty easily (see hiruzen clones, and minato removing yin) So unless the user is impaled the shiki user can rip out the victims soul fully. If impaled then it would depend on the user.

So essentially user<shiki> sussanoo wielding victim.

Shiki would only make the fight a stale mate as both would die.


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I apologgize for my poor sentences and grammer, but I am about to get to bed, and i could care less.

Have a great night/morning.

 

[The Western Wheel]

The stabilized version Madara has? Then yes... otherwise I don't think so... And I have a feeling that if the stabilized version is shattered, some chakra connections are as well.. and I believe this to happen in the final battle Sasuke vs Naruto...

 

[Edo Odin]

Sorry Proof but you're washed up! Derp Obito, Mangekyo Muslim and Kages already beat you in making theories so stop trying to make a comeback, thank you

Oh God, reading that was hilarious.

 

[shelke]

This makes absolutely no sense. Despite Susano'o manifestation as a Chakra shroud, it's still a doujustu and completely depends upon the Gemini MS and EMS ocular parent Doujutsus; Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. Every time the chakra is lost for these techniques, it's replenished. Same is the case with Susano'o. Sasuke's development from ribs form to later upgrades showed him struggling to maintain it as MS leeched on his chakra and later when he was perfectly rejuvenated, he could bring it out again.

If Mintao used Shiki Fujin on Kurama, then the Sage basically created them through amalgamating the basic principles of form and life. As the tailed beasts carry this chakra harmony, it cab be tinkered with although I still don't understand how it was able to maintain form after one part of its energy was completely taken.

Here the eyes are the source and the technique itself draws charka from the user. How can you seal the technique then?

 

[Penguin]

It is definatly plausable.

 

[Unorthodox]

This makes absolutely no sense. Despite Susano'o manifestation as a Chakra shroud, it's still a doujustu and completely depends upon the Gemini MS and EMS ocular parent Doujutsus; Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. Every time the chakra is lost for these techniques, it's replenished. Same is the case with Susano'o. Sasuke's development from ribs form to later upgrades showed him struggling to maintain it as MS leeched on his chakra and later when he was perfectly rejuvenated, he could bring it out again.

If Mintao used Shiki Fujin on Kurama, then the Sage basically created them through amalgamating the basic principles of form and life. As the tailed beasts carry this chakra harmony, it cab be tinkered with although I still don't understand how it was able to maintain form after one part of its energy was completely taken.

Here the eyes are the source and the technique itself draws charka from the user. How can you seal the technique then?

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terrible always trying to find a way to counters the uchihas tech couldnt expect less from a hater rds can seal susanoo as much as its wants it wont seal the users chakra to create susanoo theory very flawed