Does Sasuke have Perfect Susanoo?

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this thread is nonsense.

your reasons are just desperate reaching attempts. it is impossible to reach such a conclusion unless you are reading the manga with bias.

a "logical explanation" isnt needed. sasuke can use PS because his ocular abilities are great enough that he can use it.
 

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Troll bait harder.


ot- he has it, this is like saying naruto doesnt have SM at this point.


It has been shown/compared to madara and what he did.



Its been confrimed that EMS grants PS ability
 

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this thread is nonsense.

your reasons are just desperate reaching attempts. it is impossible to reach such a conclusion unless you are reading the manga with bias.

a "logical explanation" isnt needed. sasuke can use PS because his ocular abilities are great enough that he can use it.
First of all, it wasn't a statement. You'd know if you read the thread properly. Second, I don't read the manga with bias. If you read the thread, you'd see I provided evidence. Third, a logical explanation is needed. Kishi doesn't give out such massive power-ups without any reason, 'ocular abilities are great enough that he can use it' doesn't cut it.
 

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First of all, it wasn't a statement. You'd know if you read the thread properly. Second, I don't read the manga with bias. If you read the thread, you'd see I provided evidence. Third, a logical explanation is needed. Kishi doesn't give out such massive power-ups without any reason, 'ocular abilities are great enough that he can use it' doesn't cut it.
in your own op it proves that kishi is saying sasuke has
PS


you've got to be joking
 

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While Sasuke does have it, it could be because he hasn't fought that seriously since he has had ems up until that fight. He only supported Itachi in the fight against Kabuto.

I do understand where you are coming from, but I respectfully disagree.
 

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I'm sorry, where?
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Also you left out the manga scans were sasuke said he had to adjust/ lower his charka to fit naruto.


Naruto's cloak does not grant new abilities.



Naruto was clueless about PS. Sasuke said he was holding back from the start
 

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I hate how people always say Naruto's chakra gave Sasuke that Susano'o, when Naruto's chakra only strengthens jutsu, it's never changed their form.

If you want to make the argument that Sasuke's PS isn't as strong as we saw it then fine, but he most definitely does have PS, or at least a smaller form of it.
 

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I hate how people always say Naruto's chakra gave Sasuke that Susano'o, when Naruto's chakra only strengthens jutsu, it's never changed their form.

If you want to make the argument that Sasuke's PS isn't as strong as we saw it then fine, but he most definitely does have PS, or at least a smaller form of it.
In this case, strengthening jutsu = strengthening Susanoo. A strengthened Susanoo is a Susanoo which is higher in it's versions. Sasuke's Susanoo went from V4 to Perfect Susanoo. I'm not sure how people don't see this.
 

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In this case, strengthening jutsu = strengthening Susanoo. A strengthened Susanoo is a Susanoo which is higher in it's versions. Sasuke's Susanoo went from V4 to Perfect Susanoo. I'm not sure how people don't see this.
idk what logic your using but in that manga scan that i posted, which you ignored, which was in your on op.


states that sasuke does indeed have PS.

EMS ability = PS

once again kurama's cloak does not give new abilites, they bost the ones already posessed

this isnt hard to comprehend
 

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Why are you still fighting it?
Its been proven that BSM heals only naruto.
Sasuke has clear smudges after dropping PS.
His shirt got less smudges just like his face.

Face the fact already!
 

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idk what logic your using but in that manga scan that i posted, which you ignored, which was in your on op.


states that sasuke does indeed have PS.
No it doesn't; 'this is similar to how Madara did it in the past.'

EMS ability = PS
Has EMS here, no PS.
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Madara has EMS here, no PS.
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once again kurama's cloak does not give new abilites, they bost the ones already posessed
Sasuke already had Susanoo and Kurama's chakra boosted his Susanoo.
this isnt hard to comprehend
It sure isn't.
Why are you still fighting it?
Its been proven that BSM heals only naruto.
Sasuke has clear smudges after dropping PS.
His shirt got less smudges just like his face.

Face the fact already!
Kakashi being in Kurama's Avatar allowed him to Kamui the Hachibi.
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'In the mean time, give me that 'Gai' guy! Need to patch him up! You too, Naruto and Kakashi!' Gai, Kakashi and Naruto then start to heal while being in Kurama's Avatar.
 
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No it doesn't; 'this is similar to how Madara did it in the past.'


Has EMS here, no PS.
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Madara has EMS here, no PS.
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Sasuke already had Susanoo and Kurama's chakra boosted his Susanoo.

It sure isn't.
lol im done.


your just going to remand one of the few ppl who seems to want to hold on to whats already been proven wrong.


Sasuke has PS.

EMS Madara has PS when he fought hashirama.

accept it or dont.
 

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lol im done.


your just going to remand one of the few ppl who seems to want to hold on to whats already been proven wrong.


Sasuke has PS.

EMS Madara has PS when he fought hashirama.

accept it or dont.
Prove wrong? I haven't actually seen a single argument, which I've asked for, debunking my post.
 

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Kakashi being in Kurama's Avatar allowed him to Kamui the Hachibi.
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'In the mean time, give me that 'Gai' guy! Need to patch him up! You too, Naruto and Kakashi!' Gai, Kakashi and Naruto then start to heal while being in Kurama's Avatar.
They didnt heal, they still had the smudges. All that happened is that fatigue went off as their chakra got restored.
And now kakashi can kamui gedo so what? Madara had SM but was his susanoo bigger?
Wasnt you aware that legged susanoo was still there when kurama's cloak wore off? Means sasuke can make it on his own.
 

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All sasuke has right now is an unstabilized chakra susanoo with legs,and that is not a complete perfect susanoo with armor cloths and shield like madara's.sasuke susanoo is still naked and small compared to a real complete ps.
 

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The fact Orochimaru witnessed Sasuke's potential to surpass Madara after seeing V3 legged Susanoo, and never mentioned Naruto in Sasuke's growth is a proof Sasuke did indeed achieve PS on his own.

And like what AC said.
 
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There are people that STILL think this? 12-13 chapters later, that's over 13 weeks since there were breaks in between and people still think Sasuke can't make Perfect Susanoo on his own....

You can see he doesn't have Kurama's cloak there. However, I think people forget that being in Kurama's Avatar provides a significant boost in power and has healing properties, so essentially, it's the same as having Kurama's cloak. [X][X][X][X][X][X]

-Kakashi and Gai were completely exhausted.
-Both Kakashi and Gai started to recover once they were in Kurama's Avatar.
-Kakashi was able to both Kamui the Hachibi into the dimension and also release it.
-Kakashi states he was able to do this due to Kurama's chakra.
Most of this is wrong. The only thing that might be correct is that being in the avatar heals you, and even that may be false as Kurama says " ", though such a thing shouldn't have been stated if he was being auto healed the whole time. Sasuke didn't even heal, scuff mark differences aren't evidence enough considering Kishimoto isn't going to draw them consistently, especially when your two examples are from two different chapters.

Being in Kurama's avatar doesn't power up your jutsu, now that is pure fanfiction right there. I don't know where this idea came from anyway as it was the boost that Kurama gave him is what let him warp the Hachibi.

Can anyone tell me why they believe Sasuke has a legged Susanoo/PS without Kurama's chakra?
As someone already stated, its simply because his ocular abilities are great enough to let him use it, there is no other reason, especially not Naruto. The sheer fact that Naruto would directly influence Sasuke's growth in power is laughable anyway.
 
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