[Game] Drinks of Sophistication - Mafia Game #20

[Thestatusquo]

What, you can’t vote?

 

[Alice in Noodleland]

What, you can’t vote?

Lol.. This made me chuckle. How i wish i cant vote.

 

[mothbomb]

Enjoy hiding behind my back.. Massage my shoulders while you're hiding.

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[Thestatusquo]

Nvm saw it. There’s no way it’s just that.

 

[Sagebee]

Nvm saw it. There’s no way it’s just that.

Have you claimed yet?

 

[Michelle]

I don’t think there’s a roleblocker, there might’ve been a mix-up with me targetting sk and Corazon’s ability or idk, but nobody else claimed roleblocked, so even if mafia had that ability, they most likely would’ve lost it.

I watched SK n1 but I got roleblocked.

Oh boys you ready for some juice?

Corazon shot SK. He was redirected to paper. The ability triggered because SK was red but he killed paper instead because he was transed.

Mafia shot at Ansa on n1 and hence no mafia kills. That’s why SK pushed him so hard on Day 2. He knew he was immune / nk. He needed him out the game.

Big brain thonk

@Thestatusquo
You didn't receive any notification after the night 1 action?

All these things looks logical. including the idea that Ansa were night 1 target for mafia.

 

[Thestatusquo]

It said my action failed. I deduced I was roleblocked.

@Michelle, you should've had more information for today, who did you check? You're odd night voyeur, so who did you check?

@Sagebee there's a huge wallpost that's a few pages back, it's at SoD. I literally confirmed you visiting Michelle last night, I am the Odd Watcher.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Yeah so just made an excel sheet with claims and all and SK is mechanically locked scum. He doesn't even need to defend himself. It's literally like having a red check.

Sagebee checked SK and shot but was transported to paperboi. So sagebee detected a red. If it was not paper, then it was SK. Simple deduction. His initial target (SK) was scum and the ability triggered, but instead he shot at paper.

@Sagebee I need you to tell me whether the notification you got for Michelle is the same as the one for SK.

 

[Michelle]

@Michelle, you should've had more information for today, who did you check? You're odd night voyeur, so who did you check?

I checked Angelus Sama who died so :shrug :
I said this at Sod btw..

It said my action failed. I deduced I was roleblocked.

I understand you still had a messsage from host?

 

[Thestatusquo]

I did. Michelle, you didn't get any notification on Angelus? At all?

 

[Michelle]

Yeah so just made an excel sheet with claims and all and SK is mechanically locked scum. He doesn't even need to defend himself. It's literally like having a red check.

Agree and I think this is the reason he didn't post until now, any post may show his last mate.

 

[Michelle]

I did. Michelle, you didn't get any notification on Angelus? At all?

i had the message that my action failed My first idea was it is because Angelus died but now that you say you were told that your action day 1 failed, maybe I was RBed.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Well were you gonna out the information that you were roleblocked at any point???????

Then the tables turn, and moth is probably scum roleblocker.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Well, my action was made on basically a dead person but it makes no sense to take it away from me. What's the point of a watcher if you won't out the results on a dead person?

So you must've been roleblocked. Which means that there's either an even night mafia roleblocker, or he can block on any night and he blocked someone that didn't have an action on N2 or someone that was odd and not even. I presume you only get the notification if you commit an action. Otherwise it would make no sense to be notified "your action failed" unless you had an action.

 

[Michelle]

Well were you gonna out the information that you were roleblocked at any point???????

Then the tables turn, and moth is probably scum roleblocker.

i said my action failed.
After you said about your RB i thought at this and asked for details, it wasn't intentional to hide it.

Today it's a busy day for me, sorry for low activity, I will be more active in the evening, now it's 1:30 pm

 

[Thestatusquo]

Either way, SK is scum.

If I die, I have a plan of action prepared for you

Spoiler: Plan of action if I die

Scenario A : SK somehow turns town. Autolynch Alice. Her claim isn't verifiable, she can't visit. Everyone else can.

