This right here^Depends on the end and the means. if the means are genocide and the end is cake, then no. Unless it is truly magnificent cake
Then who decides whether the means are justified or not? Is there an objective view on the whole thing or is it down to each individual and their values?Depends on the end and the means. if the means are genocide and the end is cake, then no. Unless it is truly magnificent cake
It comes down to the persons values/belief. There is no objective outlook where this particular subject is concerned as ultimately, it's a decision that must be weighed by the individual's own life experiences.Then who decides whether the means are justified or not? Is there an objective view on the whole thing or is it down to each individual and their values?
Then let's frame this discussion differently. What kind of person would value results over the way you get there?It comes down to the persons values/belief. There is no objective outlook where this particular subject is concerned as ultimately, it's a decision that must be weighed by the individual's own life experiences.
Down to the individual.Then who decides whether the means are justified or not? Is there an objective view on the whole thing or is it down to each individual and their values?
So the more you're a sociopath the more results-oriented you are.Down to the individual.
One who doesn't not value human life would commit genocide for a little snack.
While another person would think that the end, under any circumstances wouldn't justify the means.
I do believe most societies & our own personal morals have steered us all in a general right or wrong decision making direction though.
For instance, If a man ruthlessly kills an otherwise innocent woman, we see it as wrong. However if that woman had been torturing kids & literally slitting new born babies throats, then, majority if not all, would see her death as justified.
Because not every situation is not just black and white we only have general basis of right & wrong. There is no absolute wrong or absolute right. Those extra elements within situations can skewer our veiw point.
Stick to the topic and I forgot the h but stop being a grammar hoe."te end"?
You've got a case of Minamoto's. The only cure is...
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Relax, I'm only messing.Stick to the topic and I forgot the h but stop being a grammar hoe.
So the end justifies the means depending on the situation? You're saying it's all a matter of degree?Relax, I'm only messing.
You didn't give the scenario anyway. The mean and the end could be anything.
Probably, but ask yourself this.So the more you're a sociopath the more results-oriented you are.
However, you rob yourself of the happiness and pride obtained from getting those same results in a way that straight and true.
Absolutely.So the end justifies the means depending on the situation? You're saying it's all a matter of degree?
That person screwed themselves over in the long run because sooner or later it'll be made clear they don't belong wherever they end up afterwards.Probably, but ask yourself this.
If someone cheated on every test throughout highschool & got a full scholarship. Do you honestly think they give a damn about that small of pride lost? No, they made the necessary "sacrifices" to get the desired results.
I don't think you necessarily have to be a sociopath to think that way. Some people will always value results over morals. Look to the country of China for instance, results practically rule their entire society.
You need money to survive so it's the same thing as killing in self defense. You're protecting yourself in both situations.Absolutely.
Killing to protect justifies the means, but killing for money does not.
Not when you're in no financial difficulty. Believe it or not, affluent people have and do kill for more.That person screwed themselves over in the long run because sooner or later it'll be made clear they don't belong wherever they end up afterwards.
A house without a foundation is bound to collapse.
You need money to survive so it's the same thing as killing in self defense. You're protecting yourself in both situations.
What do you care. Just live on with your life and if you hurt someone I will be your judgement.Then who decides whether the means are justified or not? Is there an objective view on the whole thing or is it down to each individual and their values?
Actually nothing stops him from cheating all through college or getting his act together. Suppose he makes it through college then what? He's successfully cheated the system & there's nothing to be done about it.That person screwed themselves over in the long run because sooner or later it'll be made clear they don't belong wherever they end up afterwards.
A house without a foundation is bound to collapse.
You need money to survive so it's the same thing as killing in self defense. You're protecting yourself in both situations.
I do agree that it depends on the situation, though if you allow the end to justify the means to a degree, there will always be room to do that no matter how bad the means are.Not when you're in no financial difficulty. Believe it or not, affluent people have and do kill for more.