Does anyone else think Naruto is on the wrong side of the moral argument?

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The bijuu are inhuman monsters, that's the way 99% of humanity would regard them IRL. Just saying, Sasuke isn't off-base from a certain point of view...

Humans(ninjas) made them inhuman. Ironic isn't it?
 

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But what was wrong with the Shinobi world besides the fact the Bijuus make them unequal?
 

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Dude,he wants to get rid of the Bijuu cause their existence brought the world into what it is now.People fought for the Bijuu,Hashirama gave them out to show cooperation,then later Akatsuki geos around to each of those villages and kidnaps the jins for the Bijuu,and start a war for them,and everyone gets trapped in the IT.

If the Bijuus weren't around then this could never happen again.

Read the Manga again.....there was war way before the juubi even existed...war is the reason why kaguya ate the fruit in turn created the juubi who was split up by the sage....the only thing you can blame is humanity itself
 

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With Naruto Forgiving everyone even the person who f*cked up his life and killed many innocent people causing world destruction and being over sentimental to someone like Osama bin laden and even idealize as " Coolest Guy" is so Irrational and totally unrealistic. Naruto point of View is BS. Nobody can't relate to Naruto.
 

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MY PEACE IS BETTER THAN YOUR PEACE
NO MY PEACE IS BETTER THAN YOUR PEACE
I'LL KILL YOU!
NOT IF I KILL YOU FIRST.... IN THE NAME OF PEACE

This manga is crazy
 

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But what was wrong with the Shinobi world besides the fact the Bijuus make them unequal?

Wars that don't end. Pain. The minor nations getting crapped on. Clans getting erradicated. Genocide. People dying like trash. What happened to Rin, what happened to Jugo's clan. What happened to Nardo's parents. Hashirama's system in that sense is sorta a failure...
 

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The bijuu are inhuman monsters, that's the way 99% of humanity would regard them IRL. Just saying, Sasuke isn't off-base from a certain point of view...

They exist because of humans messed with the nature....

Swear to god you Sasuke's fapboys don't even read the Manga, you just go through pages until you see Sasuke in a panel so you can fap to him....
 

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You can't really say that any of their moral judgement are perfectly suited for the shinobi world. It's not a logical anime remember?

Do you realize they're trying to change this same Shinobi world where their views aren't suited.If there views were suited for the current Shinobi world then why would they want to change it?your post was the only thing not logical.
 

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MY PEACE IS BETTER THAN YOUR PEACE
NO MY PEACE IS BETTER THAN YOUR PEACE
I'LL KILL YOU!
NOT IF I KILL YOU FIRST.... IN THE NAME OF PEACE

This manga is crazy


Sounds more like US's definition of peace/democracy
 
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Dude,he wants to get rid of the Bijuu cause their existence brought the world into what it is now.People fought for the Bijuu,Hashirama gave them out to show cooperation,then later Akatsuki geos around to each of those villages and kidnaps the jins for the Bijuu,and start a war for them,and everyone gets trapped in the IT.

If the Bijuus weren't around then this could never happen again.



bijuu are the only way IT can ever be casted.


Uchihas started last war

Uchihas started IT

Uchihas started bad akatsuki...Without Uchihas world would be more peacefull
 

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They exist because of humans messed with the nature....

Swear to god you Sasuke's fapboys don't even read the Manga, you just go through pages until you see Sasuke in a panel so you can fap to him....

Kaguya ended world wars with her power alone. She took "Nature" into her own hands to end the strife humanity created. The only problem with her rule by power was that she got greedy and attacked her sons.

Her system was perfect, but corrupted by the fruit of the Shinjuu itself.
 

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Dude,he wants to get rid of the Bijuu cause their existence brought the world into what it is now.People fought for the Bijuu,Hashirama gave them out to show cooperation,then later Akatsuki geos around to each of those villages and kidnaps the jins for the Bijuu,and start a war for them,and everyone gets trapped in the IT.

If the Bijuus weren't around then this could never happen again.



bijuu are the only way IT can ever be casted.

You aren't Reading the Manga properly are you?

Black Zetsu AKA the mastermind of the whole Kaguya revival and IT is sealed in another Dimension. The Gedo Mazo is sealed in another dimension in another moon in other words it is in a separate dimension from it's power source AKA the TB.
Also After Naruto and Sasuke perish what are the odds of another person Awakening the Rinnegan? Even if that is possible they will just kill themselves attempting to Summon the Gedo Mazo from the other dimension. Assuming that they would know about the IT which nobody except Naruto and Team 7 will know after it is undone since they only know where BZ and the GM are in the end.
 

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Uchihas started last war

Uchihas started IT

Uchihas started bad akatsuki...Without Uchihas world would be more peacefull

1. Uchihas did not start any such war. They were hired to fight on the side of an already ongoing war, the same as every other clan including the senju.

2. Uchihas started the IT because they were ostracized and given a false truth and path to peace in the form of an altered tablet by BZ.

