[Discussion] Does Sasuke have senjutsu?

[FreeTanner17]

We know he has hashi cells from kabuto, and he has the rinnegan + hagoromo chakra

So does that mean his attacks have a senjutsu edge to them? (obviously less than naruto)

What do you think?

Sasuke doesn't have hashiramas cells and neither did kabuto. He merely used the research from studying his cells to help heal sasuke

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[Mr Hiru]

He doesn't know how to use any form of sage mode. As far as we can see, he only knows how to adapt to natural energy, such as with Jugo's cursed mark, or his own when he was a kid. If you want to argue about him magically becoming a sage, I'd like to see some red rings around his eyes, or his body turn scaly, because he is not a Toad Sage, nor a Snake Sage. He has acknowledged, but not controlled.

And people here still are not able to prove that Sasuke can draw shizen energy to form senjutsu chakra for its later use.

They're just saying that he magically got senjutsu chakra from the sage... that's lack of reasoning at its purest state.

 

[FreeTanner17]

And people here still are not able to prove that Sasuke can draw shizen energy to form senjutsu chakra for its later use.

They're just saying that he magically got senjutsu chakra from the sage... that's lack of reasoning at its purest state.

Yeah, Naruto got so6p senjutsu from the sage but sasuke didnt. Sasuke got the rinnegan and some yin chakra i believe

 

[Mr SwizZz]

We know he has hashi cells from kabuto, and he has the rinnegan + hagoromo chakra

So does that mean his attacks have a senjutsu edge to them? (obviously less than naruto)

What do you think?

Stopped reading at that.

L.E.: to answer the title, even if he did have it, it would be a really shitty version of it. Even worse than Jiraiya's sensei incomplete sage mode

 

[Mr Hiru]

Yeah, Naruto got so6p senjutsu from the sage but sasuke didnt. Sasuke got the rinnegan and some yin chakra i believe

The best bet to find if Sasuke really got some ability to draw Shizen Energy without any Seal like the Curse Mark would be confirming it in the next chapters...

I'll wait for Sasuke to use Senjutsu moves, without the Moon Seal (which was an plausible hypothesis to justify the magical way he had to draw Shizen energy without having enough physical energy in his own body).

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

The best bet to find if Sasuke really got some ability to draw Shizen Energy without any Seal like the Curse Mark would be confirming it in the next chapters...

I'll wait for Sasuke to use Senjutsu moves, without the Moon Seal (which was an plausible hypothesis to justify the magical way he had to draw Shizen energy without having enough physical energy in his own body).

The seals were only needed to seal Kaguya, nothing more. Naruto and Sasuke still possess their abilities despite their seals being gone. So that is not relevant to the conversation at all.

Sasuke can use senjutsu as shown with his black chidori, but he probably cannot use senjutsu mode like hashi or naruto because he is not a nature type, but he can clearly sense nature chakra as proven in the recent chapter. So it's a good theory.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Well Sasuke was gifted/cursed with Juugo's body enzyme power aka "Sennin mode":

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Similarities between Juugo and Juuubi's minions :​

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Appearance:

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Body's modifications:

Juugo can shapes his hand in whatever weapon he wants, same with Juubi's clones.

Chakra's attack:

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^^ It is very similliar to this attack, but a lot weaker:

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^^ Inital form of Juubi cannon bijuudama in beam shape released

Nature energy:

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^^ Juugo constatnly absorbing nature energy and using nature force which made him go crazy

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^^ Juubi being made of nature energy...

Juubi is nature energy, now considering Hagoromo and Hamura inherited Juubi's chakra directly through their mother, kaguya it could be safe to say that Hagoromo/Hamura chakra is infused with small amount of nature energy:

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^^ proof that Hagoromo's chakra also has at least trail of nature energy infused in his chakra. It is also simmiliar state to Juugo's Sennin mode and as being ultimate state known as Senjutsu of six paths I believe it could absorb nature energy passively.

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^^ You only need nature energy to damage Juubi or Juubi Jinchurki.

