Does the Naruto Manga have Plotholes?

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1)What was Kaguyas Goal?
2)Where did she come from?
3)Why she needed an army?
4)Purpose of the Sage tools?
5)Orochimarus true motives for attacking the village?
6)What happened to Madaras body?
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The story itself only has few mere plot holes here and there, it's mostly the abilities and the outcomes of very similar action being inconsistent or illogical. Plus contradiction
 
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White Zetsu spores are ejected from the body when said body takes in Natural Energy.
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Kabuto had a White Zetsu placed within him
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The White Zetsu wasn't removed when Kabuto entered Sage Mode. Either Kabuto removed them beforehand, or he somehow forced them to stay within him, assuming he sensed it at all. Either way, it's something that was never explained and forgotten about.
 
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So many. Why didn't Obito steal Naruto as a kid for starters.
 

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Yeah of course it does. It's also funny that people try to "fix" it.
 

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1)What was Kaguyas Goal?
2)Where did she come from?
3)Why she needed an army?
4)Purpose of the Sage tools?
5)Orochimarus true motives for attacking the village?
6)What happened to Madaras body?
etc

Have all chakra
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Because even her subordinates could get a shinju(Momoshiki and Kinshiki)
Seal shit and look good
Bruh was salty he couldn't be hokage and wanted to be kony/mad scientist
Madaras body probably got covered in dust when indras arrow and the rasenshurikens collided or was disposed of off panel
 

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White Zetsu spores are ejected from the body when said body takes in Natural Energy.
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Kabuto had a White Zetsu placed within him
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The White Zetsu wasn't removed when Kabuto entered Sage Mode. Either Kabuto removed them beforehand, or he somehow forced them to stay within him, assuming he sensed it at all. Either way, it's something that was never explained and forgotten about.

Finally someone finds something close to an actual plot hole
 

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One that I could never really get my head around was:

Why did Sasuke graduate from the academy at the same time as Naruto, the dead last, when he was a genius?
 

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A lot of what kishi says in the manga cant happen does happen in the war arc: kakashi spamming kamui even tho he barely could do one against diedera, naruto not dying from bijuu extraction like gaara and making up some lame excuse why, obito saying that he had moments to live after bijuu extraction yet helped out naruto sasuke and kakashi for a good half hour or so, madara being called the strongest ever and dying to a fodder,etc
 
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Kurama said that because of Obito being the Juubi Jinchuriki, he wouldn't die just like how Hagoromo didn't died after he split all its Chakra.
In other words if the Juubi gets extracted from you, you don't die.
 

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Plot hole is majority on Otsutsuki
 

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Finally someone finds something close to an actual plot hole

Not really a plot hole tho. If he's able to research the spores on sasuke(info oro aquired through him) he should know about the spores on himself.
 

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Not really a plot hole tho. If he's able to research the spores on sasuke(info oro aquired through him) he should know about the spores on himself.

At most, a plot hole. At least, a plot point that was brought up then totally abandoned. We never saw Kabuto do anything with his own spores, so, to the reader's knowledge, they should still be with him. But they obviously vanished somehow without explanation.
 

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1)What was Kaguyas Goal?
2)Where did she come from?
3)Why she needed an army?
4)Purpose of the Sage tools?
5)Orochimarus true motives for attacking the village?
6)What happened to Madaras body?
etc

Learn what a plot hole is. These are not plotholes.

White Zetsu spores are ejected from the body when said body takes in Natural Energy.
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Kabuto had a White Zetsu placed within him
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The White Zetsu wasn't removed when Kabuto entered Sage Mode. Either Kabuto removed them beforehand, or he somehow forced them to stay within him, assuming he sensed it at all. Either way, it's something that was never explained and forgotten about.

Quite observant and you seem to be right, but clearly such a scenario where the Zetsu are expelled from Kabuto when he entered sage mode would have been a wasted plot point. By that I mean going through the effort of trying to explain that while setting up a battle as important as Kabuto vs. Sasuke and Itachi would not have been worth it.

Not to mention, keep in mind Kabuto was double crossing a double crosser. Tobi thought Zetsu could keep the presence of the spores unknown to Kabuto, but clearly Kabuto knew about them. If he knew, and didn't wish to be burdened by them later, all he has to do is negate the effectiveness of the spore manually. If they have no chakra to begin with, Zetsu might not have knowledge of the spores being deactivated until he manually tried to activate them himself.

In short? Kabuto deactivated the hibernating spores and rendered them useless. Knowing the spores contained no traceable chakra, its logical to assume that once Zetsu plants them on a target, he has no perception of whether or not they will properly activate until he tries.

If it have then can someone tell me cause honestly o don't find any

Technically? There aren't any true 'plot holes' after the manga ended, but there was some serious levels of inconsistency that went on over time. Most of this can be chalked up to Kishi retconning things over the years and simply perfecting details and plot points. That doesn't, however, mean he negated all inconsistency, rather that is what created a great deal of it.

Take edo Tensei for example. Kabuto distinctly explained it here:

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This directly shows the prep time needed for Edo Tensei. It means that the target isn't simply summoned straight into battle, the caster has to manually prepare the edo beforehand. Clearly that was not the case with Oro's variation of the jutsu:

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Oro clearly just straight up summoned them with no prep time. The third summon failed because MInato was in the belly of the Shinigami, but if prep time was required than Oro would have discovered this flaw in the jutsu during his prep time, rather than on the field of battle. Kishi even attempts to retcon it here, but fails miserably because as I said before, Oro was skipping the prep time stage entirely:

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In this case, its entirely possible to interpret the 'prep time' stage to be a retcon that Kishi developed, so its not entirely a plot hole but a serious inconsistency for sure.

There are a great deal of examples out there but this is, by far, one of the most glaring.
 
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There are no real plot holes in Naruto, from what I know. It's usually just people calling their own misunderstandings plot holes.

Kurama said that because of Obito being the Juubi Jinchuriki, he wouldn't die just like how Hagoromo didn't died after he split all its Chakra.
In other words if the Juubi gets extracted from you, you don't die.

Not really. Kurama said that the Gedomazu's strong life force will keep him alive. Obviously, if both the GM and Bijuu get extracted you will end up dead.
 

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A lot of what kishi says in the manga cant happen does happen in the war arc: kakashi spamming kamui even tho he barely could do one against diedera, naruto not dying from bijuu extraction like gaara and making up some lame excuse why, obito saying that he had moments to live after bijuu extraction yet helped out naruto sasuke and kakashi for a good half hour or so, madara being called the strongest ever and dying to a fodder,etc

All those were explained. Kakashi got more experienced with Kamui and got some Chakra from Naruto.
Naruto inherited strong life force from Kushina and wouldn't die immediately.
Obito is just above Death as a whole. Whenever Death swings his scythe, Obito activates intangibility and lives a few more hours. Plus he had the Gedo Mazo.
Madara was called the strongest, but only by Madara, that man of infinite Hyperbole.
 
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