Does naruto need a new jutsu/power?

[kanesannin]

Oh and before you go around telling who can rape who, don't. I probably should'nt blame you, i doubt your educated and your way of arguing only proves that...............and who says naruto and killer bee will fight together against madara?

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

I never said bijuus were summons, just that the person who can control them would be able to summon them. Here madara 'summons' the 9 tails:

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Well at least you agree that a seal can be weakened after battles, i suspect ppl like sasuke and kabuto might weaken the seal if they fight naruto and then madara might have an opportunity to take over( i mean the strongest of the uchiha is no joke).
I disagree with you completely. No seal is perfect, the original seal on naruto was a VERY strong one( stronger than the one used on killer bee), and if that was weakened this new one might be too.

Getting back to the topic of the thread, i think naruto should learn the space time jutsu of his father like FTG and then improve on that.....

I didnt said that the seal cannot be broken. If someone beats up Naruto half-dead than you can brake the seal and extract beast from him.
I just meant that with that SO6P seal none besides Naruto could manipulate kyuubis chakra, that is until the seal is broken.

Oh and before you go around telling who can rape who, don't. I probably should'nt blame you, i doubt your educated and your way of arguing only proves that...............and who says naruto and killer bee will fight together against madara?

Keep your ingenious thoughts to yourself, I didn't insult you. And I don't see how your way of arguing is better than mine. I base my facts on solid proof while you're basing yours on words of a lier (Tobi) and speculations.

 

[kanesannin]

I didnt said that the seal cannot be broken. If someone beats up Naruto half-dead than you can brake the seal and extract beast from him.
I just meant that with that SO6P seal none besides Naruto could manipulate kyuubis chakra, that is until the seal is broken.



Keep your ingenious thoughts to yourself, I didn't insult you. And I don't see how your way of arguing is better than mine. I base my facts on solid proof while you're basing yours on words of a lier (Tobi) and speculations.

Well you are correct, my thoughts are ingenious.....there's nothing to disagree with in the first paragraph, thanks for stating the facts.

Your 'solid proof' is pictures of madara's ms/ems, is the 4th hokage also a liar?
I also quoted him, and if the seal can be weakened if naruto is half dead( what you just said), then consider this:

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.....and then:

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If naruto has control of the kyuubi now, sasuke has ems and, if not bringing him to the point of death(as predicted by naruto hope he's wrong), could easily bring him to a 'half dead' state( if they fought). So the seal would be weakened.......how can you say that madara is not a threat if he shows up at that time( after naruto and sasuke's fight)?

 

[JR4040]

naruto needs all the power he can get, from looking at the last 3 chapters, the best can die, so he needs alot of power!

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

If naruto has control of the kyuubi now, sasuke has ems and, if not bringing him to the point of death(as predicted by naruto hope he's wrong), could easily bring him to a 'half dead' state( if they fought). So the seal would be weakened.......how can you say that madara is not a threat if he shows up at that time( after naruto and sasuke's fight)?

Where did I say that? I said that if Tobi ALONE would encounter Naruto then he would loose to him. Dont forget that Bee is also with Naruto.

Just compare Naruto and Bee powers to Tobi's. Im sure you'll see my point of view.

Edit: You must be blind because I have mentioned couple of times already that someone will beat up Naruto, thus giving Tobi a chance to extract kyuubi from him.

 

[kanesannin]

Naruto already beat up Nagato who was a rinnegan user for 15 or 20 years and that's only Sage Mode. With kyuubi mode he's probably the fastest guy in shinobi world, period. Not to talk about his strength, resistance, chakra fists etc.
Madara can't control kyuubi. He's sealed with SO6P seal, noone can break that unless they beat up naruto till he passes out.

So, genius, explain to me how will Madara win against Naruto?

I never said naruto would fight madara one on one, i said madara was a major threat to naruto.How he will win will be by taking advantage of naruto when he is half dead after fighting sasuke.

I am blind? Well thats very offending coming from an illiterate like yourself.....................proof of your illogical arguments:
You just called me blind, and then ask me to' SEE' your point of view????

Getting back to the topic, even if madara fights one on one(now i am saying this) there is a good chance he may win with his superior knowledge of the rinnegan, but even if this point is ignored, is there any rule that says madara has to fight fairly(1 on 1)? He poses a huge threat, thats a fact and probably a bigger threat than anyone else, all im saying is that is a good reason for naruto to develop other jutsus. Its amazing that some people would have so many issues with a contention like that.....

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

I never said naruto would fight madara one on one, i said madara was a major threat to naruto.How he will win will be by taking advantage of naruto when he is half dead after fighting sasuke.

Jeez, I hate ignorant ppl like you. You only see what you want to see and you make up stuff just to feel better. You know perfectly what I mean you just have to point out something to have some arguments against me.

I am blind? Well thats very offending coming from an illiterate like yourself.....................proof of your illogical arguments:
You just called me blind, and then ask me to' SEE' your point of view????

I don't understand why you keep insulting me while I haven't insulted you. Maybe you're the one who is illiterate. Care to elaborate your thoughts on why I am illiterate/uneducated? Or maybe everyone who doesn't agree with you is an uneducated ape?

