Does Samehada make Hachibi > Kyubi
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Naruto can't control the 9-tails, he just sealed it and is using his powers now. The Yin part of the 9-tails is inside the death god also.
Killerbee is stronger right now because he has full control over all of 8-tails' powers and he has the Samehada which made Kisame a "jinchuuriki without the tails". It basically made him invincible by healing deadly wounds and Kisame's strength would increase depending on who his opponent was due to chakra absorption powers.
There's no doubt that Naruto will pass him though!
veggetta13
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I really like the ideas and concepts brought into the story by Samehada, the only issue I find about it is that as once said by Deidara to Sasori, that's basically as carrying a moving bullseye with you. The enemy would pin immediately the sword to be taken.
But, it's a huge asset
But, it's a huge asset
How can Naruto become more powerful than that. I don't think people are giving Bee enough credit for how powerful he is right now. He has the Hachibi whichj is probably half the strength of the Kyubi PLUS Samehada which could be considered more powerful than the hachibi seeing as how it drained him almost completely out of chakra. Even if Naruto manages to match Bee's level of control over the Kyubi (which he probably wont due to them being on unfriendly terms), there is no way that he will be able to match the raw firepower that Bee has right now
P. S. I dont see this power up lasting very long for Bee as Suigetsu will probably aquire Samehada in the near future
BigTDogg220
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How will Naruto become more powerful? The answer is simple through jutsu and his Sage Mode. Once Naruto learns the tailed beast bomb through rasengan and makes it complete with the controlled jinchuriki and sage mode, Naruto will eventually become stronger than Killer Bee. If that answer isn't good enough the manga is named after him and he'll be the strongest.
Also there is no way Suigetsu gets Samehada while Killer Bee is alive. Now once Killer Bee's dead Samehada should be up for grabs.
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BigTDogg220
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It would be sweet to see Killer Bee and Naruto tearing through swarms of Zetsu's and being able to restrain the Impure World Resurrection shinobi's all by themselves so they can seal their souls.
DaTrutHurtz
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well i think initially Bee> or equal to Naruto for the simple fact that he had complete control over his beast, I say or equal to because Naruto has Sage mode which Bee doesnt so that would give Naruto a boost in terms of power.
But as for Samehada i dont think it really gives Bee much of a boost because he doesnt have the experience with the sword like Kisame had.
The only good thing i would think Samehada would be able to do for Bee would be to give him chakra (which wouldnt really be necessary since Bee already has tailed beast amount nd we know not of another opponent that could drain Bee's chakra like Kisame did w/ Samehada).
But as far as fighting goes i think it would be best for Kisame to stick with the 8 swords style (He's a BEAST with them
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Ofcourse Naruto will eventually make use of what he can do with the 9-tails and surpass Bee even with full control of his beast.
But as for Samehada i dont think it really gives Bee much of a boost because he doesnt have the experience with the sword like Kisame had.
The only good thing i would think Samehada would be able to do for Bee would be to give him chakra (which wouldnt really be necessary since Bee already has tailed beast amount nd we know not of another opponent that could drain Bee's chakra like Kisame did w/ Samehada).
But as far as fighting goes i think it would be best for Kisame to stick with the 8 swords style (He's a BEAST with them
)Ofcourse Naruto will eventually make use of what he can do with the 9-tails and surpass Bee even with full control of his beast.
Naruto definitely has the potential to surpass Bee. He has massive chakra even without the Kyuubi, Sage Mode, and his new form with the Kyuubi's chakra.
Also, when he perfects his new Bijuu Rasengan I think he'll be able to, more or less, match Bee in his Hachibi form. Naruto can't use the Bijuu Ball so the whole point of learning the new rasengan is to find a way around that. Naruto already has immense chakra (New Kyuubi cloak, Sage Mode), so if he can master his new Bijuu Rasengan I think he'll be able to go toe to toe with Bee
What I want to know is if Naruto can do Sage Mode with his new Kyuubi cloak form at the same time. Sage Mode requires you to balance natural energy with your own, and since Naruto has control of the Kyuubi's chakra wouldn't that bring his Sage Mode to a whole new level? Maybe this has already been discussed, but now that the Kyuubi's trapped in another part of Naruto, would Ma and Pa be able to fuse with him?
