Double standard of Fanboys

[Sage Moonblood]

Well technically they had to DIE for those power ups. So it wasnt just given to them. Its not easy to just die lol. So they deserve it

 

[mohdzarif]

Madara without additional powers is ridiculously strong already. Sasuke also is pretty much powerful without stolen powers. It's Naruto that's truly been given given free Kyuubi power.

And Madara took lots of time until he obtained those stolen powers except EMS. Whereas Naruto and Sasuke at their 16-17 year-old age already very easily got free power from Hagoromo.

Madara was the one who strived more to get stolen powers.

 

[Klad]

Bro , don't bother with them . The fanboys of the worst character are also the worst themselves . Mostly of Madara fans bandwagon , which is not even funny . Lol

 

[assface3]

He took his brother's eyes after he died and gained EMS. That didn't take years of prep. He didn't want that to happen, but was desperate and going blind, so he did. Nonetheless, that's a handout.

Then, he fought w/ Hashi and lost but managed to get some of his DNA. He didn't know what would happen if he injected himself w/ it, he just did and he luckily got the Rinnegan. That didn't take years of prep, he wasn't sure of what power would form, it just took years of waiting.

He read what was on the Uchiha tablet and then acted accordingly and manipulated Obito. Then he died, he was basically winging it. Obito nearly even screwed him over, had Kabuto not brought back Madz as an Edo, he would have been done & his plan would have failed.

Madara does prep, but it is not coming only from his own intelligence. He's following instructions on a tablet. That and he's very determined/lucky. That's why he's gotten this far.

Sasuke and Naruto actually worked harder for the powerups themselves than Madara did. People just like to scrutinze the main characters more and tend to praise OP villains. It'll change once Madara loses though (which is inevitable), you'll see him lose fans and people will bash him.

I was referring to Madara after the VotE fight; after he started to see the world differently.

Saying that his plan was a result of reading the tablet rather than his own intelligence is just wrong. He got the idea of his plan - the Infinite Tsukuyomi - from the tablet. The actual meat of the plan was all of his doing; sure, Obito just dropped out of nowhere, but it was his manipulation that led to Obito doing what he's done thus far, not luck or instructions on a tablet; the tablet didn't tell him how to make Zetsu clones from Hashi's DNA so they could assist him in his plan. The tablet didn't tell him to insert chakra rods into Obito for future use, in case the latter retaliated against him. The tablet didn't tell him how to break the contract of Edo Tensei.

Sure, Madara's going to get bashed by lesser fans of Naruto, but there will still be people out there who will know that he lost due to Naruto and Sasuke being given powerups to beat him.

This is all assuming he loses in the first place. Though highly unlikely, Madara could easily succeed with his plan and put the world in the Infinite Tsukuyomi; you have to always think of the possibility of Kishi trolling you.

So, because Madara was planning years of getting the EMS, it's ok, but when it comes to Sasuke's EMS or Naruto's power then it's given?
Fix your logic.

Fix what you're saying, as it makes no sense.

 

[take it easy]

Madara without additional powers is ridiculously strong already. Sasuke also is pretty much powerful without stolen powers. It's Naruto that's truly been given given free Kyuubi power.

without brothers eyes sasuke and madara just useless sack of meat

 

[xcoyote]

Madara is a clown.

 

[mohdzarif]

without brothers eyes sasuke and madara just useless sack of meat

I know that they got EMS. But without EMS, they are naturally talented already and very strong especially Madara.

 

[Dannie]

Fix what you're saying, as it makes no sense.

What you said makes no sense, dunce.

 

[Chie]

This is all assuming he loses in the first place. Though highly unlikely, Madara could easily succeed with his plan and put the world in the Infinite Tsukuyomi; you have to always think of the possibility of Kishi trolling you.

I would actually like to see Infinite Tsukiyomi just due to all of the hype it's received, but I doubt it will happen. Even if it did, then Naruto and Sasuke would find a way to break it anyway. Logically, this war should have been over long ago w/ Madara succeeding, but it isn't because Madara feels the need to brag and give history lessons. Why would Kishi stall so much if he was going to let Infinite Tsukiyomi succeed in the first place? We are more than likely not going to see it. Madara is going to fail, the villains always fail and that's pretty much a shounen standard. Also doesn't help that the Naruto series follows most of the stereotypes seen in other shounen.