I said you must have been blind because you fail to read something that I have written couple of times already, and I said that AFTER I asked you to see my point.

He poses a huge threat, thats a fact and probably a bigger threat than anyone else, all im saying is that is a good reason for naruto to develop other jutsus. Its amazing that some people would have so many issues with a contention like that.....

Who are those ppl? Haven't seen anyone having any issues with contention like that.
I myself said that Naruto needs new powers and you agreed with that in your reply.
Oh, wait, I forgot already that you like to post random stuff to make yourself look better. Silly me

Edit : What is that "...................." of yours that you put in every reply? Perhaps you should educate yourself a little before calling others illiterate.

 

[kanesannin]

Jeez, I hate ignorant ppl like you. You only see what you want to see and you make up stuff just to feel better. You know perfectly what I mean you just have to point out something to have some arguments against me.



I don't understand why you keep insulting me while I haven't insulted you. Maybe you're the one who is illiterate. Care to elaborate your thoughts on why I am illiterate/uneducated? Or maybe everyone who doesn't agree with you is an uneducated ape?

I said you must have been blind because you fail to read something that I have written couple of times already, and I said that AFTER I asked you to see my point.

Edit : What is that "...................." of yours that you put in every reply? Perhaps you should educate yourself a little before calling others illiterate.

Nobody called you an ape. You have been called illiterate because:
1.You refuse to acknowledge that you were wrong, make blunt statements and when they are shown to be false you conveniently ignore them.
2.You use vulgarity in many of your posts
3.The way to prove someone wrong in an argument, is by fairly addressing the points they have made and logically proving them to be wrong, NOT by being dogmatic and using circular reasoning.

I have'nt the slightest clue what you could possibly mean by making up arguments, and i don't perfectly well know what you think you mean to be saying, don't assume things. If you think i'm ignorant than point out why, the only one making themselves feel better here is you. So far, all you have done is go on a feel good parade. Besides, no one is forcing you to post, so if there is that much of a problem, don't post.
No one will insult you unless you insult them first. If you have some reasonable opinions to share, then feel free to do so but only if you are willing to listen to the other person's points.
Yes you are silly, don't know what your last line means, but its called inverted commas.
P.s: learn english

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

Yes you are silly, don't know what your last line means, but its called inverted commas.
P.s: learn english

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Two or three dots is called inverted commas. Again, educate yourself before giving false advices to anyone.

Anyway, im done replying to you. It's a waste of time.

 

[Spartan117]

Yes my friend madara could potentially take over the 9 tails. As you've mentioned, the seal must be weakened first. It has been shown that the seal weakens when naruto is in a very tough fight( like against pain).Sasuke could push naruto to his limits, at that point even the best seal will be weakened.........what if madara shows up THEN?? Techniques like his father's space time jutsus would be of HUGE help at that point.

I seriously don't think it is Bro. If you look at the current seal naruto placed on the Kyubi is very strong. I think its the strongest. Fox recognised SO6P. I doubt seal can be weakened.

 

[kanesannin]

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Two or three dots is called inverted commas. Again, educate yourself before giving false advices to anyone.

Anyway, im done replying to you. It's a waste of time.

At any rate my english/logic is much greater than yours. That's a relief, it is a waste of time and the proper way to say it is:
educate yourself before giving false advice(without the s) to anyone. But i'll stop this pointless bickering, it is a relief to know my thread will be free of your negativity.

 

[kanesannin]

I seriously don't think it is Bro. If you look at the current seal naruto placed on the Kyubi is very strong. I think its the strongest. Fox recognised SO6P. I doubt seal can be weakened.

Perhaps you are right, but hey, madara did know quite a bit about the SO6P so maybe he knows something about the seal and how to weaken it.

 

[Spartan117]

Perhaps you are right, but hey, madara did know quite a bit about the SO6P so maybe he knows something about the seal and how to weaken it.

But then the arguement behind that is bro... Why did he wait so and so years for kushina to give birth so the seal can be weakened? If he has the knowledge SO6P on sealing then he should be ale to seal and unseal almost any seals? But, you know.... I doubt madara is as skillfull in fuinjutsu like Minato, jiraya and Kushina.

 

[kanesannin]

But then the arguement behind that is bro... Why did he wait so and so years for kushina to give birth so the seal can be weakened? If he has the knowledge SO6P on sealing then he should be ale to seal and unseal almost any seals? But, you know.... I doubt madara is as skillfull in fuinjutsu like Minato, jiraya and Kushina.

Minato thought very highly of madara, and kakashi once said that his space time jutsu exceeds the level of the 4ths. That's not the same as fuinjutsu i know, but madara was the leader of akatsuki and basically was the brains behind the sealing of the first 7 tailed beasts( gathering tailed beasts was his idea) and he has the gedo mazo statue that is capable of sealing the 9 tails with his rinnegan so i feel he knows more about seals than anyone...

My guess about his waiting for years is that he was weakened after fighting the 1st and was recuperating.......besides, bro im not saying collecting bijjus is easy even for madara just that what he did do on that night naruto was born, no one else could have done. Having knowledge is not the same as being able to use it, he had to wait for the time being right.
Hope that clears it up.