Do you view the Last as 100% canon???

[Lost Woods Denizen]

Well yeah he was in contact with their bodies when he recieved the chakra and that would make sense seeing how Kurama was told to look after Naruto, but if that is the case Naruto with 100% Kyuubi, RSM knowledge of chakra, sensory, reflexes, strength, is his full power.
No Bijuu elements. Especially Boil release, but I guess that is ok seeing how he can focus Kurama's chakra like he did to Toneri, but that means he should still be able to do BDRS right?

Yes, I agree. Naruto may no longer have the elements of the other beasts, but he does still have the rasenshuriken based around the bijuu dama.

Something interesting to note. In the movie I do not believe I heard Naruto add "fuuton" to any of his rasenshuriken, whereas in the manga he has not failed to add the elemental prefix. This may mean that he has mastered control of the rasengan to the point that he can make it a shuriken through pure shape manipulation, without the need for wind. He has used a blue rasengan, an orange rasengan, an orange rasenshuriken, and a rasengan that he used similar to a beam. The tailed beast nature transformations would simply be luxury at this point.

what do you think?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Yes, I agree. Naruto may no longer have the elements of the other beasts, but he does still have the rasenshuriken based around the bijuu dama.

Something interesting to note. In the movie I do not believe I heard Naruto add "fuuton" to any of his rasenshuriken, whereas in the manga he has not failed to add the elemental prefix. This may mean that he has mastered control of the rasengan to the point that he can make it a shuriken through pure shape manipulation, without the need for wind. He has used a blue rasengan, an orange rasengan, an orange rasenshuriken, and a rasengan that he used similar to a beam. The tailed beast nature transformations would simply be luxury at this point.

what do you think?

I think Naruto is more interesting than Sasuke after that.

 

[ANiMUS]

Yes, I agree. Naruto may no longer have the elements of the other beasts, but he does still have the rasenshuriken based around the bijuu dama.

Something interesting to note. In the movie I do not believe I heard Naruto add "fuuton" to any of his rasenshuriken, whereas in the manga he has not failed to add the elemental prefix. This may mean that he has mastered control of the rasengan to the point that he can make it a shuriken through pure shape manipulation, without the need for wind. He has used a blue rasengan, an orange rasengan, an orange rasenshuriken, and a rasengan that he used similar to a beam. The tailed beast nature transformations would simply be luxury at this point.

what do you think?

I don't know about that one I think they just use it so much that it is kinda implied

 

[Char Aznable]

It's movie canon. More canon than Road to Ninja, but it's not 100% canon imo. And I'm a NaruHina fan. The end of the manga, 699 gives the impression that Naruto is fully aware of Hinata's feelings; since he's standing by her during Neji's funeral and the monologue shows her when it mentions the word "love".

 

[take it easy]

If so I have a couple questions for you.
#1 what is your take on Naruto learning knowing Shadow clone jutsu when he was 7 while the in manga he didn't learn it till he was 12?

You're confusing Kage bunshin no jutsu with Tajuu kage bunshin which he learned at 12. It's two different jutsu.

 

[Bantos]

Just the parts where Tsunade appears.

Oh wait.

 

[1Told]

Kishimoto said it's canon, he announced it as chapter 699.5 too :mew:

from what i saw, i think it's a simple bushin no jutsu he did in the movie, the same stuff they teach every kid in the academy and not Tobirama's kage bushin he red on the secret scroll.

 

[loj]

It is cannon indeed but 100% don't know about that one.

NH flashbacks are filler.
It was said it's the period between 699-700 yet we saw nothing important.

Kishimoto said it's canon, he announced it as chapter 699.5 too :mew:

from what i saw, i think it's a simple bushin no jutsu he did in the movie, the same stuff they teach every kid in the academy and not Tobirama's kage bushin he red on the secret scroll.

But he didn't know to do it in first chapter.He is even younger there.

 

[1Told]

It is cannon indeed but 100% don't know about that one.

NH flashbacks are filler.
It was said it's the period between 699-700 yet we saw nothing important.



But he didn't know to do it in first chapter.He is even younger there.

well he could have stalked someone training for it like another older kid or simply Iruka teaching it to them, it's not the same jutsu so it's not a mistake just some twist to make this scene more funny and a nice nostalgic way to show again Naruto's signature

people should use their imagination more often to try to explain why/when/how/whatever, that's an interesting unknown part left for us to play with and sometimes it becomes canon which is nice!

 

[loj]

well he could have stalked someone training for it like another older kid or simply Iruka teaching it to them, it's not the same jutsu so it's not a mistake just some twist to make this scene more funny and a nice nostalgic way to show again Naruto's signature

people should use their imagination more often to try to explain why/when/how/whatever, that's an interesting unknown part left for us to play with and sometimes it becomes canon which is nice!

Yeah but it doesn't make sense.

He stole the scroll to learn bunshin couse he didn't know a simple bunshin.

 

[iKaras]

There's plenty of inconsistent things in the manga alone. Just because the movie wants to be as well doesn't make it non-canon.

It ain't a perfectly scripted movie but it's canon.

 

[Made in Heaven]

don't see why people don't cconsider the last canon just because of retcons and plot holes when even the manga has retcons and plot holes! What? does that suddenly mean the mnaga isn't canon either?

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

don't see why people don't cconsider the last canon just because of retcons and plot holes when even the manga has retcons and plot holes! What? does that suddenly mean the mnaga isn't canon either?

Not only that. If people have issues with The last not being Kishi's Idea. Well than Sasuke and Sakura were not Kishi's idea either. Yet they are accepted by many people. So the whole manga must not be hundred percent canon since all of it was not Kishi's idea.

 

[BLAZE]

tbh no

 

[JackelLord]

I don't like the film.

unfortunately, it is 100% canon but SP and the Hinata fans are loving it

 

[Chazzi]

Nope. Not at all.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Yes,canon is what the author says it is.

Of course you'll have people who deny the movie is canon due to butthurt.

 

[Ryūkai1]

Don't have an answer until i SEE the movie

 

[ANiMUS]

Yes,canon is what the author says it is.

Of course you'll have people who deny the movie is canon due to butthurt.

Eagle? :|

don't see why people don't cconsider the last canon just because of retcons and plot holes when even the manga has retcons and plot holes! What? does that suddenly mean the mnaga isn't canon either?

Actually, I just wanted to know so I could use/ counter the feats in debatse, but thanks to this thread I have answered most of my problems :|

There is a difference between clone jutsu and shadow clone
Naruto doesn't have RSM anymore
And his flight isn't based on rikudou chakra, but the knowledge of how to levitate achieved from RSM. Which still begs the question how the hell can Hinata do it :nuts:

 

[Made in Heaven]

There is a difference between clone jutsu and shadow clone
Naruto doesn't have RSM anymore
And his flight isn't based on rikudou chakra, but the knowledge of how to levitate achieved from RSM. Which still begs the question how the hell can Hinata do it :nuts:

Yeah, Naruto was able to pull off clones back then, though they were bad ones.

Where'd you hear that?

Maybe Hamura's chakra is diffrent than Hagoromo's?