Downplaying Lord hashi

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Why do people downplay hashirama like he can't beat juubito. SM hashi beat juubito med diff especially since SM is his weakness. No experienced bm naruto and ems sasuke gave him the business. Hashi was bouta tear shit up if it wasn't for madara stopping him

In my eyes I don't see hashi losing.
 

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Whilst Hashi is one of the very few non-Rikudou shinobi that could hold his ground against Juubi for a while, he couldn't win on his own. True, he's stronger than the BSM/EMS duo, but they had the support of BM Minato and Tobirama and the entire ASF, which made a huge difference.
 

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Whilst Hashi is one of the very few non-Rikudou shinobi that could hold his ground against Juubi for a while, he couldn't win on his own. True, he's stronger than the BSM/EMS duo, but they had the support of BM Minato and Tobirama and the entire ASF, which made a huge difference.
I have to disagree, bijuus are a natural tool like a sword, not using them would mean neither Uzumaki or Uchiha are using their full potential unlike Hashi so you have to include them when comparing power levels.
 

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edo Hashi has power to pin down ten tail, just not able to hold it for long but still long enough to do something if 1v1
edo version of Hashi is far weaker than alive version by miles since Madara said if Hashi were in prime or his brother were in prime Madara will lose.
Hashirama did capture all beasts and made them pet while going to kage summit to distribute all tailed beasts.
Hashirama stopped the first world war where all kages look badass and much more fearsome than the current fodder kages - with just 1 wood no jutsu tech.
Hashirama can fight in super uper long range while using mokuton to absorb Juubito chakra in same time
 

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. As much as a Rin baby Obito is, Juubito destroys Hashirama like there is no tomorrow. Just because he has senjutsu doesn't mean he can do much with it against someone on rikudou's level. He used his Senpou gates on him and we saw how easily he broke it while impaling him and his brother.
 

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. As much as a Rin baby Obito is, Juubito destroys Hashirama like there is no tomorrow. Just because he has senjutsu doesn't mean he can do much with it against someone on rikudou's level. He used his Senpou gates on him and we saw how easily he broke it while impaling him and his brother.
Edo Hashi is far weaker than alive version.
Alive version able to capture all tailed beasts and make them pet while he going to kage summit and give them away.
 

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Edo Hashi is far weaker than alive version.
Alive version able to capture all tailed beasts and make them pet while he going to kage summit and give them away.
That's not a way weaker version of Hashirama, he was near to his full strength thanks to Tobirama pointing that out.
And Hashirama never controlled all nine bijuus as pets, especially when in the first kage summit the sand village already had the Sanbi and declared for more land while Madara went out in the wild to capture the nine tails to use it in his battle against Hashirama.

So realistically he had up to seven bijuus and even then, a juubi jinchuuriki would destroy all nine bijuus in a fight. Seven being Hashirama's case. Also, if Hashirama actually had all nine bijuus, he should've awakened RSM by now.
 
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