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Remember Kurama telling Sasuke he shouldn't kill Naruto.
Does base Naruto stands a chance against base Sasuke ?
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Remember Kurama telling Sasuke he shouldn't kill Naruto.
Wrong. Naruto true power comes from his own body and his ability to handle and control chakra. That's why he can achieve those modes. In other words Naruto's modes are the results of his ability to create/control/manipulate large amounts of powerful chakra. So Naruto's base mode will always grow regardless if he is in SM/KM/BM. His bigger/more powerful rasengans is another way Naruto shows off that power.
EI: When 2 base Naruto shadow clones were fighting Madara they created a super giant rasengan.
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Even thought we have never seen Naruto create a rasengan that size outside of SM or KM/BM he was able to in base mode. That's because his ability to control chakra and create those rasengans comes from his base skills and power.
There are many more examples. One of the best examples is Naruto ability to transfer chakra. During the war he transferred his chakra to ever single alliance ninja/samurai on the battlefield. That was the result of Nartuo's base skills/power. The 9 tail did not give him that ability.
So, to answer OP question I would say the current Base Naruto (no 9 tails chakra or SM) is equal to base Sasuke (3T sharingan).
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Base- Sasuke wins.
1 Tails- Sasuke wins.
2 Tails- Sasuke wins or ties.
2 Tails isn't beating Sasuke, and this is coming from somebody who hates him.
But... if Sasuke has to face Naruto in one round and he has to go through all 3 of those phases, then probably Naruto. Probably.
1 Tails- Sasuke wins.
2 Tails- Sasuke wins or ties.
2 Tails isn't beating Sasuke, and this is coming from somebody who hates him.
But... if Sasuke has to face Naruto in one round and he has to go through all 3 of those phases, then probably Naruto. Probably.
Yeah, Sasuke fought and beat a weaken/ wore out Naruto. Naruto couldn't even run a few step without fall down. Not impressive. Besides Naruto has grown alot since that time. If you want to determine how strong someone is you should use current examples when they are at their best not worst.
Naruto the way his clones are now would kill sasuke in a second
how he would handle sword either by countering with kunai or use a clone to catch the blade like with omoi and what that othe cloud nin name is
how he would handle sword either by countering with kunai or use a clone to catch the blade like with omoi and what that othe cloud nin name is
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End of Days
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Base Naruto thats excluding SM/KCM/BM can use frs via a clone and sasuke has no answer to it
using clone feints/smoke bombs/summon help he one shots sasuke
using clone feints/smoke bombs/summon help he one shots sasuke
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Can't Sasuke use Susano'o without sharingan?
Naruto doesn't have any reaction feats in his base form which enables him to avoid Sasuke's shunshin. I don't care about how many bunshins he can make, if he gets pressured by katana slash at high speed its game over.
Naruto doesn't have any reaction feats in his base form which enables him to avoid Sasuke's shunshin. I don't care about how many bunshins he can make, if he gets pressured by katana slash at high speed its game over.
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y are u so stupid?
frs damages naruto when in base and sasuke no answeres? it so slow it can be avoided by even knohamaru
i've seen ur posts majority of them you bring up feints bombs argument shit when it wont reallt work
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Base means base, that's no SM,KM, BM or BSM for Naruto and No sharingan period for Sasuke. Using the Sharingan is not base since he has to active the sharingan just like Naruto has to activate his modes.