It was never stated that Sage mode is needed. However Sage mode as special empowered state utlising all three energies physcial, Spiritual and natural which creates new empowered Sage chakra is best method to use:

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That how Sasuke's Chidori went black again:

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^^ Just like before in valley of the end battle when Sasuke used CS2:

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^^ That how Sasuke could hurt Madara:

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Summary : ​

• Hagoromo's chakra is imprinted with Nature energy/have trail of nature energy
• Juubi's chakra is imprinted which Hagoromo inherited since the birth
• Juugo's Sennin transformation is depowered/based on Juubi's chakra
• Sasuke has Hagoromo chakra while Naruto has Hagoromo's chakra balanced with Nature energy
• Sage mode is new empowered kind of chakra while "Sennin transformation" just mix chakra with added nature energy but the amount of nature energy added can not be controlled/decreased/increased and it can not be balanced with other energies.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

We have no evidence Sasuke has senjutsu on his own. He could control his curse mark, and use senjutsu chakra with juugo, but on his own he has no way to gather senjutsu chakra. He seemed to use it when he had the moon seal on his chidori but otherwise we haven't seen him use it.

So no. He doesn't have CM anymore so he doesn't have senjutsu. Maybe I'm wrong though, I'll wait and see if he ever uses it again.

 

[Mr Hiru]

The seals were only needed to seal Kaguya, nothing more. Naruto and Sasuke still possess their abilities despite their seals being gone. So that is not relevant to the conversation at all.

Sasuke can use senjutsu as shown with his black chidori, but he probably cannot use senjutsu mode like hashi or naruto because he is not a nature type, but he can clearly sense nature chakra as proven in the recent chapter. So it's a good theory.

Mister, you're missing the main point, clearly... I never said he can't use Senjutsu.

I said he can't draw Shizen Energy, because he depended on a Seal in the past to do so, the Heaven Curse Mark, and he doesn't have that seal anymore.

No Shizen Energy = No Senjutsu chakra production.

My reasoning is proven until this point. The problem I see is that people is discrediting the hypothesis of the moon seal playing a role as a replacement for the curse mark seal, letting Sasuke use Senjutsu temporarily, specially when Sasuke's features were shown before and/or after that moon seal was focused on panel. That's irrefutable. Anyways...

You and other people are saying that Sasuke is using Senjutsu. OK, explain the following thing: Where is the current device inside Sasuke that let him draw Shizen Energy for this purpose?

...or are Sasuke fans going to evade this question forever? You know, this is the only motive of why I don't fully believe in your reasoning is the lack of evidence right now, a black chidori won't hold by itself (the senjutsu chakra that Sasuke has might have been product of the moon seal, the or even something else the Sage gave him... and no, Rinnegan won't hold, Madara had to absorb Hashirama's Senjutsu chakra, so I already know Rinnegan can't be the case), also you don't have any evidence that suggest that Rikudou Powers magically let you draw Shizen Energy for later use. Ergo, too much conjecture for my taste.

Telling that the only purpose of the Moon Seal is to seal Kaguya is conjecture, and I already gave my reasons for this... it's your word against mine, an impasse. So explain it. I demand an explanation of "how" can Sasuke draw Shizen Energy without seals, knowing that he doesn't have a body to draw Shizen Energy as Naruto does (and yes, I have proof of this claim).

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Prove that Sasuke in the current context meets all requirements (even now without the moon seal), and your reasoning will hold water.

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PS: Don't get me wrong, people ...I can't discard the possibility of this theory being the case. But the main problem is that it's based mostly in conjecture rather than evidence. You can't tell things that may appear to be nonsense if you want credibility.

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The seals were only needed to seal Kaguya, nothing more. Naruto and Sasuke still possess their abilities despite their seals being gone.

...prove it. No evidence = No credibility.

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It's rather simple, really...

- Your claim is that Sasuke can use Senjutsu anytime with Rikudou Powers.
- My claim is that Sasuke can use Senjutsu... under the condition that he can draw Shizen Energy, which has not been proved in all cases (he just lost some of the Rikudou powers. Where is the proof that the Moon Seal did not have any other use rather than sealing Kaguya? Huh?).

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Mister, you're missing the main point, clearly... I never said he can't use Senjutsu.

I said he can't draw Shizen Energy, because he depended on a Seal in the past to do so, the Heaven Curse Mark, and he doesn't have that seal anymore.

No Shizen Energy = No Senjutsu chakra production.

My reasoning is proven until this point. The problem I see is that people is discrediting the hypothesis of the moon seal playing a role as a replacement for the curse mark seal, letting Sasuke use Senjutsu temporarily, specially when Sasuke's features were shown before and/or after that moon seal was focused on panel. That's irrefutable. Anyways...

