[Discussion] Donquixote family sniper

[chopstickchakra]

Before I start I want to point out that so far the biggest crews' snipers have been high-ups: Yasopp, Van Auger, Usopp. Despite Usopp's comparative weakness, if the SH's were structured like WB Pirates Usopp would be a division captain.

I was in a debate with another user not long ago about Gladius, where he said Gladius was the Donquixote family's sniper because of the page where Doffy told law Gladius' taught him marksmanship. It was a very convincing point but it always seemed odd to me that the sniper position wouldn't be a top exec.

Then I started catching up with the anime and the Colloseum and saw Trebol snot shot a fly. That's when it dawned on me, Trebol is their sniper.

Agree, disagree? Who do you think the sniper of the crew is?

 

[Bogard]

Why would a sniper necessarly be a top executive when it only requires a long range distance skill without physical capabilities? Trebol catching that fly just showed how precise he was as a fighter. It's like Lao G for example who was learning Law how to hit vital points or Mihawk who could target Luffy mid-soru despite the place being crowded. It requires skill or technique that most major fighters in this manga possess without necessarly being snipers on their own. Trebol doesn't need to be one.

Gladius is known for his skills in artillery. His arms are equipped with a firing mechanism which he uses in conjunction with his Devil Fruit ability to shoot rupturing bullets, possess shades giving him a telescope-like vision, similiar to Usopp's goggles, to increase his accuracy. Additionally, his hair is coated in a paralyzing agent, which becomes a dangerous projectile when combined with his Devil Fruit powers.

He is the sniper of the group

 

[Kαmi]

I would say Gladius is the sniper of the group. For mainly the reasons that Bogard said and the fact that he was said to taught Law marksmanship. Gladius also seems to be more calculating as a person as compared to Trebol and Trebol was Sugar's bodyguard. Also, didn't Viola and Gladius used to be under the same executive? If so, it makes even more sense for Gladius to be a sniper as he would have Viola's bird's view ability to help his own sniping ability.

Tbh, it would make more sense to me if a sniper worked under a top executive as opposed to being a top executive themselves when it comes to way Doflamingo's family operates.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I would say Gladius is the sniper of the group. For mainly the reasons that Bogard said and the fact that he was said to taught Law marksmanship. Gladius also seems to be more calculating as a person as compared to Trebol and Trebol was Sugar's bodyguard. Also, didn't Viola and Gladius used to be under the same executive? If so, it makes even more sense for Gladius to be a sniper as he would have Viola's bird's view ability to help his own sniping ability.

Tbh, it would make more sense to me if a sniper worked under a top executive as opposed to being a top executive themselves when it comes to way Doflamingo's family operates.

Violet is in Trebol's group which is another reason I though it made more sense that he be the crew's sniper. Gladius is obviously a good marksman I'm not saying he isn't but it seems like sniper is an important part of a crew so it made sense that a top seat and more trusted member would get that responsibility.

Also onepiece wikia has this as his description"He is a very powerful sniper, as he managed to create a bullet made of mucus with his index finger and fire it at a very high speed with very precise aim, being able to hit a fly directly between the eyes while piercing a wall with explosive force, and blasting through three layers of reinforced concrete" Not only does it mention him as a sniper but it mentions hitting a fly between the eyes which is a greater accuracy feat than being able to hit a full sized human a couple hundred yards away. I know wikia calling him sniper isn't significant but hitting a fly between the eyes is.

 

[sleepinsleuth]

trebol has good hand-eye coordination. which; while being useful for snipping, doesn't equate to the same thing.

 

[ultraChalk]

I don't think that's a good enough reason to believe that Trebol is a sniper, dude. It's gonna take more than snot shooting a fly 1 time to earn that title. If he was a long distance fighter and had a variety of those attacks, that would be different.

Gladius isn't a sniper. Wearing goggles and having 1 long distance attack doesn't make you a sniper.

Baby 5 was their sharp shooter/sniper. You know, the one that could turn into an actual sniper rifle if she willed it.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Like I said earlier, the fact that Gladius taught Law marksmanship instead of Trebol doing so means that Gladius is the better marksman between the two and the crew's best marksman.

 

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[Uzumaki Macho]

I don't think that's a good enough reason to believe that Trebol is a sniper, dude. It's gonna take more than snot shooting a fly 1 time to earn that title. If he was a long distance fighter and had a variety of those attacks, that would be different.

Gladius isn't a sniper. Wearing goggles and having 1 long distance attack doesn't make you a sniper.