Yes Naruto base stands a chance a chance against 3T Sasuke. Kakashi said base Naruto was on his level if not surpassed him (
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) when Naruto mastered his FRS at about 50% (
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). Naruto became even stronger after learning to go SM, his hand to hand combat increased and was not only holding off Deva path in base in taijutsu but also defended himself against Omoi and Karui's kenjutsu who were both Bee's students and jounin level (
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). He only got pushed back when saving Sakura but easily countered them in just close combat. Bee overwhelmed Sasuke's kenjutsu and Omoi and Karui call him master
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so Naruto knows how to handle kenjutsu. for chidori infused katana, Naruto already learned how to add his wind chakra to his ninja tools from Asuma
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.Naruto has speed and timing that Kakashi said was even better than his when Naruto saved Sakura, he was fast enough to save her without being sensed by Sasuke or Kakashi
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. Naruto have more stamina and chakra so can use high level jutsus right after each other with no difficulty that can overwhelm Sasuke.Sasuke's fire jutsus wouldn't do nothing to FRS since Sasuke needs to use fire jutsu on the same or greater level to beat it and he hasn't shown any. For Kirin, it is a targeted destructive jutsu, Sasuke have to direct it right at Naruto or else it's useless. Why I say it's useless? Because Naruto isn't going to be finished off by the aftermath destruction. Kirin hit the mountain and would have killed Itachi if he didn't use Susanoo but then why was Sasuke fine even tho he was a couple of feet from Itachi? That's because the damage is done to the target or else Sasuke would have been dead. It's real Lightning and not chakra base so he wouldn't survive it. Multi-shadow clone who use rasengan on the floor to block Sasuke's vision, Naruto did this on a shorter scale against Pein
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So yes base Naruto does stand a chance against Sasuke's base and 3T Sasuke with chances of winning.
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Yeah, unfortunately for Naruto, Sasuke's max-speed isn't determined by Chakra Beasts and Modes. That's the major game changer here. 3T or not, Sasuke is way too fast for Naruto here. And that's not even including Sasuke's mastered Shinshun.
Not to mention that he's smarter in battle, more variety in Jutsu
Not to mention that he's smarter in battle, more variety in Jutsu
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Yes I believe Naruto does stand a chance, but I still believe that Sasuke would win 7-10 times. Meaning Sasuke would win overall. Which do you believe would win overall, since I don't believe you have given a direct answer.
You do know that wasn't a real full on fight right? Naruto was weakened before even meeting up with Sasuke in the beginning of Shippuden. The chakra cloak is constantly damaging Naruto's body
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. Naruto loses his flesh going 4 tails and after fighting Orochimaru he was severely weaken as shown by him collapsing when they were talking
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and again while looking for Sasuke
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.Not saying Naruto base was stronger because base Naruto was at around high chunin while Sasuke's base was around mid jounin and high jounin with 3 tomoes. Naruto's base has increase to Kakashi level after beating Kakuza and base only got stronger after learning SM
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If Naruto has 2 tails and has full control of it naruto would win against Sasuke cause of his speed and power
and sasuke sharinggan might be able to predict the future but his physical body will not be able to keep up with naruto speed. And of course naruto can regenerate and gains a boost of chakra becuse of the nine tails. =D
and sasuke sharinggan might be able to predict the future but his physical body will not be able to keep up with naruto speed. And of course naruto can regenerate and gains a boost of chakra becuse of the nine tails. =D
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I don't really know who would win for sure, it depends on what strategies they decide to use. Naruto's base skills only kept improving while Sasuke's base was never improved. Sasuke went from CM to MS to EMS, He lost the later as he gained more power, this wouldn't increase his base stats. Kakashi was wondering if Naruto surpassed back when he beat Kakazu
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. This would put Naruto on high Jounin level since Kakashi was mid jounin in part 1 and was stronger at the time he said that. Naruto's smarts is about Sasuke level when it comes to battle strategy but in a different way. I lean more towards Naruto winning because Sasuke's base was still the same from when we first saw him while Naruto's base only improved and been compared or said to surpass the likes of Kakashi who is a high jounin himself. If you think about it then you might see where I'm coming from but I don't see how Sasuke's base stats are any different when he didn't train at all since he went from CM to MS to EMS while all Naruto did was train to catch up to Sasuke while learning FRS where he end up matching or surpassing Kakashi to doing more training and getting stronger from his SM training.
Didn't base my thoughts on this but was thinking about it:
Pa toad said Naruto learned all Sage techniques to some degree when he learned SM
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so he would be more adept with those jutsus now. Jiraiya used Sage techniques in his base, he turned someone into a toad with just hand seals
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. Toad affiliated jutsus just toad stomach and such. Kishi never shown Naruto used them but we know Jiraiya learned all toad jutsus from the toad and Naruto did the same to an extent.