You and other people are saying that Sasuke is using Senjutsu. OK, explain the following thing: Where is the current device inside Sasuke that let him draw Shizen Energy for this purpose?

...or are Sasuke fans going to evade this question forever? You know, this is the only motive of why I don't fully believe in your reasoning is the lack of evidence right now, a black chidori won't hold by itself (the senjutsu chakra that Sasuke has might have been product of the moon seal, the or even something else the Sage gave him... and no, Rinnegan won't hold, Madara had to absorb Hashirama's Senjutsu chakra, so I already know Rinnegan can't be the case), also you don't have any evidence that suggest that Rikudou Powers magically let you draw Shizen Energy for later use. Ergo, too much conjecture for my taste.

Telling that the only purpose of the Moon Seal is to seal Kaguya is conjecture, and I already gave my reasons for this... it's your word against mine, an impasse. So explain it. I demand an explanation of "how" can Sasuke draw Shizen Energy without seals, knowing that he doesn't have a body to draw Shizen Energy as Naruto does (and yes, I have proof of this claim).

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Prove that Sasuke in the current context meets all requirements (even now without the moon seal), and your reasoning will hold water.

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PS: Don't get me wrong, people ...I can't discard the possibility of this theory being the case. But the main problem is that it's based mostly in conjecture rather than evidence. You can't tell things that may appear to be nonsense if you want credibility.

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...prove it. No evidence = No credibility.

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It's rather simple, really...

- Your claim is that Sasuke can use Senjutsu anytime with Rikudou Powers.
- My claim is that Sasuke can use Senjutsu... under the condition that he can draw Shizen Energy, which has not been proved in all cases (he just lost some of the Rikudou powers. Where is the proof that the Moon Seal did not have any other use rather than sealing Kaguya? Huh?).

Kakashi used senjutsu, evidenced with his black chidori when obito gave him his chakra, enough said. All you need is the sage's chakra to use senjutsu. You have no proof that Sasuke lost some of his powers, if that were to be the case, then naruto would have as well, but clearly there is no evidence that either have lost any of their powers, so you're just doing baseless assumptions of Sasuke not being able to use senjutsu anymore just because he is not using it.

He is not using amaterasu, does that mean he lost that? No. He's not using enton-based arrows or projectiles, does that mean he lost that? No. The point being emphasized is just because someone isn't using an ability, does not mean they lost it.

The Sage took both of their seals after they used it on Kaguya, that further implies what their usages were for.

 

[Rikudou Sennin balls]

Sasuke has Rikudou's chakra which is composed of senjutsu. So like Naruto Sasuke will always be using senjutsu. Sasuke can't use sage mode tho. But Sasuke can sense senjutsu and can probably sense chakra too.

 

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He can manage senjutsu chakra.

But i am not sure if he has sage mode.

Sasuke susanoo adepted but its was jugos senjustu

 

[ministerC4]

Firstly, I'd like you guys to know.
Sasuke's Curse Mark, and Jug Boy's are different.
Jug Boy's is actually senjustu, but Sauce's is a bootleg filled with oro's chakra.
I would get mangaphax but lazy.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Kakashi used senjutsu, evidenced with his black chidori when obito gave him his chakra, enough said. All you need is the sage's chakra to use senjutsu. You have no proof that Sasuke lost some of his powers, if that were to be the case, then naruto would have as well, but clearly there is no evidence that either have lost any of their powers, so you're just doing baseless assumptions of Sasuke not being able to use senjutsu anymore just because he is not using it.

He is not using amaterasu, does that mean he lost that? No. He's not using enton-based arrows or projectiles, does that mean he lost that? No. The point being emphasized is just because someone isn't using an ability, does not mean they lost it.

The Sage took both of their seals after they used it on Kaguya, that further implies what their usages were for.

I have the winning hand in this argument. I'll gladly quote myself to clearify this discussion and end it in one strike.

PS: Don't get me wrong, people ...I can't discard the possibility of this theory being the case. But the main problem is that it's based mostly in conjecture rather than evidence. You can't tell things that may appear to be nonsense if you want credibility.

