what do u guys think, Naruto against tobi who posses a sharingan probably ms or even ems also a rinnegan plus hasiramas wood release and at the same time battle the previous jinchiruki which are also endo tensie posses their biju wit a rinnegan and ms sharingan. Naruto we know is loosing control of the fox chakra bcus he has bin using the fox chackra for long, killer maybe there to support but can he do anything special beside what we have already see. What do u guys think
[Discussion] Does naruto have a chance
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They'll probably still be able to put up a good fight thou eh.:shrug:yeah I agree with everything else but aren't all the captured biju in the gedo mazo statue so the jinchuriki only have their ocular powers and abilities before their passing
It'll be a fight to look forward to. We don't really know the extent of Tobi's abilities, we haven't seen him fight yet. He has MS/EMS, Rinnegan, and possibly wood release. We just don't know what to expect. Altough I don't think anyone will be dying here. I think these are the possibilities.
1. Tobi captures Bee and incapacitates Naruto.
2. Tobi and Naruto reach a stalemate where neither can hurt the other.
3. Tobi is "killed" and comes back later to say he wasn't really killed.
4. Tobi is killed for real and Kabuto uses Edo Tensei on him.
Those are my guesses and all of them would make for a good battle.
Madara? Naruto is fighting Tobi, not Madara.
itachis sharingan is implanted in sasuske stil endo itachi stil had a sharingan also madara rinnegan is wit tobi but stil endo madara stil had his sharingan. So i tink the jinchiriku stil have their bijuu. Kabuto wont have go tru the trouble to bring them back if they dnt
Honord Sage
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Yea I think Naruto will have to retreat from this battle somehow. Or tobi might have to retreat against bee and naruto. Someone is goingto retreat, this big clash the series would end if this is keep on.
Bee may evenget captured to give naruto a chance to escape.
NAruto doesnt pull new jutsu out of nowhere, so since that jutsu hasnt been revealed in anyway he wont pull it out now. THis something sasuke tends to not naruto.
NAruto generally progressives his jutsu in surprises ways like doing a mini wind rasengan wit his figer, making a couple rasengans at once etc...
Hightly doubt we would see that jutsu now.
There are somethings like combining sage and fox modes togther. The fox alresdy has shown hes willing to help kill madara. So imagine we see sage mode + fox mode.
Also the tailed beast bomb since the fox is cooperating.
But even this isnt something new, naruto already did this briefly when first meet nagato face to face.
Naruto generally has training arks for completrely new jutsu before we see them in battle. That at least has been the patteren so far.
Bee may evenget captured to give naruto a chance to escape.
NAruto doesnt pull new jutsu out of nowhere, so since that jutsu hasnt been revealed in anyway he wont pull it out now. THis something sasuke tends to not naruto.
NAruto generally progressives his jutsu in surprises ways like doing a mini wind rasengan wit his figer, making a couple rasengans at once etc...
Hightly doubt we would see that jutsu now.
There are somethings like combining sage and fox modes togther. The fox alresdy has shown hes willing to help kill madara. So imagine we see sage mode + fox mode.
Also the tailed beast bomb since the fox is cooperating.
But even this isnt something new, naruto already did this briefly when first meet nagato face to face.
Naruto generally has training arks for completrely new jutsu before we see them in battle. That at least has been the patteren so far.
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i don't know abt naruto but i think that resurrected itachi will now fight sasuke (i wish he does so )
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Training:
I agree, I can't think of any major jutsu Naruto has used that he hasn't been shown training. Even the perfected FRS was shown, sort of, as it showed Naruto sweating in sage mode and sliced trees and mountains. Now Kishi has kept his most recent training under more wraps by simply using Killer Bee to simply say "yeah I taught him that" or "He learned that during my training" when referring to Naruto's new Rasengans or other moves in KM. The only WTF moment that comes to the top of my head is that Naruto can now enter sage mode in 5-10s, so he must've trained in sage mode as well as KM while in the isolation chamber. This eliminates the biggest weakness of sage mode followed by its finite duration. Thus, it's possible Naruto trained on "that jutsu" with Bee or behind Bee's back in KM, but Kishi never showed it, and unless he intends on showing flashbacks, I'd be surprised to see it in this battle, as new jutsu out of nowhere is more how Sasuke operates. I think Naruto's strongest jutsu in this battle will be whiffing on the TBB Rasengan a few times, getting insulted, finding his inner guts, and finally puling it off a few times... standard Naruto tactics, lol.
