Does Hashirama still hold the title of being the strongest ninja ever?

[~Ethereal~]

Can he beat itachi?

Lol, I've asked mainly because there was no change of the "god of shinobi title" in the manga and if the current people(in the manga) think the main characters passed Hashirama.

 

[Warlocks]

Without enhancement, yes.

that^

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Lol, I've asked mainly because there was no change of the "god of shinobi title" in the manga and if the current people(in the manga) think the main characters passed Hashirama.

Thats a good question. I was thinking this myself.

 

[Eng nawashi]

without any rikudo/jiubi related power , he is .but the strongest shinobi ever would be triple rinnegan madara unless kaguya is considered a shinobi ,

 

[FemmeFatale]

Nope that's Sakura , her strength has no bounds

 

[lndra]

With his own power, yes.

 

[Sagebee]

I will give it to Naruto but not for the reasons you'd normally think. Naruto is the strongest to me simply because of the fact that he can take someone like Hinata and give her enough power to block a juubi's attack with an air palm. He could basically make everyone around him kage level, give them a cloak for protection and let them demolish anything standing in his way. Hashirama was strong but he's only one man. Naruto can take an army of ppl and make them all virtually kage level and give them an excellent defense while replenishing their chakra.

Agree

 

[BlacLord™]

Strongest non-Rikudou shinobi? Yes.
Strongest shinobi? No.

RSBM Naruto, SRG Madara and RG Sasuke are the three strongest shinobi over all, with the bolded one at the very top.

I will give it to Naruto but not for the reasons you'd normally think. Naruto is the strongest to me simply because of the fact that he can take someone like Hinata and give her enough power to block a juubi's attack with an air palm. He could basically make everyone around him kage level, give them a cloak for protection and let them demolish anything standing in his way. Hashirama was strong but he's only one man. Naruto can take an army of ppl and make them all virtually kage level and give them an excellent defense while replenishing their chakra.

But that's what we're talking about, the strongest single shinobi. And if we're talking BSM Naruto vs. Hashirama, the latter has more chakra anyway. People were still taking damage and dying with the cloaks anyway, and only those with half-decent jutsu would benefit anyway. Besides, amping up fodder with extra power doesn't make them Kage-level, just strengthens their jutsu. Fodder is fodder, and don't have the skills or physical abilities to find significant boost from the chakra cloaks. Not to mention that sharing his chakra means there's little left in the pool for Naruto.


In the end though, an army isn't a single shinobi, Naruto is. Meanwhile, Base Hashirama's Mokujin no Jutsu is equal to 100% Kurama, so says the databook.

 

[kiiro]

He has the title of god shinobi and it isn't because his is sñtje strongest, it is because his fairy tail tecnics.

In the ninja world, there are ninjas on his same level and ninjas who surpassed him.

On his same level are ones like Tobirama, Nagato, Itachi, Madara EMS and maybe Jiraiya with sage mode.

Ones who surpassed him are like Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Madara Rinnegan and Minato.

 

[kiiro]

I will give it to Naruto but not for the reasons you'd normally think. Naruto is the strongest to me simply because of the fact that he can take someone like Hinata and give her enough power to block a juubi's attack with an air palm. He could basically make everyone around him kage level, give them a cloak for protection and let them demolish anything standing in his way. Hashirama was strong but he's only one man. Naruto can take an army of ppl and make them all virtually kage level and give them an excellent defense while replenishing their chakra.

Not really, blocking a attack doesn't make you kage level. Maybe jonnin level.

Naruto gave all the army the cloak which multiply their power more than 3 times (stated in the manga) and all the could do was nothing. While it only needed 4 Hokagesto do what no one in the alliance could.

 

[kiiro]

1. Itachi
2. Sasuke
3. Hashirama

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And a lot more ninjas.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Nope. :elmo:

 

[kiiro]

That title goes to his successor Naruto.

Successor? He isn't. He is transmigrant of Ashura, not of Hashirama

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Successor? He isn't. He is transmigrant of Ashura, not of Hashirama

That's what I meant. The next Ashura transmigrant and in that sense he's Hashirama's successor.

Nope that's Sakura , her strength has no bounds

Your trolling knows no bound.

 

[kiiro]

Strongest non-Rikudou shinobi? Yes.
Strongest shinobi? No.

RSBM Naruto, SRG Madara and RG Sasuke are the three strongest shinobi over all, with the bolded one at the very top.



But that's what we're talking about, the strongest single shinobi. And if we're talking BSM Naruto vs. Hashirama, the latter has more chakra anyway. People were still taking damage and dying with the cloaks anyway, and only those with half-decent jutsu would benefit anyway. Besides, amping up fodder with extra power doesn't make them Kage-level, just strengthens their jutsu. Fodder is fodder, and don't have the skills or physical abilities to find significant boost from the chakra cloaks. Not to mention that sharing his chakra means there's little left in the pool for Naruto.


In the end though, an army isn't a single shinobi, Naruto is. Meanwhile, Base Hashirama's Mokujin no Jutsu is equal to 100% Kurama, so says the databook.

Scan of his wood man is par on Kurama's level?

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

What about 8 Gates Gai? That's his own power and he almost killed a juubijin who was pratically immortal. People haven't came as close as he have just off one's own power feats/not borrowed power. But if were including outside sources of power it would be JJ Mads, and if were not including Kayuga/Rinnesharigan Madara then it would be Naruto/Sasuke.

 

[Retsu]

Not really, blocking a attack doesn't make you kage level. Maybe jonnin level.

Naruto gave all the army the cloak which multiply their power more than 3 times (stated in the manga) and all the could do was nothing. While it only needed 4 Hokagesto do what no one in the alliance could.

It was 3 times when kurama gave out unmodified chakra but when Naruto does it the boost is stronger(stated in the manga), and holding within a barrier is one thing but actually affecting it with jutsus is totally different.

 

[~Ethereal~]

What about 8 Gates Gai? That's his own power and he almost killed a juubijin who was pratically immortal. People haven't came as close as he have just off one's own power feats/not borrowed power. But if were including outside sources of power it would be JJ Mads, and if were not including Kayuga/Rinnesharigan Madara then it would be Naruto/Sasuke.

In the manga Hashirama was titled as "God Of Shinobi" and I was thinking if that title still belonged to him(because in the manga the title remained unchanged) and the main chars passed him.

 

[kiiro]

That's what I meant. The next Ashura transmigrant and in that sense he's Hashirama's successor.



Your trolling knows no bound.

It is not the same. Succesor is any Hokage. Naruto does have anything to do with Hashirama. So different.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

It is not the same. Succesor is any Hokage. Naruto does have anything to do with Hashirama. So different.

Hashirama is many things apart from being the first hokage. As an Ashura transmigrant, Naruto is his successor smh.