Dojutsu ranking based on feats

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BZ clearly states that a master w/ a rock can beat a novice w/ a Shuriken. Kaguya is the expert w/ a rock here. She has a weaker Dojutsu than EMS and Rinnegan yet she fodderized the person wielding those Dojutsu because of her natural ability compared to Sasuke's natural ability. That says nothing about the Dojutsu in general and is obviously not how to accurately rank Dojutsu, otherwise we'd be saying:

-Byakugan>Rinnegan/EMS because Kaguya fodderized Sasuke.
-3-Tomoe>=Mangekyo Sharingan because Sasuke was able to break free from Tsukuyomi.
-MS>EMS because DMS Kakashis feats surpass what EMS Sasuke is capable of.


But the op is basing the ranking purely on feats. Since Kaguya is a God like character, her Byakugan based feat surpass'es many many other doujutsu feats.

We don't disagree about the importance of the wielder. Thats why I listed the names of the people who accomplished the feat with each doujutsu.
 

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Not sure what that link has to do with my comment.

To elabarate although Kaguya's feats were powered by the chakra of all her doujutsu, her junken attacks were based off her Byakugan doujutsu. It being a kkm doesn't change that.

That moves the Byakugan much higher up the list in my op. If you restrict the Byakugan to Hyuuga feats than I will agree.

"Jyuuken" while powered up by Kaguya's full chakra is indeed powerful.

But do you know what is just as powerful? Any move powered up by Kaguya's full chakra. Juubi level fireball? Just as strong. Juubi level rasengan? Just as strong. Juubi level ****ing any jutsu? Just as stong.

How do Hyuuga faps not get this (Not that I think you are one yet)? Imagine what a real jutsu powered up by the Juubi's full chakra would be like. Imagine Madara's Juubi Jinchuriki Perfect Susano'o just for a second.

To say that the Byakugan is the most powerful Doujutsu because it had the greatest handicap in the manga is foolish. Put them all on equal footing and watch the Sharingan and Rinnegan shit on the Byakugan all over again, just as they did for the first 650+ chapters of the manga.
 
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But the op is basing the ranking purely on feats. Since Kaguya is a God like character, her Byakugan based feat surpass'es many many other doujutsu feats.

We don't disagree about the importance of the wielder. Thats why I listed the names of the people who accomplished the feat with each doujutsu.

But then you are just listing character feats. Not Dojutsu feats.
 

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"Jyuuken" while powered up by Kaguya's full chakra is indeed powerful.

But do you know what is just as powerful? Any move powered up by Kaguya's full chakra. Juubi level fireball? Just as strong. Juubi level rasengan? Just as strong. Juubi level ****ing any jutsu? Just as stong.

How do Hyuuga faps not get this? Imagine what a real jutsu powered up by the Juubi's full chakra would be like. Imagine Madara's Juubi Jinchuriki Perfect Susano'o just for a second.


Lol, are we disagreeing on something? If Kaguya had of been using Sharingan feats instead than I would have listed the Sharingan in place of the Byakugan.

I'm not a Hyuuga fap. None of them are on my list of favorite characters. Anyway, what does me using Kaguya's Byakugan feat have to do with the Hyuuga's?

This is a conversation about doujutsu feats, not clan feats.

I take it you are one of the rustled??
 

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"Jyuuken" while powered up by Kaguya's full chakra is indeed powerful.

But do you know what is just as powerful? Any move powered up by Kaguya's full chakra. Juubi level fireball? Just as strong. Juubi level rasengan? Just as strong. Juubi level ****ing any jutsu? Just as stong.

How do Hyuuga faps not get this (Not that I think you are one yet)?
Imagine what a real jutsu powered up by the Juubi's full chakra would be like. Imagine Madara's Juubi Jinchuriki Perfect Susano'o just for a second.