If he can, then he totally can overpower Bee
Also, when he perfects his new Bijuu Rasengan I think he'll be able to, more or less, match Bee in his Hachibi form. Naruto can't use the Bijuu Ball so the whole point of learning the new rasengan is to find a way around that. Naruto already has immense chakra (New Kyuubi cloak, Sage Mode), so if he can master his new Bijuu Rasengan I think he'll be able to go toe to toe with Bee
What I want to know is if Naruto can do Sage Mode with his new Kyuubi cloak form at the same time. Sage Mode requires you to balance natural energy with your own, and since Naruto has control of the Kyuubi's chakra wouldn't that bring his Sage Mode to a whole new level? Maybe this has already been discussed, but now that the Kyuubi's trapped in another part of Naruto, would Ma and Pa be able to fuse with him?
If he can, then he totally can overpower Bee
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BigTDogg220
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I think it was already foreshadowed to happen.Naruto definitely has the potential to surpass Bee. He has massive chakra even without the Kyuubi, Sage Mode, and his new form with the Kyuubi's chakra.
Also, when he perfects his new Bijuu Rasengan I think he'll be able to, more or less, match Bee in his Hachibi form. Naruto can't use the Bijuu Ball so the whole point of learning the new rasengan is to find a way around that. Naruto already has immense chakra (New Kyuubi cloak, Sage Mode), so if he can master his new Bijuu Rasengan I think he'll be able to go toe to toe with Bee
What I want to know is if Naruto can do Sage Mode with his new Kyuubi cloak form at the same time. Sage Mode requires you to balance natural energy with your own, and since Naruto has control of the Kyuubi's chakra wouldn't that bring his Sage Mode to a whole new level? Maybe this has already been discussed, but now that the Kyuubi's trapped in another part of Naruto, would Ma and Pa be able to fuse with him?
If he can, then he totally can overpower Bee
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On the first link you can see Naruto can barely hold the rasengan up and on the second link he states that fact. We've already seen that in Sage Mode Naruto can pick up and slam the gigantic 9 tailed fox...So in order for Naruto to perfect the tailed beast bomb it seems that it's crucial that he mixes the controlled jinchuriki form with Sage Mode.
My thought here is that the two of them combine will decrease the drawbacks to each. The Kyuubi likely would have a difficult time absorbing the sage chakra (if that's how it works, I'm not too sure about that part yet) and the controlled jinchuriki form will likely help Naruto gather an enormous amount of Sage chakra, to the point that no one mentions Sage Mode running out (...it would be sweet if he could keep moving and absorb the chakra as well)
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: This is a Bijuu in the shape of a nine-tailed fox, and the strongest of them all. The reason he is so powerful is simple: Kyuubi has an unlimited amount of power, earning it the “King of Bijuu” title. The power is generated by Kyuubi’s Fire Seal, and as a result, after battling for 100 years with Yamata no Orochi (Hachibi),it becomes exhausted; but Kyuubi continues standing, able to fight. It is also pretty cunning and smart.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 4 times; All of them victories
Wins: Nekomata, Houkou, Raijuu, Yamata no Orochi
Fate: In unclear whereabouts, Kyuubi continues to kill all the people on his way to find the one who awakened him, and the one who managed to seal him before.
Myth Appearance: Kyuubi no Youko is the strongest Bijuu of the Japanese Myth. Its body has a red fur; Kyuubi represents the element of Fire. Its abilities are incredible. Because it has never been defeated, its total strength is unable to estimate. His tails create cyclones by spinning quickly, and Kyuubi proceeds to rip its enemies with its huge claws. At the same time his fur may shoot fireballs similar to meteorites endlessly, instantly destroying villages. In the ancient Bijuu wars, a challenge results in Houkou being severely wounded, and Nekomata nearly dying, The Kyuubi is an intelligent bijuu and has a scathing, sadistic personality. However he has also a sense of fairness and sarcastic honour.
Ability: Fire element attacks, Flaming claws, etc
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 1st
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 1st
Symbolic Element: Fire
In the Legend they both have the same strength with the Kyuubi having more stamina because of the fire seal.In Naruto half of his charka is sealed and we don't know if he has the fire seal yet.For now i think Samehada make Hachibi stronger,but i think Naruto will get the fire seal.
