[Discussion] (DrProof) Kakuzu's Strength>Susano'o Ribcage

[Fecal Matter]

And what do your pictures prove exactly...?

Heres raikage effortlessly taking out susanoo's ribcage

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If he can do it, so can kakuzu

Some people say he hit him through the gaps of the ribcage. the flames get in the way so i won't really know 100%

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

And what do your pictures prove exactly...?

Heres raikage effortlessly taking out susanoo's ribcage

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If he can do it, so can kakuzu

Comparing Ribcage to a tailed beast. The fact is he could not overpower the second weakest tailed beast and the smallest. The raikage was able to knock down and break the eight tails horn. And B has implied if not said he has trained with him using all of his modes and the raikage was able to compete. Kakuzu on top of it all has no feats near this or nay to suggest he has the necessary strength.

 

[Brooks]

Since when does Doton increases your strength?:|

Now depending on how much physical damage Kakzuz's Doton can do we can come to conclusion if it can only crack or destroy or even do nothing to the Ribcage Susanoo, but from what i seen Kakuzu would need a different scale of Doton in order to finish the job.

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[Unorthodox]

didnt choji take on of those punches

 

[DrProof]

Comparing Ribcage to a tailed beast. The fact is he could not overpower the second weakest tailed beast and the smallest. The raikage was able to knock down and break the eight tails horn. And B has implied if not said he has trained with him using all of his modes and the raikage was able to compete. Kakuzu on top of it all has no feats near this or nay to suggest he has the necessary strength.

Doesn't Hachibi say it doesn't matter how many tails a beast has? It doesn't determine their strength?

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Doesn't Hachibi say it doesn't matter how many tails a beast has? It doesn't determine their strength?

He meant to take other things into account other than their chakra and strength level such as skill.
But akatsuki have said they are in that order.
The fight with the tailed beasts prove that the nine and eight tails are much stronger than the rest.
And we are comparing them physically and the tailed beast chakra levels have proven to be a factor. Kakuzu still has no feats on the raikages level as well.

 

[Draphsin]

Some people say he hit him through the gaps of the ribcage. the flames get in the way so i won't really know 100%

This is untrue because you can clearly see pieces of shrapnel from susanoo. also Mei used lava release on sasuke so if there were any gaps whatsoever then the lava would've seeped in

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Comparing Ribcage to a tailed beast. The fact is he could not overpower the second weakest tailed beast and the smallest. The raikage was able to knock down and break the eight tails horn. And B has implied if not said he has trained with him using all of his modes and the raikage was able to compete. Kakuzu on top of it all has no feats near this or nay to suggest he has the necessary strength.

lol youre turning this into a VS thread... Bijuu are completely irrelevant in this discussion....:sy: Anyways I gave you proof that kakuzu has destructive capabilities that are comparable to that of the raikage, i also proved that the raikage has the force and potential to break susanoo effortlessly. So by using my common sense i can figure out that kakuzu can do the same thing

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

This is untrue because you can clearly see pieces of shrapnel from susanoo. also Mei used lava release on sasuke so if there were any gaps whatsoever then the lava would've seeped in

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lol youre turning this into a VS thread... Bijuu are completely irrelevant in this discussion....:sy: Anyways I gave you proof that kakuzu has destructive capabilities that are comparable to that of the raikage, i also proved that the raikage has the force and potential to break susanoo effortlessly. So by using my common sense i can figure out that kakuzu can do the same thing

Ur pathetic.
He could not overpower the weakest and smallest beats. The raikage has fought the second strongest and maybe heaviest of them. That alone shows the difference in physical strength. And no you have not even given much proof or any good ones to compare to the raikage's. No proof kakuzu is in his league.

 

[Brooks]

And what do your pictures prove exactly...?

Heres raikage effortlessly taking out susanoo's ribcage

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If he can do it, so can kakuzu

Bad logic

The Railkage in v2 has a tailed-beast Chakra level which increases both his physical strength and speed while Kakuzu's Doton or Doton in general only increases physical damage...in the Railkag's case the more Chakra he build·up the great his physical strength increases, but in Kakuzu's case...depending of the scale of his Doton the great the damage.