To say that the Byakugan is the most powerful Doujutsu because it had the greatest handicap in the manga is foolish. Put them all on equal footing and watch the Sharingan and Rinnegan shit on the Byakugan all over again, just as they did for the first 650+ chapters of the manga.

i wonder the same thing when people use sasuke madara and obito to say sharingan is strong. only strong sharingan user who isn't incarnate of an alien demon man, has rikudo chakra, hashiroids, etc is itachi and he is an exception than the norm hence why he was praised so much

but no, using kaguya, hamura, and toneri isn't fair even though they are original byakugan users unlike hyuga
 

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But then you are just listing character feats. Not Dojutsu feats.

It takes a character to produce the feat in the first place so they're one and the same the way I see it.

I based my list on the mist powerful feats. If you want to tally all the feats and base the list off the total than Byakugan would be 2nd to last behind Rinnesharingan which only has one feat that i'm aware of and thats IT.

Edit: Byakugan would also be above 2t and probably equal to 3t.
 
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Lol, are we disagreeing on something? If Kaguya had of been using Sharingan feats instead than I would have listed the Sharingan in place of the Byakugan.

I'm not a Hyuuga fap. None of them are on my list of favorite characters. Anyway, what does me using Kaguya's Byakugan feat have to do with the Hyuuga's?

This is a conversation about doujutsu feats, not clan feats.

I take it you are one of the rustled??

@bold is very clearly false.

What if Zabuza got all of Kaguya's powers and was able to kill everyone on earth with a Rikudou Water Dragon? Would you claim that Suiton is better than all other jutsus categories? No. Why not? Because it wasn't Zabuza's Suiton that was powerful, it was the chakra behind the Suiton.

So to claim that the Byakugan is better than the Rinnegan or Sharingan just because one person with overwhelming amounts of chakra used it, is foolish.

MS Sasuke compared to 16 year old Nagato compared to War Arc Neji is the most fair comparison you can make, and Neji is well well WELL below the level of his foes. By a mile.

i wonder the same thing when people use sasuke madara and obito to say sharingan is strong. only strong sharingan user who isn't incarnate of an alien demon man, has rikudo chakra, hashiroids, etc is itachi and he is an exception than the norm hence why he was praised so much

but no, using kaguya, hamura, and toneri isn't fair even though they are original byakugan users unlike hyuga

And yet the Hyuuga only got to shine after the Uchiha and Senju were gone. They were a distant 3rd and always will be so long as the Uchiha or Senju are around. It's a manga fact.

@bold is ****ing hilarious coming from you, the chief fap whose every other post to support his claims is Kaguya attacking Sasuke.
 
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It takes a character to produce the feat in the first place so they're one and the same the way I see it.

I based my list on the mist powerful feats. If you want to tally all the feats and base the list off the total than Byakugan would be 2nd to last behind Rinnesharingan which only has one feat that i'm aware of and thats IT.

Edit: Byakugan would also be above 2t and probably equal to 3t.

But the way I see it is, if you want to see which Dojutsu is better you have to see how they'd each affect the powers of the same character so that strength outside of Dojutsu cancel out. If you want to see what character overall is superior then you factor in user strength.

So your list is merely a character ranking as it doesn't speak on the Dojutsu's power alone.

IT is literally Genjutsu in the world and can take out anyone who isn't wielding a Rinnegan or a zombie yet somehow even w/ just that feat it's last? Come on.
 

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@bold is very clearly false.

What if Zabuza got all of Kaguya's powers and was able to kill everyone on earth with a Rikudou Water Dragon? Would you claim that Suiton is better than all other jutsus categories? No. Why not? Because it wasn't Zabuza's Suiton that was powerful, it was the chakra behind the Suiton.

So to claim that the Byakugan is better than the Rinnegan or Sharingan just because one person with overwhelming amounts of chakra used it, is foolish.

MS Sasuke compared to 16 year old Nagato compared to War Arc Neji is the most fair comparison you can make, and Neji is well well WELL below the level of his foes. By a mile.



And yet the Hyuuga only got to shine after the Uchiha and Senju were gone. They were a distant 3rd and always will be so long as the Uchiha or Senju are around. It's a manga fact.