Tobi fight questions:
1.) The only thing is that all 5 Kage said "Win!" That indicates to me Naruto will win this fight, and it's a common plot device in other manga/anime as well as other writing. However, I'm wondering if Tobi is really the final villain, and "that jutsu" will be used against someone else like Sasuke or Kabuto. Further, how strong is Naruto right now do to his clones? He basically just received an exhausted clone back that was with the Kages I believe, so lets say that one basically started him short 5-10% chakra, where is he gonna be at between 1-1-[90-100]? Basically he got back the exhaustion and no chakra from releasing the jutsu; however, he needs to release the other clones to fight with as much power as he can for Tobi who cannot be held back against. I anticipate the Kyuubi going all in in this fight though, so I guess I'm not as worried about chakra. He won't give Naruto never ending access to the chakra, but for this fight I believe he will or multiple times he'll share his power. I think he'll prefer Naruto over Tobi just as he did over Madara, which isn't shocking since he'll cease to exist if Tobi gets him.
2.) Killer Bee will need to be at his best. He's incredible, but Naruto is on another level as is Tobi especially because of his experience and knowledge. Further, Bee will do anything to protect Naruto (see Naruto vs. Raikage), which sets up your possible Bee capture. This makes sense in some ways as Naruto gets whole, as does Tobi. The story recuperates. Having a surprise fight doesn't seem the way for Tobi and Naruto to settle things. Personally, I think Naruto caught Tobi off guard, and this fight will serve primarily for Naruto to figure out a lot about Tobi and his form of the six paths of Pain jutsu.
Re: Kyuubi:
I'm intrigued as to what the Kyuubi will say about Tobi. Will he recognize him as Madara? I know he shouldn't be Madara as his soul is in Edo Madara on another battlefield, but I wonder if something weird will be revealed through him such as, "This chakra is familiar but there's something wrong with it, I sense Uchiha Madara, but it's not him..."
As I said, I think the Kyuubi will give more and more to Naruto, as he realizes his options are limited. He has Madara and Tobi. Madara treats him horribly, Tobi wants to annihilate him for the Juubi resurrection, and Naruto has promised to never hurt him again. Thus, it's a pretty easy decision. However, I think the Kyuubi has major trust issues so it's still going to be a building process.
Re: TBB & TB II mode:
I don't really want to see the TBB anymore because that means Naruto going into TB II mode, which means looking like the Kyuubi quite possibly and shooting it out of his mouth like he has in his previous cloak modes. I'd rather him master the TBB Rasengan, unless that's what you were referring too, but he doesn't need the fox for that anyway. I hope TB II mode is an evolution of his current KM that makes him more like the Rikudou Sennin/younger son, and/or that fusion with sage mode does that.
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Going back to the original question does Naruto have a chance? That's insane right? Of course Naruto has a chance, and Minato planned for this 16 years ago, and so far so good with Naruto's development for 16 year old to take on the major villain Minato couldn't finish... His shadow clones that have about 5-10% of his power have been taking out Edo Kages. If Edo Kages and Kage level Shinobi (S-class worth of Kage position) counted on your list of Kages killed, Naruto might lead that list. Sure there's plot no jutsu involved in his fights more in some, less in others, but it's a story not an arcade fighter.
Personally, I wonder if Naruto will be the number one target if when Tobi sees Bee with Naruto depending on how well Naruto fights. If Naruto, with Bee present, becomes too difficult to deal with, I think Tobi will go after Bee and warp them out of there. If all 5 Kages didn't believe in Naruto, they wouldn't of let him fight Tobi, now's another chance for him to surpass his father the fourth Hokage, and I expect to do it, if not in this battle, than in a following one, where this one serves for each side to feel each other out and take conciliatory prizes.
Peace
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About the instant sage mode thing, only thing we have from the manga is that he said he wanted to extend sage modes duration just before he meet up with sakura when went to the kage summit. Not much to go but naruto has done something no idea what.Training:
I agree, I can't think of any major jutsu Naruto has used that he hasn't been shown training. Even the perfected FRS was shown, sort of, as it showed Naruto sweating in sage mode and sliced trees and mountains. Now Kishi has kept his most recent training under more wraps by simply using Killer Bee to simply say "yeah I taught him that" or "He learned that during my training" when referring to Naruto's new Rasengans or other moves in KM. The only WTF moment that comes to the top of my head is that Naruto can now enter sage mode in 5-10s, so he must've trained in sage mode as well as KM while in the isolation chamber. This eliminates the biggest weakness of sage mode followed by its finite duration. Thus, it's possible Naruto trained on "that jutsu" with Bee or behind Bee's back in KM, but Kishi never showed it, and unless he intends on showing flashbacks, I'd be surprised to see it in this battle, as new jutsu out of nowhere is more how Sasuke operates. I think Naruto's strongest jutsu in this battle will be whiffing on the TBB Rasengan a few times, getting insulted, finding his inner guts, and finally puling it off a few times... standard Naruto tactics, lol.