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[Draphsin]

Ur pathetic.
He could not overpower the weakest and smallest beats. The raikage has fought the second strongest and maybe heaviest of them. That alone shows the difference in physical strength. And no you have not even given much proof or any good ones to compare to the raikage's. No proof kakuzu is in his league.

lol.....look whos talking? resorting to name calling when you look dumb and get proven wrong :sy:


did kakuzu activate his doton technique when fighting the bijuu.......? NO, so youre entire bijuu argument is wrong because you cant prove that kakuzu is weaker than Nibi. So your evidence is false while mine supports my argument

Bad logic

The Railkage in v2 has a tailed-beast Chakra level which increases both his physical strength and speed while Kakuzu's Doton or Doton in general only increases physical damage...in the Railkag's case the more Chakra he build·up the great his physical strength increases, but in Kakuzu's case...depending of the scale of his Doton the great the damage.

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you miss the point, he effortlessly shattered the ribcage, if raikage didnt even have a problem breaking it then kakuzu has a great chance at doing the same as well (obviously he needs to put extra effort). But for you to call this bad logic is ammusing

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

lol.....look whos talking? resorting to name calling when you look dumb and get proven wrong :sy:


did kakuzu activate his doton technique when fighting the bijuu.......? NO, so youre entire bijuu argument is wrong because you cant prove that kakuzu is weaker than Nibi. So your evidence is false while mine supports my argument



you miss the point, he effortlessly shattered the ribcage, if raikage didnt even have a problem breaking it then kakuzu has a great chance at doing the same as well (obviously he needs to put extra effort). But for you to call this bad logic is ammusing

How exactly do you think he tanked the attack? Kakuzu did not lose a heart and he did not show impressive durability beforehand. And if he was trying to fight it then of course he would have activated it. The dark skin would have looked more lgith in the fight to compensate for the dark area.

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He was not even strong enough to through a bullet choji of of him. He got completely shoved into the ground.

And I would not call that effortlessly considering it took one of his strongest attacks to(raiger bomb) to crack it and then an enraged him to break it. Again kakauzu does not even have enough feats to put him on this level.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Using Kakuzu breaking the wall/door as a feat to compare to breaking Susanoo would be like using this feat from Gai saying he could break Susanoo:

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[Draphsin]

How exactly do you think he tanked the attack? Kakuzu did not lose a heart and he did not show impressive durability beforehand. And if he was trying to fight it then of course he would have activated it. The dark skin would have looked more lgith in the fight to compensate for the dark area.

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He was not even strong enough to through a bullet choji of of him. He got completely shoved into the ground.

LMFAO, he completely tanked choujii's attack, and as for the bijuu fight he never weaved any signs so fact states that he didnt use any techniques...You saying that his face "looked" darker in the picture when that can easily be the shading because he was inside and being covered by the huge shadow of Nibi's paw lmao.

Using Kakuzu breaking the wall/door as a feat to compare to breaking Susanoo would be like using this feat from Gai saying he could break Susanoo:

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Gai should not be underestimated....he can completely break susanoo using this

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[Akatsuki wise guy]

LMFAO, he completely tanked choujii's attack, and as for the bijuu fight he never weaved any signs so fact states that he didnt use any techniques...You saying that his face "looked" darker in the picture when that can easily be the shading because he was inside and being covered by the huge shadow of Nibi's paw lmao.

The point is he did not have the physical strength to overpower choji like

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And you want him to hurt susano ribcage?

And I meant that it is more prominent in daylight.

In regards to your raikage effortlessly crap...
And I would not call that effortlessly considering it took one of his strongest attacks to(raiger bomb) to crack it and then an enraged him to break it. Again kakauzu does not even have enough feats to put him on this level.

 

[Brooks]

lol.....look whos talking? resorting to name calling when you look dumb and get proven wrong :sy:


did kakuzu activate his doton technique when fighting the bijuu.......? NO, so youre entire bijuu argument is wrong because you cant prove that kakuzu is weaker than Nibi. So your evidence is false while mine supports my argument



you miss the point, he effortlessly shattered the ribcage, if raikage didnt even have a problem breaking it then kakuzu has a great chance at doing the same as well (obviously he needs to put extra effort). But for you to call this bad logic is ammusing

Ammusing? how ironic

Again wrong, the Railkage didn't shattered anything..he only pushed Sasuke with his physical force and his Susanoo also had to move because Sasuke was pushed and this only happened do to the the Railkage having too much force for Sasuke to with stand on his ground.

