Does anyone else think Naruto is on the wrong side of the moral argument?

[narutoblitz]

Sort of curious if I am alone on this one.

 

[Tennis Robot]

What is immoral about Naruto's desires?

 

[narutoblitz]

What I mean is Naruto's ways of obtaining peace aren't realistic. They are childish and naive, as Pain once said before he got TnJ'd. Sasuke's methods may be arbitrarily cruel but IMO they are more in line with the way the "real world" works in the Narutoverse. We haven't seen much out of the Go-kage that suggest they'd actually go back to not privately chasing down their own petty power struggles and abusing the TB.

Even Hagoromo was worried about the nations using the TB as weapons

 

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Nope. Wanting to eliminate all the hate and pain in the world seems really good, to me least.

 

[The Necromancer]

Naruto is on the unrealistic side. But because this is a Shonen manga, no matter how unrealistic his dreams of peace are, they will work in the end.

 

[lanakui8]

Narutoʻs way of attaining peace canʻt be unrealistic since he hasnʻt even stated how heʻs going to do it.

However, Sasukeʻs way of attaining peace is morally wrong as it involves killing he gokage and the tailed beasts.

 

[Tennis Robot]

What I mean is Naruto's ways of obtaining peace aren't realistic. They are childish and naive, as Pain once said before he got TnJ'd. Sasuke's methods may be arbitrarily cruel but IMO they are more in line with the way the "real world" works in the Narutoverse. We haven't seen much out of the Go-kage that suggest they'd actually go back to not privately chasing down their own petty power struggles and abusing the TB.

Even Hagoromo was worried about the nations using the TB as weapons

The real world only works the way it does because of the people in it.

 

[Mahesvara]

Do you really think its bad that he wants people to understand and care for each other?

 

[slayerdanger]

Naruto's views are more realistic, like Kaguya or Haroromo said, there were people fighting before chakra was even around. That was before the tailed beasts even existed. So, Sasuke thinking that killing the tailed beasts will get rid of darkness is an absurd idea. Also, Sasuke will be a dictator, and dixtators don't bring peace and they always get overthrown.

 

[Cunning Linguist]

Naruto is like that blonde guy who banged his sister from that religious movie. In the movie the blonde guy has a black guy for a father and blows up a metal star. The point is, the blonde guy fought for peace. That's Naruto

 

[V h o]

Nope, I think it's right. Sasuke's ways don't seem realistic to me, it seems cruel.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Naruto is like that blonde guy who banged his sister from that religious movie. In the movie the blonde guy has a black guy for a father and blows up a metal star. The point is, the blonde guy fought for peace. That's Naruto

It's Star Wars.

 

[Mahesvara]

What I mean is Naruto's ways of obtaining peace aren't realistic. They are childish and naive, as Pain once said before he got TnJ'd. Sasuke's methods may be arbitrarily cruel but IMO they are more in line with the way the "real world" works in the Narutoverse. We haven't seen much out of the Go-kage that suggest they'd actually go back to not privately chasing down their own petty power struggles and abusing the TB.

Even Hagoromo was worried about the nations using the TB as weapons

It's a shonen anime, so of course it isn't going to be realistic...

 

[NukaCola]

Naruto has moral on his side.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

probably not

but sasuke fans will swallow everything that comes out of sasuke's mouth including that one line about sakura and kakashi being useless only to get slapped in their faces when sasuke did even little than them in the end

 

[Genjin]

Yeah, let's pretend that the TBs are the only power house in NB and also the nations won't fear Naruto and Sasuke when committing criminal acts. Let's just all pretend.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Naruto's views are more realistic, like Kaguya or Haroromo said, there were people fighting before chakra was even around. That was before the tailed beasts even existed. So, Sasuke thinking that killing the tailed beasts will get rid of darkness is an absurd idea. Also, Sasuke will be a dictator, and dixtators don't bring peace and they always get overthrown.

Dude,he wants to get rid of the Bijuu cause their existence brought the world into what it is now.People fought for the Bijuu,Hashirama gave them out to show cooperation,then later Akatsuki geos around to each of those villages and kidnaps the jins for the Bijuu,and start a war for them,and everyone gets trapped in the IT.

If the Bijuus weren't around then this could never happen again.

Yeah, let's pretend that the TBs are the only power house in NB and also the nations won't fear Naruto and Sasuke when committing criminal acts. Let's just all pretend.

bijuu are the only way IT can ever be casted.

 

[narutoblitz]

The bijuu are inhuman monsters, that's the way 99% of humanity would regard them IRL. Just saying, Sasuke isn't off-base from a certain point of view...

 

[Barugo no Rushian]

Per morality, I think Naruto is in the right. The moral thing to do certainly isn't to kill off the leaders of the world because of past mistakes and sentient life-forms because of the potential danger they may wrought. The moral thing to do is to act upon one's faith that peace can be achieved with mutual understanding and a symbol to pave the way for a new world. I will however say that Sasuke is more cynical, some may even say realistic. Without faith in world leaders, one is able to more easily end them along with their reins over the world system to bring about something altogether new -- revolutionary. (see what I did there? ) While I don't disagree with either shinobi's methods completely, I can say that Naruto seems to be far more of a moralist than his counterpart. Also, for a more thorough analysis of the characters' morality, compare Naruto's predecessors to Sasuke's.

Naruto has a tendency to live and let live (ex: Jiraiya, Nagato) yet Sasuke has a history of killing his predecessors (ex: Orochimaru, Itachi), whether in defense or not... I feel that this has in perhaps more ways than one, skewed Sasuke's morality severely; his radical ways are an expression of this.

 

[patrickscott]

You can't really say that any of their moral judgement are perfectly suited for the shinobi world. It's not a logical anime remember?