Baby 5 was their sharp shooter/sniper. You know, the one that could turn into an actual sniper rifle if she willed it.

And who do you think taught Baby 5 how to use her artillery weapons?

 

[ultraChalk]

And who do you think taught Baby 5 how to use her artillery weapons?

Herself.

Gladius can't teach her how to turn into different weapons, or how to fire herself. There's not even any proof to suggest that Gladius taught her anything, and you seem to be under the impression he has an artillery of weapons that he uses or something. He has scope goggles, punk hair which is a projectile attack, hardly enough to qualify as a sniper/sharp shooter, and those gun things from his arms. Baby 5 has any machine weapon or close combat weapon she can imagine at her disposal, inside of her. She is more of a sharp shooter, and more than likely a better shot, than Gladius will ever be.

And she can turn into a weapon with a scope, so there's really nothing to be taught.

Not all snipers have teachers friend. DF users train themselves to learn new abilities. LUFFY taught HIMSELF to use pistol. Sabo used Aces example as a guide on how to use Fire fist. Robin taught herself how to make giant arms. Chopper created more points and built on his past ones, by himself. Then there's Kaku and Khalifa if you really want to go there. Being a DF user is a unique experience, he couldn't have guided her on how to use hers.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Herself.

Glad jus can't teach her how to turn into different weapons, or how to fire herself. There's not event my proof to suggest that Gladius taught her anything.
And she can turn into a weapon with a scope, so there's really nothing to be taught.

She didnt automatically gain accuracy when she ate the fruit. I don't see how a part of her body being the gun would prevent Gladius from teaching her how to use a gun.

 

[ultraChalk]

She didnt automatically gain accuracy when she ate the fruit. I don't see how a part of her body being the gun would prevent Gladius from teaching her how to use a gun.

I edited my post. And the fact that Gladius needed binocular goggles suggest he wasn't really in any position to teach others how to fire things, since he needed them to gain accuracy himself, Law being the exception. And Law didn't use guns.

And like I said, she can turn into a weapon with a scope. Bye bye inaccuracy problems. And nobody is good at anything on their first try. She had to improve over time.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I edited my post. And the fact that Gladius needed binocular goggles suggest he wasn't really in any position to teach others how to fire things, since he needed them to gain accuracy himself, Law being the exception. And Law didn't use guns.

And like I said, she can turn into a weapon with a scope. Bye bye inaccuracy problems. And nobody is good at anything on their first try. She had to improve over time.

Usopp has worn binoculars before, so I guess he is a shitty marksman as well. Putting on a scope isn't going to make you accurate.

 

[ultraChalk]

Usopp has worn binoculars before, so I guess he is a shitty marksman as well. Putting on a scope isn't going to make you accurate.

Usopp has never worn binoculars, he wore goggles, a very common sharp shooter accessory to help him focus with his eyes so that wind doesn't make him flinch. They even lift up so that he can look through them if the situation calls for it. There's never been any binocular extension in those things, not even in the concept art. Big difference friend.

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Usopp is a true sharp shooter, not Gladius.

And his greatest shot from the tower of justice has him using his sogeking goggles. Not binoculars. Otherwise that would've been noted.

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And like I said nobody is perfect at anything their first try. It takes practice. And you do understand that you're basing you entire argument on an assumption, a crack theory, that Gladius taught Baby 5 how to control her DF and shoot things properly right? You're fishing here.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Usopp has never worn binoculars, he wore goggles, a very common sharp shooter accessory to help him focus with his eyes so that wind doesn't make him flinch. They even lift up so that he can look through them if the situation calls for it. There's never been any binocular extension in those things, not even in the concept art. Big difference friend.

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Usopp is a true sharp shooter, not Gladius.

And his greatest shot from the tower of justice has him using his sogeking goggles. Not binoculars. Otherwise that would've been noted.

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And like I said nobody is perfect at anything their first try. It takes practice. And you do understand that you're basing you entire argument on an assumption, a crack theory, that Gladius taught Baby 5 how to control her DF and shoot things properly right? You're fishing here.

I don't see how Gladius wearing a scope makes him a bad marksman. So you're telling me that Gladius would decide to teach Law how to use a gun, but not Baby 5, who's fighting relies entirely on weapons? The DD Pirates trained their recruits pretty tough, so I'm sure that they would want to accelerate Baby 5's growth rate by teaching her how to use artillery instead of her trying to figure it out on her own.