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By you logic...if the Railkage effortlessly shattered the Ribcage then why does Sasuke have his Ribcage still on? because last time i checked anything that's shattered shouldn't even be there.

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[EliteKakashi]

LMFAO, he completely tanked choujii's attack, and as for the bijuu fight he never weaved any signs so fact states that he didnt use any techniques...You saying that his face "looked" darker in the picture when that can easily be the shading because he was inside and being covered by the huge shadow of Nibi's paw lmao.



Gai should not be underestimated....he can completely break susanoo using this

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I was not underestimating him. Just showing the comparison is a little silly. Gai, in base, would not break Susanoo.

 

[Chatte]

Sorry, but I will have to disagree with you. Until is showed in manga that he comes near to Tsunade's destructive force, I won't buy it.

 

[Draphsin]

The point is he did not have the physical strength to overpower choji like

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And you want him to hurt susano ribcage?

And I meant that it is more prominent in daylight.

In regards to your raikage effortlessly crap...
And I would not call that effortlessly considering it took one of his strongest attacks to(raiger bomb) to crack it and then an enraged him to break it. Again kakauzu does not even have enough feats to put him on this level.

You're comparing kakuzu in base to some of the strongest characters in the series (the raikage). If kakuzu had his doton active (which he used to defend against choujii, he barely had enough time to weave a sign) then he could break susanoo ribcage based on what we've seen from from him using it. Its not kakuzu's strength per se, its like doton armor which increases his strength to that of near raiton levels.

Ammusing? how ironic

Again wrong, the Railkage didn't shattered anything..he only pushed Sasuke with his physical force and his Susanoo also had to move because Sasuke was pushed and this only happened do to the the Railkage having too much force for Sasuke to with stand on his ground.

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By you logic...if the Railkage effortlessly shattered the Ribcage then why does Sasuke have his Ribcage still on? because last time i checked anything that's shattered shouldn't even be there.

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Show me a manga page of susanoo being completely destroyed, your whole argument is based around the fact that you think susanoo can be smashed to pieces, and not regenerate afterwards. This has never been the case as its the ultimate defense. My point which you seem to miss for some reason is that kakuzu's doton armor has been shown to possess incredible strength (comparable to raiton) so it should be able to crack susanoo's ribcae, regardless if the user can regenerate it immediately afterwards. if kakuzu cant at least crack the ribcage of susanoo then danzou wouldnt be able to penetrate the back of a completed susanoo with mere futon.

I was not underestimating him. Just showing the comparison is a little silly. Gai, in base, would not break Susanoo.

Im comparing kakuzu who's not in base, his destructive force was larger than that. And gai is a pure taijutsu user anyways, its not surprising he can do that

Sorry, but I will have to disagree with you. Until is showed in manga that he comes near to Tsunade's destructive force, I won't buy it.

doton armor has been a comparable feat to that of tsunade/A's level, im not saying that hes on par with their strength im saying that it can be used in comparison between those two

 

[Chatte]

doton armor has been a comparable feat to that of tsunade/A's level, im not saying that hes on par with their strength im saying that it can be used in comparison between those two

Mmm, doubt it. Defensive is one, offensive is another.
But meh...

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

You're comparing kakuzu in base to some of the strongest characters in the series (the raikage). If kakuzu had his doton active (which he used to defend against choujii, he barely had enough time to weave a sign) then he could break susanoo ribcage based on what we've seen from from him using it. Its not kakuzu's strength per se, its like doton armor which increases his strength to that of near raiton levels.

Unbelievable you wait this long and your just in denial. He activated his doton and was unable to overpower choji. That is a fact. He was not in base. Stop being in denial. "based on what we have seen" what exactly are his feats? And it is a problem to compare him to the strongest characters? That is the level of strength needed to do anything to susanoo! Kakuzu cant do shit.