[VS] Doflamingo vs Kidd Alliance

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Parasite didn't play a role against Law. I don't see why it'd play a role here

By your logic u said zoro and law r even well Sanji

Who is (by your logic) should not be that far from them do to the constant rivalry showed between their enemies an each other (bar new world cuz neither straw hat bar luffy has gone all out yet )
Yet Sanji got into parasite

Jozu who is above all of these chars fell into it in mid combat while blood lusted after croc attacking whitebeard while trying to save his brother

So again even if u think appo and Hawkins (which is bullshit but to each is own) is stronger then law (and potentially zoro they can be stronger then him but not law he has too much relevance to the story and I fail to c how either char would beat him) they should not be on the level higher of Jozu so why wouldn't it work on them ?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Apoo's sound based techniques can probably tore the threads of. Kid's magnetism can maybe destabilize it. There is always a way for Oda to make it irrelevant. Oda never made parasite relevant in high level fights where the opponent isn't distracted, so that must mean that he views it as an irrelevant technique that could be countered one way or another by a certain level of opponents. He'd only make it work against weak level opponents

The only thing that actually broke doffy threads at any time during the fight was gear 4th

Not the metors
Zoro attacking it
Barto barrier etc (talking bout bird cage with these guys)

So unless ur saying appo has his destructive bomb thing he does with his music on the level of of gear 4th then I don't c why it would destroy them ... Not to mention why would appo have stronger haki then doffy ? (Cuz I'm serious fight doffy most likely would make them haki laced..)

 

[Bogard]

Anyone who isn't stupid would have realized that i meant Hawkins+Apoo+Killer(as a group) was superior to Zoro+Law(as a group). I never compared them individually

It worked against Sanji. And I rank Sanji and Apoo around the same strength. How is Apoo even playing his fluit when he can't move his arms an inch? It worked against base Luffy and by no means is he weak..as far as raw power goes he most likely is above Apoo , Kid and Killer, even in base and seemingly the 1 thing that is needed to overpower parasite is raw strength, OP DF's have no use if can't utilize them. The alliance is just unlucky in this situation.

Is Apoo forced to move to use his music? Not sure. To me Apoo is superior to Sanji. Doflamingo could only block Sanji without making him move, and that was without knowledge, so i think people higher than Sanji could counter it. But if you do consider Apoo comparable to Sanji, i guess i can understand your point. But eventhen, someone stronger like Kid(i suppose you rate Kid high) could maybe free him with his magnetic techniques(it's a team battle, let's not forget this). The Base Luffy that got caught into parasite was terribly weakened

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

U act as if the entire country didn't help luffy out when he was gassed out after 1st gear 4th ... Plot armor ...now please tel me what would have happened had doffy killed off luffy then how would the straw hats fare?

You act as if Doflamingo didn't take advantage of Bellamy in order to stall Luffy and also weaken him, and you act as if Doffy had no help from Trebol.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

You act as if Doflamingo didn't take advantage of Bellamy in order to stall Luffy and also weaken him, and you act as if Doffy had no help from Trebol.

Honestly what did Trebol do because I honestly don't remember him doing anything significant except get in laws way a couple of toes before getting neg diff by him... Similar to those civilians helping taking luffy away and taking hits from doffy

and doffy ( not fully) but parasited bellemy for. A part of that fight ... So he was using his own power to do that so its not if bellemy (again not fully)

Bellemy in a sense is the same as viola got in someone's way who outclassed them by margins

So again no matter how u try to spin it luffy def had more help on his end

And he had a legitimate rest whereas doffy didn't have any... Again any damage of the. Ppl doffy (what u say) used pales in comparison to what gamma knife did to him... Also none of this guys were able to take him away for the fight To recoperate after getting hit with let's say gamma knife or even the first gear fourth unlike luffy....

So yes while Trebol was present I honestly don't remember him doing anything significant ... And bellemy didn't do shit to luffy and even if it was barely surface damage if u want to take it that far and again pales in comparison to what luffys help did to doffy

Yet some ppl (not u specifically macho) act as if luffy did it on his own and don't even began to look at how much help it took to defeat doffy..