Does it even matter if we answer to our existence

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I mean for real,

If we realize that it really was the Big Bang theory that caused our existence then we'll be reading it from a yahoo news story and say something like "oh that's nice" and move on.

Same thing with God like if somehow everyone came to agreement that God created us then we would all still go about with our normal lives.

I don't see how people put so much emphasis on these topics when we know that we won't stop being ourselves even after we find all the answers.

What do you guys think? Would you change?

I Know God created us. If you realize this as well, then wouldn't you want to know for what purpose? Its more than just going "huh" then moving on, it puts many things in perspective, even if you go against said perspective or plans for your life, you would do so with that knowledge. Knowing that, not much would be the same, even if it wasn't an overwhelming effect all at once. See sig.
 

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Merely came to an agreement or discovered that a god exist?


If the latter, the impact would be pretty damn huge, to say the least. Where do I even start? lol

There are several religions with different gods, now that they all got a confirmation, I wouldn't be surprised if there's bickering among them. The atheist? If it's the truth, it would have to be taught in schools. Would parents go crazy and start pulling their kids out of public schools? I wouldn't put it past them. Would atheist teachers even be willing to put their beliefs aside to teach these children of god? I wouldn't underestimate, or overestimate, humankind.

The discovery of a god may not even directly mean it's the same god as in the bible or any religion, but that wouldn't stop people from failing to look at the bigger picture, whether they're atheist or religious.

As for the scientific community, what does this god want? Why did it put is here? Do we have a purpose? It'll rattle the scientific world and while also causing a lot of chaos around the world.

"Oh that's nice and move on." Pffft yeah right. U_U

That's why I wouldn't put my trust in the scientific community in revealing such a thing even if they found evidence hinting toward it. Even if you have the least bit of foresight, you could see the potential chaos that will result from the revelation of a god/intelligent designer. I probably didn't even come close to listing all the disastrous or astronomical results.

It'll be chaos if the big bang was to be revealed as 100% fact as well. I'm assuming this is a hypothetical situation where everyone is in agreement/it's not disputable. This would be problematic for all the religions out there.

All in all, it'll be a pretty big deal.
 
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Merely came to an agreement or discovered that a god exist?


If the latter, the impact would be pretty damn huge, to say the least. Where do I even start? lol

There are several religions with different gods, now that they all got a confirmation, I wouldn't be surprised if there's bickering among them. The atheist? If it's the truth, it would have to be taught in schools. Would parents go crazy and start pulling their kids out of public schools? I wouldn't put it past them. Would atheist teachers even be willing to put their beliefs aside to teach these children of god? I wouldn't underestimate, or overestimate, humankind.

The discovery of a god may not even directly mean it's the same god as in the bible or any religion, but that wouldn't stop people from failing to look at the bigger picture, whether they're atheist or religious.

As for the scientific community, what does this god want? Why did it put is here? Do we have a purpose? It'll rattle the scientific world and while also causing a lot of chaos around the world.

"Oh that's nice and move on." Pffft yeah right. U_U

That's why I wouldn't put my trust in the scientific community in revealing such a thing even if they found evidence hinting toward it. Even if you have the least bit of foresight, you could see the potential chaos that will result from the revelation of a god/intelligent designer. I probably didn't even come close to listing all the disastrous or astronomical results.

It'll be chaos if the big bang was to be revealed as 100% fact as well. I'm assuming this is a hypothetical situation where everyone is in agreement/it's not disputable. This would be problematic for all the religions out there.

All in all, it'll be a pretty big deal.
Well I know a discovery would shake the foundations of human understanding and that's exactly why I said that they would just come to an agreement that god created them.


Btw the concept of the universe expanding has already been proven to be more than just a theory but a fact when enough evidence (a Sigma .00000000000000000000000000000000003) was observed. Still people live their lives normally
 
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Well I know a discovery would shake the foundations of human understanding and that's exactly why I said that they would just come to an agreement that god created them.

I guess. But generally, people don't believe what they don't see. In your scenario, it may not be much of a deal, but only because they have resigned themselves from the truth, or ever hoping to discover it.