 

[take it easy]

I know that they got EMS. But without EMS, they are naturally talented already and very strong especially Madara.

tell me how blind madara and sasuke can take high tier opponents

 

[Awkward Linguist]

He took his brother's eyes after he died and gained EMS. That didn't take years of prep. He didn't want that to happen, but was desperate and going blind, so he did. Nonetheless, that's a handout.

Then, he fought w/ Hashi and lost but managed to get some of his DNA. He didn't know what would happen if he injected himself w/ it, he just did and he luckily got the Rinnegan. That didn't take years of prep, he wasn't sure of what power would form, it just took years of waiting.

He read what was on the Uchiha tablet and then acted accordingly and manipulated Obito. Then he died, he was basically winging it. Obito nearly even screwed him over, had Kabuto not brought back Madz as an Edo, he would have been done & his plan would have failed.

Madara does prep, but it is not coming only from his own intelligence. He's following instructions on a tablet. That and he's very determined/lucky. That's why he's gotten this far.

Sasuke and Naruto actually worked harder for the powerups themselves than Madara did. People just like to scrutinze the main characters more and tend to praise OP villains. It'll change once Madara loses though (which is inevitable), you'll see him lose fans and people will bash him.

No, not really. It does take intelligence to decipher the Uchiha Monument. It's simple really, how many Uchiha Ninja's have read the monument, and how many have gained a comparable power to that of Madara's? None really. No one really could get power beyond MS. And I admit, the discovery of EMS was by accident but really, how many others have read the monument and don't have shit. Also, since others have read the monument,why had they no awareness or knowledge of prior generations, such as Rikuudo, God tree and the cycle of hatred? It was all stated in the monument. Therefore it's safe to assume that the context of the monument had been in some form of a riddle. Therefore it it takes intelligence to decipher it and apply. I'm not saying Madara is the smartest the NarutoVerse, but merely contradicting your statement(s).

 

[assface3]

I would actually like to see Infinite Tsukiyomi just due to all of the hype it's received, but I doubt it will happen. Even if it did, then Naruto and Sasuke would find a way to break it anyway. Logically, this war should have been over long ago w/ Madara succeeding, but it isn't because Madara feels the need to brag and give history lessons. Why would Kishi stall so much if he was going to let Infinite Tsukiyomi succeed in the first place? We are more than likely not going to see it. Madara is going to fail, the villains always fail and that's pretty much a shounen standard. Also doesn't help that the Naruto series follows most of the stereotypes seen in other shounen.

Sadly, you're correct; Madara is most likely going to be defeated with "power of friendship".

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Madara without additional powers is ridiculously strong already. Sasuke also is pretty much powerful without stolen powers. It's Naruto that's truly been given given free Kyuubi power.

Dude, for real? You're making statements like that and not considering Sage Mode? Please...

 

[Awkward Linguist]

tell me how blind madara and sasuke can take high tier opponents

He's not stating that they're blind, he's speculating IF they hadn't had EMS/MS/3T and had regular eyes.

 

[Chie]

No, not really. It does take intelligence to decipher the Uchiha Monument. It's simple really, how many Uchiha Ninja's have read the monument, and how many have gained a comparable power to that of Madara's? None really. No one really could get power beyond MS. And I admit, the discovery of EMS was by accident but really, how many others have read the monument and don't have shit. Also, since others have read the monument,why had they no awareness or knowledge of prior generations, such as Rikuudo, God tree and the cycle of hatred? It was all stated in the monument. Therefore it's safe to assume that the context of the monument had been in some form of a riddle. Therefore it it takes intelligence to decipher it and apply. I'm not saying Madara is the smartest the NarutoVerse, but merely contradicting your statement(s).

I never said that he didn't use his intelligence, he's a smart guy. I was just saying that he didn't 100% come up w/ Infinite Tsukiyomi on his own, he did read a tablet that told him about it. Then he used his intelligence to get to the point where he is now.

He read more of the monument because he had the ability to read more, he had the rinnegan. That's why he knew about Rikudo and his descendants. Having the rinnegan allows you to decipher more. He got eyes by luck after injecting himself w/ Hashirama's DNA, he didn't know what would happen & it just worked in his favor. He received superior eyes and just read the tablet. The only ones who have deciphered the tablet just by info they themselves gathered were Oro/Kabuto.