Bro, I answered the op's question. What about the question and my answer so hard to understand?

Kaguya's Byakugan feat was more powerful than anything we have seen from lets say an ms users feat.

In order to get the answer YOU are looking for than the op will need reframe the question.
 

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But the way I see it is, if you want to see which Dojutsu is better you have to see how they'd each affect the powers of the same character so that strength outside of Dojutsu cancel out. If you want to see what character overall is superior then you factor in user strength.

So your list is merely a character ranking as it doesn't speak on the Dojutsu's power alone.

IT is literally Genjutsu in the world and can take out anyone who isn't wielding a Rinnegan or a zombie yet somehow even w/ just that feat it's last? Come on.

My list has Rinnesharingan as the number 1 based on that one feat so maybe you missed my point.

It doesn't work to try and compare realatively equaly powerful characters to compare doujutsu because there aren't any equal to compare.
 

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My list has Rinnesharingan as the number 1 based on that one point so maybe you missed my point.

It doesn't work to try and compare realatively equaly powerful characters to compare doujutsu because there aren't any equal to compare.

You don't need two equal characters, just add the Dojutsu you are comparing to the base state of one character. We know how they affect the user's power so it's easy to gauge which one would be stronger. Example:

-Neji w/ Byakugan vs. Neji w/ MS.
 

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Bro, I answered the op's question. What about the question and my answer so hard to understand?

Kaguya's Byakugan feat was more powerful than anything we have seen from lets say an ms users feat.

In order to get the answer YOU are looking for than the op will need reframe the question.

If you're honestly saying this after reading my response, then you're incapable of logical conclusion and aren't worth the time it would take to explain it all again.

Kaguya > Rinnegan and Sharingan

Byakugan /> Rinnegan or Sharingan
 

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If you're honestly saying this after reading my response, then you're incapable of logical conclusion and aren't worth the time it would take to explain it all again.

Kaguya > Rinnegan and Sharingan

Byakugan /> Rinnegan or Sharingan


Its cool, if you can't keep up with something as simple as this than I won't further complicate it for you.

Thanks for your particiiation tho ;)
 

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You don't need two equal characters, just add the Dojutsu you are comparing to the base state of one character. We know how they affect the user's power so it's easy to gauge which one would be stronger. Example:

-Neji w/ Byakugan vs. Neji w/ MS.


In the Neji situation its likely a stalemate in my op.

Sharingan specializes in creating jutsu where as Byakugan specializes in destroying it.

My op is that the 2 are opposites of each other and the victor in battle would be determined by the users themselves.
 

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  1. Rinne Sharingan
    [*]Sasuke's Tomoed Rinnegan
    [*]Hagoromo's Rinnegan
  2. Madara's Rinnegan
  3. Madara's EMS
  4. Sasuke's EMS
  5. Itachi's MS/Shisui's MS
    [*]3T Sharingan
    [*]Shin's MS
    [*]2T Sharingan
    [*]Byakugan/1T Sharingan

@ bold huh???...lololololol
 

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BY Feats
1. Rinne-Sharingan
2. Rinnegan and its variation/EMS
3. MS/Tenseigan
4. Other MS/3T Sharingan/ Jyuuken Byakugan (relevant Hyuuga)
5. Other Sharingan/Jyuuken-less Byakugan (Ao, other Hyuuga)
 

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Itachis MS > your fav
 

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  1. Rinne Sharingan
  2. Sasuke's Tomoed Rinnegan
  3. Hagoromo's Rinnegan
  4. Madara's Rinnegan
  5. Madara's EMS
  6. Sasuke's EMS
  7. Itachi's MS/Shisui's MS
  8. 3T Sharingan
  9. Shin's MS
  10. 2T Sharingan
  11. Byakugan/1T Sharingan

Exactly
 

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Rinne Sharingan
Rinnegan/Tenseigan
EMS
MS
3T Sharingan/Byakugan
 
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