Frog key scroll-Fire seals to balance the Kyuubi yin and yang charka.Naruto's new seal markings 1 on his stomach,2 on his shoulders,and 2 on his feet.When he tried to transform into the fox the only marking that were visible were the seals.I believe that the fire seals draw power from the sealed half of Kyuubi's charka using a summoning Technique like the FTGT
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods: Battled 4 times; All of them victories
Wins: Nekomata, Houkou, Raijuu, Yamata no Orochi
Fate: In unclear whereabouts, Kyuubi continues to kill all the people on his way to find the one who awakened him, and the one who managed to seal him before.
Myth Appearance: Kyuubi no Youko is the strongest Bijuu of the Japanese Myth. Its body has a red fur; Kyuubi represents the element of Fire. Its abilities are incredible. Because it has never been defeated, its total strength is unable to estimate. His tails create cyclones by spinning quickly, and Kyuubi proceeds to rip its enemies with its huge claws. At the same time his fur may shoot fireballs similar to meteorites endlessly, instantly destroying villages. In the ancient Bijuu wars, a challenge results in Houkou being severely wounded, and Nekomata nearly dying, The Kyuubi is an intelligent bijuu and has a scathing, sadistic personality. However he has also a sense of fairness and sarcastic honour.
Ability: Fire element attacks, Flaming claws, etc
Bijuu Strength Ranking: 1st
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking: 1st
Symbolic Element: Fire
In the Legend they both have the same strength with the Kyuubi having more stamina because of the fire seal.In Naruto half of his charka is sealed and we don't know if he has the fire seal yet.For now i think Samehada make Hachibi stronger,but i think Naruto will get the fire seal.
Frog key scroll-Fire seals to balance the Kyuubi yin and yang charka.Naruto's new seal markings 1 on his stomach,2 on his shoulders,and 2 on his feet.When he tried to transform into the fox the only marking that were visible were the seals.I believe that the fire seals draw power from the sealed half of Kyuubi's charka using a summoning Technique like the FTGT
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Rambo200
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I think that Hachibi + Samehada > Kyuubi.
1. Hachibi is really strong.
2. Samehada has really great ability to take it's opponents chakra and give to it's wielder. It's not everythink yet. The fusion with samehada is really good too. You can sense chakra's and absorb them at the same moment.
3. Kyuubi has only half of it's power, because the another half is sealed within Shinigami.
But in case Killer Bee + Hachibi + Samehada vs Naruto + Kyuubi, I think the stronger one is Naruto.
1. Killer Bee himself is professional with swords and can use lighting.
2. Naruto is futon user and Sage too. He has many techiques and Sage mode increases those techniques power.
2.Once Naruto is in Kyuubi mode he can use black chakra of his Bijuu, chakra bomb and make more hands, legs or tails.
3. Naruto's skills + Sage Arts + Kyuubi mode is great power. You can sense chakra and if it's evil. Just think how great will be Naruto's chakra bomb. And just think about how great it will be with futon?
Naruto still has so much to learn and he is already really strong. I believe he is already stronger then Killer Bee. I think he will surpass all existing characters in the whole in anime. I have faith in him! lol.
1. Hachibi is really strong.
2. Samehada has really great ability to take it's opponents chakra and give to it's wielder. It's not everythink yet. The fusion with samehada is really good too. You can sense chakra's and absorb them at the same moment.
3. Kyuubi has only half of it's power, because the another half is sealed within Shinigami.
But in case Killer Bee + Hachibi + Samehada vs Naruto + Kyuubi, I think the stronger one is Naruto.
1. Killer Bee himself is professional with swords and can use lighting.
2. Naruto is futon user and Sage too. He has many techiques and Sage mode increases those techniques power.
2.Once Naruto is in Kyuubi mode he can use black chakra of his Bijuu, chakra bomb and make more hands, legs or tails.
3. Naruto's skills + Sage Arts + Kyuubi mode is great power. You can sense chakra and if it's evil. Just think how great will be Naruto's chakra bomb. And just think about how great it will be with futon?
Naruto still has so much to learn and he is already really strong. I believe he is already stronger then Killer Bee. I think he will surpass all existing characters in the whole in anime. I have faith in him! lol.