[Game] Drinks of Sophistication - Mafia Game #20

[mothbomb]

Status is lying then

 

[Thestatusquo]

what do you mean?

 

[Michelle]

Well, my action also failed. So there's a roleblocker after all. And if your action failed, one of me - sagebee - moth - naomi is the scum roleblocker. You can rule me out because scum aren't multitasking, so I couldn't have gotten both of these results and the roleblock on you. Sagebee is town if SK is scum. so that's a remainder of moth and naomi.

Moth has to die while checking the two of them. If he doesn't, then he's the last scum.

I think we have to see where things are going after SKs flip.

The fact he didn't post at all until now means the mechanical evidence it's correct and he cannot be town.
If he flips role blocker, then anyone who visited me can theoretically be scum.
The interesting thing is the similarity of roles claimed by Sagebee and Moth. Both are clearing a town or flipping a scum. In a 13 players setup this is too much unbalance in town favour, and even if it's possible because we don't know all the mafia power, it's unlikely.

 

[SoulKiller]

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I absolutely love mass claims.

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Okay every single one of you better take their vote away right now.

I am the freaking cop! not even night, not odd night, a freaking full time cop and anyone who gonna cc me is gonna get lynched immediately.

NP 1 I checked michelle and got innocent. But according to michelle I was transported. If that's the case the innocent I got innocent on paper. I did not change my read on her because I still read her townie. But looking at her now and how she immediately voting me over some mass claiming is making me rethink my decision. Because she town read me over play reasons and not mechanical reasons, thats what she said atleast.

NP2 I targeted Luke and he was townie.

NP3 I targeted thestatusquo and he is townie. If anyone was on me last night they can confirm that I targeted thestatusquo.

Hell someone can target me tomorrow NP and SEE FOR THEMSELVES That i am a freaking cop when i check the next player.

I am gonna go and continue reading and reply to some other stuff but after seeing this bs I had to make an immediate post. Jesus mafia is setting me up for a lynch and you guys are playing right into their hands.

 

[SoulKiller]

SK was transported in night 1 and shot. The dead one was Paperboi.
Mafia has killing power, no one claimed town vig. That means they switched the 2 to mix the things.
Looks like Angelus Sama and Ansa were both right about SK and I was blinded by mechanics.

Discuss this everyone, for me is 10:30 pm.

sure according to you i was transported. But no both of them are wrong and you will see for yourself when i flip cop and you regret it and it's pretty much gg for mafia at that point.

I think SK is scum. I can't explain why I'm alive right now, only if he's scum because I never pushed him. Angelus was obviously town, but he was pushing buttons as well. I didn't push SK's buttons.

Everyone should focus on this for today. I think it's SK honestly, but who knows. SK, you'll have to convince me on either Michelle or Alice for today. Good luck buddy.

I am exactly in the same boat as you buddy i have no freaking clue why i am alive as well but after seeing last night results i am sure of it. Mafia is keeping me alive to set me up for a mislynch. Especially killing angelus, i was looking forward to battle it out with him this DP.

But that's easy. You just force claim everyone and whoever claims watcher out of those 3 instantly dies... They can't fake a role because they don't have the information, they'd have to take a gambit. With the theme being odd / even, you can rule out who's lying if they choose to do so.

I think a mass claim at this point is good. We're out of doctors (well, one of them) and there are a lot of people with enough information.

Sure but not every role has odd/even so let's not fall for that bait now. I agree that mass claim was a good idea at this point since we are down to the last 7 players and we cannot afford any mislynches.

 

[Michelle]

SK the problem is we are not mafia according with your own checks and you didn't explain things completely.
Mixing the transport thing with your ability, smh.. to say I am not cleared. Yea i TRed you and also I TRed Ansa and Red in day 1. To change reads based on mechanical evidence is not a crime.

You may be cop, i don't disagree with your role claim but your alignament is that matters.
Until now we have 2 voyeurs (odd me, even Angelus) and 2 watchers (odd TSQ and even Paperboi).
2 are confirmed flipped villas.
I know I am villager so the probability of TSQ to be villager is high, that means a lot of investigative power for town.
Also we have the Sagebee and Moth claims, I personally trust just one of them, mixing killing power with alignament confirmation.
And you say you are town cop.

Rej and Al must be mocking us to give town so many invest roles isn't it?

 

[Rej]

Midway Votecounts:
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Chronical Voting Order:
mothbomb -> Naomi_Rose
mothbomb ->
Thestatusquo -> SoulKiller
mothbomb -> SoulKiller
Michelle -> SoulKiller

Votecounts:
SoulKiller: 3 (Thestatusquo, mothbomb, Michelle)

 

[Thestatusquo]

I checked michelle and got innocent. But according to michelle I was transported. If that's the case the innocent I got innocent on paper.

Can you elaborate more on how you got to that conclusion? That you checked paper, I mean.

 

[SoulKiller]

this night kill choice is either sk is very very scum

or scum wants us to lynch sk to find out

Exactly my thought scum definitely setting me up for a mislynch. Out of the 3 people voting me tho only one i can truly confirm to be townie tho and unfortunately he is the one leading this.

Ok, that’s believable.

I wanna focus on SK today regardless.

I'll try my best to be active today although i will need to go and do some checkups and pick up some medicene but I will be here majority of the dp hopefully. You are the only town lock cleared out of all the players for me after checking you out last night. I am sure we can pindown scum.

Oh boys you ready for some juice?

Corazon shot SK. He was redirected to paper. The ability triggered because SK was red but he killed paper instead because he was transed.

Mafia shot at Ansa on n1 and hence no mafia kills. That’s why SK pushed him so hard on Day 2. He knew he was immune / nk. He needed him out the game.