Btw the concept of the universe expanding has already been proven to be more than just a theory but a fact when enough evidence (a Sigma .0000000003) was observed. Still people live their lives normally


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I'd dare say that there's not as many as you think that actually believe in the big bang. Let me present to you a hypothetical situation.

Say, that we were somehow given the chance to see the big bang actually happen. Now, stop. Be real with yourself, go deep and call forth all that information you have on human behavior. Now tell me, how many "believers" do you think would believe it more after seeing it? To humans, seeing is believing. Many have only accepted theories such as the big bang because it's an alternative to believing in a god. Throw in some facts, and we may accept/acknowledge it. But actually believing it? Don't be fooled. We're human, and life is and always will be a big mystery for us (well, unless our existence is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt). There's always going to be that little piece of us screaming out, "Did it really happen that way?", even if we choose to ignore the screams.

The reason why many didn't care much (even so-called believers) is because they didn't see it with their own eyes. I could tell a believer, "Hey, there's an article about the big-bang, they say they have solid undeniable proof." and it wouldn't excite them anywhere near as much as saying, "Hey, come down with the rest of us, we're going back in time and seeing how everything came to be."

As for as big bang being a fact, they've shown that it can happen under the right conditions. We still haven't seen it with our own eyes, and to humans, that's believing.

I'll end it with this though. If all of us could hypothetically see the unfolding of the universe, and the evolution of life from the beginning, if you think that the believers would watch without seeking confirmation of these events somewhere deep inside them, then you'd (not you, but generally speaking) be really naive.

We're all curious. We're all in doubt. We're all a scientist, so to speak.
 

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You should ask religious ppl why they devote their time to something as meaningless as trying to proof their god
 

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I mean for real,

If we realize that it really was the Big Bang theory that caused our existence then we'll be reading it from a yahoo news story and say something like "oh that's nice" and move on.

Same thing with God like if somehow everyone came to agreement that God created us then we would all still go about with our normal lives.

I don't see how people put so much emphasis on these topics when we know that we won't stop being ourselves even after we find all the answers.

What do you guys think? Would you change?

that's why i'm agnostic, because wheter god exists or god doesn't exist, it doesn't affect how i live my life.

but people like to have meaning, and more importantly protection. people like to think that good things will happen if they act good or follow some rules. if there's a drought humans can't do anything but prey, literaly anything. if there is no god then humans are weak, small and powerless. it's not surprising that it's scary for some people to live in a world where god can't magically save them.
 

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I mean for real,

If we realize that it really was the Big Bang theory that caused our existence then we'll be reading it from a yahoo news story and say something like "oh that's nice" and move on.

Same thing with God like if somehow everyone came to agreement that God created us then we would all still go about with our normal lives.

I don't see how people put so much emphasis on these topics when we know that we won't stop being ourselves even after we find all the answers.

What do you guys think? Would you change?


I already believe that God created us. I live life differently then what everybody else does because I believe that this life is only temporary. Our real home is in eternity.
 

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So by your logic we shouldn't have questioned anything, ever in history.
 

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It's all because of natural human curiosity. We want to explain the un-explained. Explore the unexplored. Whatever we can't explain now, we strive to explain in the future. That is what has led us to prominent components of science such as evolution, the Big Bang, special theory of relativity etc. Humans capacity to think, rationalize and search for things based on their inherent curiosity will continue to drive us until the day we finally die out as a species.

@Big Bang topic -> It was essentially confirmed this past week. The only hole in the theory was how the universe would become so big, so quickly in a short amount of time to house the billions and or trillion of planets it now houses in the time it has existed. Recent evidence pertaining to gravitational wavelengths in light prove the theory of inflation; which is essentially the concept that in the first fraction of a nanosecond of the universe's existence after the Big Bang happened, it rapidly expanded and is continuing to expand now (inflation).

Continuing OT...

It kind of goes back to my first statement. Humans are ingenious with their curiosity. They want to prove what they say. That is why religious debates go on for so long, or the rift between theism and atheism is so large; each side wants to prove that their beliefs are the correct ones, and it creates these Pseudo-wars between the two sides. If it were to happen (either God proven real or not) it would be cataclysmic to say the least. The small scale controversies on the internet would be child's play to the real world ramification of the confirmation of either side.
 
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