I previously said that I can't discard the possibility, but... you also can't tell it being true. Certainly, I can't say Sasuke can't use senjutsu since there is no definite evidence destroying this possibility. But also you don't hold the right to tell that Sasuke can do it always (or ever do it), because you also don't hold definite evidence of the origins of this feature (Sage's chakra is a very, VERY vague term as it is. You should say "Senjutsu chakra" OR "Rikudou chakra" in this context, and these two concepts are different. Senjutsu is composed by Physical, Spiritual and Natural Energy, while Rikudou Chakra has Indra and Ashura's chakra. A lot of fans are mixing the terms to get wrong conclusions. Sasuke don't have Senjutsu chakra as it is, he has Rikudou Powers, and of course, this is manga fact).

Now, if you deny this logic being the case... let me try a challenge for you.

You're claiming that a Black Chidori is a Senjutsu Move. Okay... answer the following questions please:

- Why doesn't Sasuke refer it as Senpou: Chidori?

> I know the answer would be in the lines of "Sasuke didn't know about Senjutsu until now", so assuming this is the case (even if I find this argument being bullshit, since he saw a lot of battles that used Senjutsu to some extent) I follow with the next question...

- Madara had as much knowledge as Sasuke before war about Senjutsu,

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and it was clearly stated that it was the first time Madara got a hold on this kind of chakra. How is that after becoming Jinchuuriki, Madara instantly started to use Senjutsu Moves (he refered it as Senpou:

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...let me be frank. I'm quite smelling that the black thunders of both Sasuke and Kakashi are not Senjutsu, but it holds some of the essence of Rikudou. The case of this black color being the result of Rikudou Powers is fact, since Sasuke stated he was using Rikudou Powers when creating the black thunders. He did not mention the word Senjutsu nor Senpou.

But if these moves were really Senjutsu, the case of Kakashi is easy to fill, because Obito had the Juubi inside, which is in essence, Senjutsu Chakra. But the case of Sasuke is not, because Sasuke doesn't have the Gedou Mazou inside... there is no Juubi, there is no Senjutsu Chakra.

Sasuke has Rikudou's chakra which is composed of senjutsu. So like Naruto Sasuke will always be using senjutsu. Sasuke can't use sage mode tho. But Sasuke can sense senjutsu and can probably sense chakra too.

...again, there is no proof of this being the case. Stop conjectures.

--- for both of you.

I'd recommend to not create baseless claims and refer them as true.

What I said is not true or false, but possible, just as your claims.

If you're going to say that my claims are false, bring definite evidence.

If you're going to say that your claims are true, bring definite evidence.

In any case, if you lack evidence, you're doing the infamous argument ad ignorantiam fallacy. 'nuff said.

 

[Zawerni]

You're claiming that a Black Chidori is a Senjutsu Move. Okay... answer the following questions please:

- Why doesn't Sasuke refer it as Senpou: Chidori?


- Madara had as much knowledge as Sasuke before war about Senjutsu,

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and it was clearly stated that it was the first time Madara got a hold on this kind of chakra. How is that after becoming Jinchuuriki, Madara instantly started to use Senjutsu Moves (he refered it as Senpou:

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...let me be frank. I'm quite smelling that the black thunders of both Sasuke and Kakashi are not Senjutsu, but it holds some of the essence of Rikudou. The case of this black color being the result of Rikudou Powers is fact, since Sasuke stated he was using Rikudou Powers when creating the black thunders. He did not mention the word Senjutsu nor Senpou.

But if these moves were really Senjutsu, the case of Kakashi is easy to fill, because Obito had the Juubi inside, which is in essence, Senjutsu Chakra. But the case of Sasuke is not, because Sasuke doesn't have the Gedou Mazou inside... there is no Juubi, there is no Senjutsu Chakra.

I wouldn't say Sasuke's Chidori isn't senjutsu just because he isn't referring to it as Senpou: Chidori.

In the case here, Minato told Naruto to add senjutsu to the Rasengan:

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However they didn't call it Senpou: Rasengan, just Rasengan:

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You're saying Madara's black lightning is senjutsu, but Sasuke and Kakashi's black lightning isn't, just because Madara said "Senpou" and they didn't?

Obito lost the Juubi and the Gedo Statue, so that doesn't do anything for Kakashi. If having the Juubi at some point gives a person senjutsu chakra, then that means the chakra Sasuke received from Hagoromo also had senjutsu in it, since Hagoromo was the Juubi's jinchuriki as well.