Big brain thonk

Not bad analysis but unfortunately it's just not true. I literally just caught him slip with his interaction with michelle. I played with ansa the longest out of all the players here so I know him the most. If this helps why i was really positive about him being scum.

@Thestatusquo
You didn't receive any notification after the night 1 action?

All these things looks logical. including the idea that Ansa were night 1 target for mafia.

If ansa was mafia night 1 target then it has nothing to do with me.

Yeah so just made an excel sheet with claims and all and SK is mechanically locked scum. He doesn't even need to defend himself. It's literally like having a red check.

Your mechanically locked scum is simply wrong. You will be lynching your cop and you gonna regret it very bad the next day. That if scum let you live.

I think we have to see where things are going after SKs flip.

The fact he didn't post at all until now means the mechanical evidence it's correct and he cannot be town.
If he flips role blocker, then anyone who visited me can theoretically be scum.
The interesting thing is the similarity of roles claimed by Sagebee and Moth. Both are clearing a town or flipping a scum. In a 13 players setup this is too much unbalance in town favour, and even if it's possible because we don't know all the mafia power, it's unlikely.

"The fact that he didn't post at all" it's like you ignored that i posted two days ago that I was in the ER for two days and avoided surgery and was let out. You out of everyone here know better that i am always active and contribute to my best of capabilities. You honestly think i would be scared because of couple votes are on me? it was medical reasons.

 

[Michelle]

I believe the medical reasons SK. Not this is the main problem though.

 

[SoulKiller]

Can you elaborate more on how you got to that conclusion? That you checked paper, I mean.

oh i just went back and checked all_red role :

"You are a Bus Driver.
- Chose two players at night and exchange their locations. An ability targetting one of your targets will instead target the other target.
"

Okay apologies for the missconfusion on my part. I thought whoever i targeted get switched with the other target i was transported with. Apparently that's not the case, which means that my results i got on michelle is true, and i was right on her.

SK the problem is we are not mafia according with your own checks and you didn't explain things completely.

You are not making much sense, you want me to say that you guys are mafia?

Mixing the transport thing with your ability, smh.. to say I am not cleared. Yea i TRed you and also I TRed Ansa and Red in day 1. To change reads based on mechanical evidence is not a crime.

Yea i was little bit confused on that my bad, went back and read all_red role again. Sure, but the thing you have no mechanical evidence. This is all assumptions you are making in your head and that's exactly what mafia want. They want me to be their next mislynch.

You may be cop, i don't disagree with your role claim but your alignament is that matters.

So you do not disagree that i am cop yet you still want to lynch your cop? i am town michelle i lynched mafia and serial killer.

Until now we have 2 voyeurs (odd me, even Angelus) and 2 watchers (odd TSQ and even Paperboi).
2 are confirmed flipped villas.
I know I am villager so the probability of TSQ to be villager is high, that means a lot of investigative power for town.

I thought exactly the same that townie have alot of investigative powers which honestly made me confused and thought maybe someone is lying here. But if that's the case and we indeed have alot of investigative powers that means mafia has the means to defend themselves from all these investigations. What i am trying to say is that mafia roles are probably op and counter ours.

Rej and Al must be mocking us to give town so many invest roles isn't it?

They probably are right now seeing how you are lynching your cop. You know it's over after this right?

 

[SoulKiller]

I believe the medical reasons SK. Not this is the main problem though.

Then don't come to me and say "he did not post anything because he is afraid to slip or whatever". I never do this shit, and you know that more than anyone michelle it's like throwing dirt on my way for silly reasons.

I am telling you guys that if anyone was on me last NP then they can confirm that i visited thestatusquo. If you guys want even more evident then you can watch me tomorrow night and i will target a person we agree with to prove my point.

 

[Michelle]

i posted two days ago that I was in the ER for two days and avoided surgery and was let out.

i think it was hard for you (this is not game related).
Hope you are well now.

 

[Michelle]

I wasn't on you. I was on Angelus but my action failed so i was RBed.

 

[SoulKiller]

What's the chances that some roles only have "odd" and "even" ? they allowed claiming and if every role had an odd and even then everything automatically checks out and you can just expose scum day 1. I don't think they would make it that easy for townies, which means that maybe some roles only have either "odd" or "even". Just brain storming here.

@Michelle
@Thestatusquo

Anyways I need to go and eat so i can take my medicines and need to get some other stuff done. These votes better be off me when i come back. For now.

VoteLynch: AliceInNoodleland

 

[Michelle]

SK, mafia knows all the roles. A cop claim is the easiest to fake.
I think I need this night to sleep to can reread in the morning. Sorry it's 10:30 but because lately I woke up for Eods at 4 and 5 am i am waking up insanely early

What's the chances that some roles only have "odd" and "even" ? they allowed claiming and if every role had an odd and even then everything automatically checks out and you can just expose scum day 1. I don't think they would make it that easy for townies, which means that maybe some roles only have either "odd" or "even". Just brain storming here.

Voyeur, my odd role has his brother even in Angelus and both we are town.
For more, wait for me to can think please.

 

[Thestatusquo]

I thought whoever i targeted get switched with the other target i was transported with.

Yeah but how do you know who you were switched with?

 

[SoulKiller]

also, before i leave with all these investigation going on i am pretty positive there is a god father. Which means there is still a chance that either thestatusquo or michelle are scum.

 

[SoulKiller]

Yeah but how do you know who you were switched with?

didn't michelle say that i was transported with paper? i was shot but paper died instead of me?

 

[SoulKiller]

If i was not transported with paper that means he was mafia N1 target and i was transported with someone else. Only thing that makes sense at this point.