Does Sasuke have Perfect Susanoo?

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In this case, strengthening jutsu = strengthening Susanoo. A strengthened Susanoo is a Susanoo which is higher in it's versions. Sasuke's Susanoo went from V4 to Perfect Susanoo. I'm not sure how people don't see this.
This doesn't explain how Naruto's chakra magically changes Susano's form, when all it's been shown to do is heal and increase strength, not grant new abilities.
 

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One problem with your theory Touken. Logic does not apply to Uchiha powerups. This wouldn't be the first time Sasuke jumped a level mid-fight.

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So as stupid as this sounds, it's quite reasonable for Sasuke to receive a spontaneous power up since it's happened before.
 

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There are people that STILL think this? 12-13 chapters later, that's over 13 weeks since there were breaks in between and people still think Sasuke can't make Perfect Susanoo on his own....
I picked this up while reading past chapters. There's also the fact that 12-13 chapters later, Sasuke hasn't used Susanoo yet.

Most of this is wrong. The only thing that might be correct is that being in the avatar heals you, and even that may be false as Kurama says " ", though such a thing shouldn't have been stated if he was being auto healed the whole time. Sasuke didn't even heal, scuff mark differences aren't evidence enough considering Kishimoto isn't going to draw them consistently, especially when your two examples are from two different chapters.
Manga Stream's translation clearly says " " meaning it was done there and then. Scruff mark differences are the only evidence bearing in mind that Sasuke received no cuts from Obito's attack, and the chapters were only set 1 week apart. Add the fact that author's obviously go back to chapters when they're creating their new chapters to make sure there are no massive inconsistencies (plus other stuff).

Kurama saying "Need to patch him up!" can only mean that he intended on healing them by giving them chakra (and Kurama's chakra gives a power-up), since there's a clear cut correlation between healing and chakra being restored. to restore chakra due to being impaled by SZ's Mokuton. because he's on the verge of death.
Being in Kurama's avatar doesn't power up your jutsu, now that is pure fanfiction right there. I don't know where this idea came from anyway as it was the boost that Kurama gave him is what let him warp the Hachibi.
The idea came from K11 just by being in Kurama's Avatar. The initial boost Kurama's chakra gave to Kakashi started to wear off seeing as they started getting knocked around by the Juubi. [ ][ ]

As someone already stated, its simply because his ocular abilities are great enough to let him use it, there is no other reason, especially not Naruto. The sheer fact that Naruto would directly influence Sasuke's growth in power is laughable anyway.
It's laughable the fact that the main character of a shonen manga influenced the growth of another character?
Naruto X man said:
One problem with your theory Touken. Logic does not apply to Uchiha powerups. This wouldn't be the first time Sasuke jumped a level mid-fight.
Each time Sasuke gets an upgrade, Karin always states his chakra becomes colder and darker, as shown in those scans you provided.
 
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One problem with your theory Touken. Logic does not apply to Uchiha powerups. This wouldn't be the first time Sasuke jumped a level mid-fight.

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So as stupid as this sounds, it's quite reasonable for Sasuke to receive a spontaneous power up since it's happened before.
Thats natural susanoo evolution. Biju sized FRSs in KCM and SM is spontaneus
 

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While Sasuke has less marks on his face, he also has less marks on his clothes[sup] [/sup][sup] [/sup].

Does Kurama restore clothes? :mad:_@:
 

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One problem with your theory Touken. Logic does not apply to Uchiha powerups. This wouldn't be the first time Sasuke jumped a level mid-fight.

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So as stupid as this sounds, it's quite reasonable for Sasuke to receive a spontaneous power up since it's happened before.
do you believe what you just said?

if you do then i feel sorry for you.

EMS= grants PS basically, if you read manga you would know that.

we should be talking about how naruto gained KCM+BM w/o earning it
 

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do you believe what you just said?

if you do then i feel sorry for you.

EMS= grants PS basically, if you read manga you would know that.

we should be talking about how naruto gained KCM+BM w/o earning it

Not falling for troll bait. I feel sorry for you if you're too biased to realize that KCM and BM are earned.
 

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BM wasn't earned in the slightest. that is a textbook gift.

You're probably not trolling so I'll answer you. It is a gift to a certain extent, but Naruto had to train in order to use it to be as effective with it as he is now. So it is earned. Having control over massive chakra like Kurama's is a feat that even impresses Sasuke.

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Can't deny that a lot of Naruto's effectiveness comes through skill.
 

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You're probably not trolling so I'll answer you. It is a gift to a certain extent, but Naruto had to train in order to use it to be as effective with it as he is now. So it is earned. Having control over massive chakra like Kurama's is a feat that even impresses Sasuke.

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Can't deny that a lot of Naruto's effectiveness comes through skill.
how is that training? kurama was kind enough to allow him use of sage mode.
 

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Tengu nose/PS head
- PS shoulder blades
- Fact that Madara was PS when he coated 100% Kurama due to the presence of PS-specific mountain range slicers.
- Sasuke claiming its the same thing madara did before​

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All of this are a clear prove of Sasuke having the Perfect Susano'o...​
 
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Tengu nose/PS head
- PS shoulder blades
- Fact that Madara was PS when he coated 100% Kurama due to the presence of PS-specific mountain range slicers.
- Sasuke claiming its the same thing madara did before​

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All of this are a clear prove of Sasuke having the Perfect Susano'o...​
You didn't read the thread, did you?
 

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Naruto was shocked to see what Sasuke had already done, if it were linked to Kurama, then Naruto's surprise would have come just as he was starting to manifest it.

That aside, the peeling skin effect, armoured plates and Tengu nose tell us this is Perfect Susano'o. (Latter statement not directed directly towards your original post.
 

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Naruto was shocked to see what Sasuke had already done, if it were linked to Kurama, then Naruto's surprise would have come just as he was starting to manifest it.
Naruto's surprise was more to do with what Sasuke was actually doing; wrapping Susanoo around his Kurama Avatar. He didn't know such a thing could happen.
 
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