No one could really get power beyond MS? Since when did the other Uchihas we know about have a chance to do so? Shisui lost his eye to Danzo and gave the other to Itachi, also he had no brother so that was out the window for him...he had no way of getting EMS anyway. Itachi got dragged into a huge mess when he decided to protect Konoha/Uchiha clan honor and was intent on dying so the Uchiha could be avenged through Sasuke and he could be known for taking down a missing-nin & receive the recognition that comes with that. Obito has no brother, he isn't getting EMS. And Sasuke got EMS.

Madara is very intelligent and experienced. He did work hard. But he also had more opportunities to gain power than most, that's all I was saying. That and luck seems to work on his side, which is understandable considering that he is the main villain as of now.

 

[Sirius Black]

Madara took those powers through years of prep.

Naruto and Sasuke are being given their powerup.

Taking powers by force is cool; being born with innate powers is ok; earning powers is awesome; but being given powers is just low.

First of all Taking powers can be cool you can say that you won it from someone who was to weak. Then again Madara didn't win he lost and gained powers by sneaky way for which there is a word. we call it stealing Which is bad no matter how you put it.

Now NAruto and sasuke are not being just given the powers they earned it. Why you might ask? So answer is that Ashura And Indra chose these boys not the other way around. Naruto was chosen because of his hardwork and will to create peace. Sasuke was chosen because of his revenge wanting reason just like Indra wanted from Ashura.
NAruto was not given bijuu power he earned their respect and even now they Mostly Sasuke because naruto was already walking the right path earned sage's respect

All in all The power they are getting could have been taken by anyone who removed his heart's darkness and wanted true peace but, no matter how good a shinobi every one of then had hatred. these two boys removed their hatred. So this power is better than stolen one and is not something like spoonful-fed

 

[Awkward Linguist]

I never said that he didn't use his intelligence, he's a smart guy. I was just saying that he didn't 100% come up w/ Infinite Tsukiyomi on his own, he did read a tablet that told him about it. Then he used his intelligence to get to the point where he is now.

Why are you contradicting yourself?

Madara does prep, but it is not coming only from his own intelligence. He's following instructions on a tablet. That and he's very determined/lucky. That's why he's gotten this far.

He read more of the monument because he had the ability to read more, he had the rinnegan. That's why he knew about Rikudo and his descendants. Having the rinnegan allows you to decipher more. He got eyes by luck after injecting himself w/ Hashirama's DNA, he didn't know what would happen & it just worked in his favor. He received superior eyes and just read the tablet. The only ones who have deciphered the tablet just by info they themselves gathered were Oro/Kabuto.

No one could really get power beyond MS? Since when did the other Uchihas we know about have a chance to do so? Shisui lost his eye to Danzo and gave the other to Itachi, also he had no brother so that was out the window for him...he had no way of getting EMS anyway. Itachi got dragged into a huge mess when he decided to protect Konoha/Uchiha clan honor and was intent on dying so the Uchiha could be avenged through Sasuke and he could be known for taking down a missing-nin & receive the recognition that comes with that. Obito has no brother, he isn't getting EMS. And Sasuke got EMS.

Madara is very intelligent and experienced. He did work hard. But he also had more opportunities to gain power than most, that's all I was saying. That and luck seems to work on his side, which is understandable considering that he is the main villain as of now.

Well i'm sure you're aware that it wasn't only the odd couple who got the MS. If i remember correctly I'm sure it said somewhere in the manga that the Uchiha was a clan of people destroying each other to get MS? Well i'm sure they had plenty of chances of getting an EMS.

@Bolds, provide manga evidence please.

I agree with the rest ;P

 

[Conspirator.]

Madara already planned his infinite tsukyomi before leaving the village-that was the "dream of the future" he told hashirama about. At the time, he didn't have the rinnegan. In fact, I don't think he ever read the tablet with the rinnegan given he awakened it such an old age.

 

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[Sirius Black]

Madara already planned his infinite tsukyomi before leaving the village-that was the "dream of the future" he told hashirama about. At the time, he didn't have the rinnegan. In fact, I don't think he ever read the tablet with the rinnegan given he awakened it such an old age.

Ussually when you say Dream of future it means the good,welfare type of dream not enslaving everyone