Going back to mechanically locked mafia kp that carried out the kill n3 -> Michelle , SK, Alice because they weren't seen by me visiting someone else other than Angelus. If SK is town, then lynch Alice. Afterwards, lynch Moth. He has to hit mafia, if he doesn't die til F3 then he's scum.

Scenario B : SK is red. Still lynch Alice. Something tells me that the game won't end with the Alice lynch anyway... It's weird to give a mafia a +1 vote...And plus, she's way too relaxed. Hard to determine if it's the type of relaxation that you adopt because you're mechanically locked into a loss or just because she's town. It makes me uneasy either way.

In which case, it's probably still moth.

I want you to understand that moth HAS TO die until F3 (if he's town). If SK is scum, then Alice should be scum as well. IF she's not and moth hides behind her, you have her cleared. In moth's position, he HAS to clear people. It's impossible. He needs to out his actions. If it's not Alice, then the following day you MUST tell moth to hide behind Naomi. If she's also good, then it has to be sagebee, mathematically speaking.

Assuming SK is bad... We lynch him, there are 6 players remaining. 3 of which are cleared(me, sage, michelle). moth only has to check the other two people. If he doesn't die checking those two, then he's bad. Me, sage and michelle are confirmed, so it has to be between moth, naomi and alice. If he doesn't die while checking the both of them, then he's scum.

DON'T LET HIM CHECK WHATEVER HE WANTS. IF HE CHECKS SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN ALICE AND NAOMI, in this exact order, then he's scum. If he claims he switched targets, lynch him.

Bottom line, if Moth is alive by F3, insta lynch him. Don't overthink it. Don't let him fool you. Don't even read his posts. He's mechanically locked.

TL; DR - what that spoiler is saying is that if Moth is alive by F3, he's the remaining scum. That is, if SK is scum.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Well, my action also failed. So there's a roleblocker after all. And if your action failed, one of me - sagebee - moth - naomi is the scum roleblocker. You can rule me out because scum aren't multitasking, so I couldn't have gotten both of these results and the roleblock on you. Sagebee is town if SK is scum. so that's a remainder of moth and naomi.

Moth has to die while checking the two of them. If he doesn't, then he's the last scum.

 

[Thestatusquo]

By "the two of them" I mean Alice and Naomi.

 

[Thestatusquo]

Here's the spreadsheet with roles and stuff so you don't have to re-read everything and stuff

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[Michelle]

SK can be town for now, might be a shallow read, I'd have to wait a lot before I find myself enough time and motivation to try and actually get a good read on him. Seems like that type of a player. His catchup does seem good though, just based on how I felt reading his ideas.

So I guess that's 3 people in the town block, myself included. Leaning town on Michelle as well, but take that read with a grain of salt, didn't really take the time to thoroughly read her posts.

Don't really like Red or Kyte at the moment. Nor do I like paper. Has that sort of busy posting style that new mafias have. I might actually read his last game that Red keeps bringing up.

People need to start doing townie things so I can channel my beast mode onto the right people. Villagers, act villagery. That's all you need to do in order to win. If villagers know who villagers are, then it becomes a matter of POE.

In a town where you're not sure of even 2 people's villager alignment, then the mafias can take themselves a vacation and let you end each other off. There's no right or wrong reads, there's honest and dishonest reads. Don't be afraid to post, villas.

rereading i just felt to repost this.
The bolded are the esiest way to describe how to be town.
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First pages (1-8) I searched for interaction of AllRed with everyone. From the living players the most important are how SK talked to her in his posts on page 7 (now just quoting for further reference)

you seem alot more tamer my dear. You okay there? you are not nervous are you?

ladies ladies ladies. What is this? some melody life drama? do you want me to bring you a cup of tea and some cookies and let you two continue your little lovely chit chat?

you didn't realize the contradiction or you simply chose to ignore it? there is big difference here my dear.