Tobi fight questions:
1.) The only thing is that all 5 Kage said "Win!" That indicates to me Naruto will win this fight, and it's a common plot device in other manga/anime as well as other writing. However, I'm wondering if Tobi is really the final villain, and "that jutsu" will be used against someone else like Sasuke or Kabuto. Further, how strong is Naruto right now do to his clones? He basically just received an exhausted clone back that was with the Kages I believe, so lets say that one basically started him short 5-10% chakra, where is he gonna be at between 1-1-[90-100]? Basically he got back the exhaustion and no chakra from releasing the jutsu; however, he needs to release the other clones to fight with as much power as he can for Tobi who cannot be held back against. I anticipate the Kyuubi going all in in this fight though, so I guess I'm not as worried about chakra. He won't give Naruto never ending access to the chakra, but for this fight I believe he will or multiple times he'll share his power. I think he'll prefer Naruto over Tobi just as he did over Madara, which isn't shocking since he'll cease to exist if Tobi gets him.
2.) Killer Bee will need to be at his best. He's incredible, but Naruto is on another level as is Tobi especially because of his experience and knowledge. Further, Bee will do anything to protect Naruto (see Naruto vs. Raikage), which sets up your possible Bee capture. This makes sense in some ways as Naruto gets whole, as does Tobi. The story recuperates. Having a surprise fight doesn't seem the way for Tobi and Naruto to settle things. Personally, I think Naruto caught Tobi off guard, and this fight will serve primarily for Naruto to figure out a lot about Tobi and his form of the six paths of Pain jutsu.
Re: Kyuubi:
I'm intrigued as to what the Kyuubi will say about Tobi. Will he recognize him as Madara? I know he shouldn't be Madara as his soul is in Edo Madara on another battlefield, but I wonder if something weird will be revealed through him such as, "This chakra is familiar but there's something wrong with it, I sense Uchiha Madara, but it's not him..."
As I said, I think the Kyuubi will give more and more to Naruto, as he realizes his options are limited. He has Madara and Tobi. Madara treats him horribly, Tobi wants to annihilate him for the Juubi resurrection, and Naruto has promised to never hurt him again. Thus, it's a pretty easy decision. However, I think the Kyuubi has major trust issues so it's still going to be a building process.
Re: TBB & TB II mode:
I don't really want to see the TBB anymore because that means Naruto going into TB II mode, which means looking like the Kyuubi quite possibly and shooting it out of his mouth like he has in his previous cloak modes. I'd rather him master the TBB Rasengan, unless that's what you were referring too, but he doesn't need the fox for that anyway. I hope TB II mode is an evolution of his current KM that makes him more like the Rikudou Sennin/younger son, and/or that fusion with sage mode does that.
Peace
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Going back to the original question does Naruto have a chance? That's insane right? Of course Naruto has a chance, and Minato planned for this 16 years ago, and so far so good with Naruto's development for 16 year old to take on the major villain Minato couldn't finish... His shadow clones that have about 5-10% of his power have been taking out Edo Kages. If Edo Kages and Kage level Shinobi (S-class worth of Kage position) counted on your list of Kages killed, Naruto might lead that list. Sure there's plot no jutsu involved in his fights more in some, less in others, but it's a story not an arcade fighter.
Personally, I wonder if Naruto will be the number one target if when Tobi sees Bee with Naruto depending on how well Naruto fights. If Naruto, with Bee present, becomes too difficult to deal with, I think Tobi will go after Bee and warp them out of there. If all 5 Kages didn't believe in Naruto, they wouldn't of let him fight Tobi, now's another chance for him to surpass his father the fourth Hokage, and I expect to do it, if not in this battle, than in a following one, where this one serves for each side to feel each other out and take conciliatory prizes.
Peace
As for the final villain I still think tobi will play a big role mainly because minato went to a great trouble to seal the fox in naruto to make sure konoha has something epic to fight with when the time comes, which he thought was tobi.
The fox has recoginsed tobi during the fox attack on konoha but didt reveal specfics just said "you!!". Im thinking the foxs know exactly who he is mainly becuase I think this would be a common gorund for naruto and the fox to work together and start fighting epic style for change. That makes sense to me at least, also the fox seems to know about the so6p and juubi so these are all good ways for kishi to bring the fox in the story in a big way and why not tobi wants to revive the juubi try and become the next so6p etcc... The alliance does actually need proper intel of the juubi and so6p's powers. They need to know what they dealing with. Looks like they are going to find out the hard way but this will reslut in deaths.
Cant wait for the manga tommorrow, uaslly the manga gets released early after week break.