 

[Mr Hiru]

I wouldn't say Sasuke's Chidori isn't senjutsu just because he isn't referring to it as Senpou: Chidori.

In the case here, Minato told Naruto to add senjutsu to the Rasengan:

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However they didn't call it Senpou: Rasengan, just Rasengan:

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You're saying Madara's black lightning is senjutsu, but Sasuke and Kakashi's black lightning isn't, just because Madara said "Senpou" and they didn't?

Obito lost the Juubi and the Gedo Statue, so that doesn't do anything for Kakashi. If having the Juubi at some point gives a person senjutsu chakra, then that means the chakra Sasuke received from Hagoromo also had senjutsu in it, since Hagoromo was the Juubi's jinchuriki as well.

About Minato: You have a good point, but your evidence speaks by itself. To get in context with the comment you made: Minato at least asked Naruto to add Senjutsu chakra, so it is known as fact that this Rasengan is Senpou Rasengan, implicitely, So, IT WAS STATED THAT IT USED SENJUTSU. That destroys all possible doubts about this move being Senjutsu. End of argument.

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That Rasengan is obviously not black, does it? So the whole thing about the color in ninjutsu doesn't mean necessarily that it is Senjutsu. It only means that it isn't normal, it is special.

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About Kakashi, Obito and Madara... I'm speaking under the suposition that the process of extraction of Bijuu is complete at its fullest. Following this logic, let me elaborate.

About Madara:

Madara spoke about his jutsus as Senpou, so it doesn't leave space for doubt that he used Senjutsu. He obtained all bijuus chakra in order to awake himself as the TTJ. But even in the case of him not having the Rinnegan or Senjutsu of Six Paths, Madara had the Juubi's chakra (Senjutsu Chakra). These are facts, no space for baseless conjectures in this claim. So, we know why Madara can use Senjutsu.

About Kakashi: He used the remaining power of Obito. This is conjecture, but with solid basis.

About Obito: He lost his powers as TTJ after being defeated by Naruto (I'm using the assumption that he completely lost all the bijuu's chakra), but... you forgot a little big detail in here...

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...I guess this is proof enough that Obito really got the essence of Madara, or more importantly, of the Juubi, ergo, Senjutsu Chakra.

...by transitivity/inheritance, it's a fact that Kakashi used the power of the Ten Tails Jinchuuriki in order to use that "black thunder". Under this logic, Kakashi could have used Senjutsu because he had part of TTJ's power which Obito robbed from Madara.

This perfectly justifies the use of Senjutsu from Kakashi's part, not due him having Rikudou powers, but because he possesed a bit of the Juubi's Chakra.

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About Sasuke and Hagoromo:

- Impossible. Hagoromo completely extracted the Juubi from himself and divided it into ten creatures... the Gedou Mazou and the Bijuu. Telling that part of the Juubi stayed with him, is again, baseless conjecture. Furthermore, this claim of mine deserve some supporting evidence

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He used all the Juubi's chakra in the process, so there is no space for doubt in here. Juubi's chakra never reached Naruto or Sasuke when these two were near death. They only recieved Rikudou Chakra (Indra and Ashura's chakra).

 

[Zawerni]

About Minato: You have a good point, but your evidence speaks by itself. To get in context with the comment you made: Minato at least asked Naruto to add Senjutsu chakra, so it is known as fact that this Rasengan is Senpou Rasengan, implicitely, So, IT WAS STATED THAT IT USED SENJUTSU. That destroys all possible doubts about this move being Senjutsu. End of argument.

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That Rasengan is obviously not black, does it? So the whole thing about the color in ninjutsu doesn't mean necessarily that it is Senjutsu. It only means that it isn't normal, it is special.

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About Kakashi, Obito and Madara... I'm speaking under the suposition that the process of extraction of Bijuu is complete at its fullest. Following this logic, let me elaborate.

About Madara:

Madara spoke about his jutsus as Senpou, so it doesn't leave space for doubt that he used Senjutsu. He obtained all bijuus chakra in order to awake himself as the TTJ. When he used these moves, he had "both the Senjutsu of Six Paths and Rinnegan". These are facts, no space for baseless conjectures in this claim.

About Kakashi: He used the remaining power of Obito. This is conjecture, but with solid basis.

About Obito: He lost his powers after being defeated by Naruto, but... you forgot a little big detail in here...