3. IT is the most pure form of peace introduced thus far in the manga.

You aren't Reading the Manga properly are you?

Black Zetsu AKA the mastermind of the whole Kaguya revival and IT is sealed in another Dimension. The Gedo Mazo is sealed in another dimension in another moon in other words it is in a separate dimension from it's power source AKA the TB.
Also After Naruto and Sasuke perish what are the odds of another person Awakening the Rinnegan? Even if that is possible they will just kill themselves attempting to Summon the Gedo Mazo from the other dimension. Assuming that they would know about the IT which nobody except Naruto and Team 7 will know after it is undone since they only know where BZ and the GM are in the end.

You can't possibly predict the future.

Edo Tensei can bring back any number of people who have read the Uchiha tablet, the transmigrants themselves could explain the details, hell, even some toads could tell humanity about the Infinite Tsukuyomi.
 

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Wars that don't end. Pain. The minor nations getting crapped on. Clans getting erradicated. Genocide. People dying like trash. What happened to Rin, what happened to Jugo's clan. What happened to Nardo's parents. Hashirama's system in that sense is sorta a failure...

Well that's true. Naruto's way can work because of love and happiness which is childish but yet it's Shonen. Sasuke's plan makes sense to kill all the Kages but that will just lead to more chaos. You'll have Sasuke's revolutionaries vs. the people who had the Kage's backs. Naruto's way is more peaceful while Sasuke's way is more chaotic.
 

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Wars that don't end. Pain. The minor nations getting crapped on. Clans getting erradicated. Genocide. People dying like trash. What happened to Rin, what happened to Jugo's clan. What happened to Nardo's parents. Hashirama's system in that sense is sorta a failure...

And do you think that Sasuke's system will end all wars? Lol! People will go against Sasuke's system and this will create more death and wars.
 

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IN THE NAME OF PEACE This manga is not crazy
 

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What I mean is Naruto's ways of obtaining peace aren't realistic. They are childish and naive, as Pain once said before he got TnJ'd. Sasuke's methods may be arbitrarily cruel but IMO they are more in line with the way the "real world" works in the Narutoverse. We haven't seen much out of the Go-kage that suggest they'd actually go back to not privately chasing down their own petty power struggles and abusing the TB.

Even Hagoromo was worried about the nations using the TB as weapons

How is it childish and naive? Naruto changed Gaara in part 1, Gaara in turn used Naruto as his inspiration when he gave a speech to the Alliance which made them stop thinking of each other as enemies and to start thinking of each other as comrades. It only took changing 1 person to help him change thousands. Also Oonoki already said he will change and fight as a member of the Alliance instead of the Kage if his village. A allowed Naruto and Bee in which is him changing since he wouldn't normally do that and he fought with the other Kages and cared for their safety which is also not like the old A. A also acknowledged Naruto as Hokage by saying a Hokages tend to bow after seeing Hashirama bow at the first Kage meeting via Hashirama memories. Mei is a newer Kage who put a stop to the blood mist era in the hidden mist, Tsunade is newer as well compared to A and Oonoki years as Kage and she wants peace as well.

Sasuke is only doing what Madara wanted but in reversed. Madara blamed the people for taking something that was suppose to connect everyone and turned it into a way to fight so he used the Bijuus to help him remove people and thus stopping wars and conflict. Sasuke is blaming the Kages and Bijuus (who were used wrongly and by force by people) and he would have to rule over the people by force, fear, and oppressing everyone as Madara has.
 

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And do you think that Sasuke's system will end all wars? Lol! People will go against Sasuke's system and this will create more death and wars.

Only if they have a death wish.
 

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Uchihas started last war

Uchihas started IT

Uchihas started bad akatsuki...Without Uchihas world would be more peacefull
Isn't it clear that Zetsu manipulated them? And who started the prevoius 3 Wars? Which led to the Akatsuki being created,the fourth War,and the IT being casted to change the messed up war? Uchihas were not the biggest problems.

Shinobi Nations still fought for YEARS,getting into MULTIPLE wars,which made those Uchihas want to get the Bijuu,start a war to get the Bijuu,and cast IT to attain peace.
You aren't Reading the Manga properly are you?

Black Zetsu AKA the mastermind of the whole Kaguya revival and IT is sealed in another Dimension. The Gedo Mazo is sealed in another dimension in another moon in other words it is in a separate dimension from it's power source AKA the TB.
Also After Naruto and Sasuke perish what are the odds of another person Awakening the Rinnegan? Even if that is possible they will just kill themselves attempting to Summon the Gedo Mazo from the other dimension. Assuming that they would know about the IT which nobody except Naruto and Team 7 will know after it is undone since they only know where BZ and the GM are in the end.

And weren't these same Bijuus fough for in the past through War? Weren't these same Bijuu seen as weapons? IT isn't the only problem with the Bijuu being around.
 
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