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...I guess this is proof enough that Obito really got the essence of Madara, or more importantly, of the Juubi.

...by transitivity/inheritance, it's a fact that Kakashi used the power of the Ten Tails Jinchuuriki in order to use that "black thunder". Under this logic, Kakashi could have used Senjutsu because he had part of TTJ's power which Obito robbed from Madara.

This perfectly justifies the use of Senjutsu from Kakashi's part, not due him having Rikudou powers, but because he possesed a bit of the Juubi's Chakra.

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About Sasuke and Hagoromo:

- Impossible. Hagoromo completely extracted the Juubi from himself and divided it into ten creatures... the Gedou Mazou and the Bijuu. Telling that part of the Juubi stayed with him, is again, baseless conjecture. Furthermore, this claim of mine deserve some supporting evidence

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He used all the Juubi's chakra in the process, so there is no space for doubt in here. Juubi's chakra never reached Naruto or Sasuke when these two were near death. They only recieved Rikudou Chakra (Indra and Ashura's chakra).

I wasn't saying there was any doubt on that Rasengan being senjutsu. I was pointing out that it was still a senjutsu Rasengan despite them not calling it Senpou: Rasengan.

The same can be said for Sasuke's Chidori. Both he and Naruto knew that only senjutsu would work on Madara. Which is why when he told Naruto to use Rikudou power to attack Madara, he said he would also use that power. If Sasuke's black Chidori wasn't senjutsu then he would have no reason to try using it, since he knew it would be useless.

So, even though he doesn't explicitly call it Senpou: Chidori, it is still a senjutsu Chidori.

Those two scans of Obito and Madara were Obito taking a piece of the One Tail and Eight Tails to give to Naruto. That's all he was able to take, and only barely.

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And that chakra he took went into Naruto along with Yin Kurama.

Obito had the Tailed Beast chakra pulled out of him, then he had the Gedo Mazo taken from him. He lost the chakra and the body of the Ten Tails. So Kakashi didn't get any of the Ten Tails' chakra, but the Rikudou chakra Obito had left as he states:

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If he was using the power of the Ten Tails Jinchuriki, then Sasuke must have been using that same power for his black Chidori, which would also be senjutsu.

You're saying one thing is possible for Obito, but the same thing is impossible for Hagoromo, which doesn't make sense. Both of them had the Ten Tails completely extracted from them.

 

[Mr Hiru]

You're saying one thing is possible for Obito, but the same thing is impossible for Hagoromo, which doesn't make sense. Both of them had the Ten Tails completely extracted from them.

Agreed to the paragraphs previous to this.

I stated that I supposed the bijuus were extracted from Obito, completely. Agreed.

But: I did clearly say afterwards, Obito extracted part of Madara's chakra. I never told that Obito completely gave all chakra to Naruto.

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You should know the difference between extraction and transferral. Obito had the option to choose until which point he would give chakra. If he gave it all, he would have died, wouldn't he?

Furthermore, even I don't know what happened with the Gedou Mazou's Arm in Kamui's dimension.

Anyways... I guess this should explain my position referred to Obito's remaining power.

 

[Zawerni]

Agreed to the paragraphs previous to this.

I stated that I supposed the bijuus were extracted from Obito, completely. Agreed.

But: I did clearly say afterwards, Obito extracted part of Madara's chakra. I never told that Obito completely gave all chakra to Naruto.

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You should know the difference between extraction and transferral. Obito had the option to choose until which point he would give chakra. If he gave it all, he would have died, wouldn't he?

Furthermore, even I don't know what happened with the Gedou Mazou's Arm in Kamui's dimension.

Anyways... I guess this should explain the logic in my words.

Obito should have been dead after losing the Ten Tails and using Rinne Tensei. The only reason he was still alive was because Black Zetsu was attached to his body keeping him alive.

There is no evidence that Obito kept some of the Bijuu chakra for himself. So unless otherwise stated, it was all given to Naruto.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

There really is no need to discuss this further beyond the facts.

Sasuke only has the ability to meld Senjutsu given to him by outside sources other then his own, he has 0 training or ability on how to gather nature energy but only to use whatever is synced or given to him by others.

Juugo
Naruto

Sasuke cannot use Sage Mode.
Sasuke cannot gather Nature Energy.

I think it should be pretty clear by now.