well thats false. -current- North Africa may be that way but im talking before Arabs came back and settled in Africa, everyone originated from Africa then branched off in exploration. actually the name Moor is a Greek word that basically means black skin. everyone in Africa were considered Moors during the time before and after the fall of Rome. theres literally paintings and literature of Moorish Kings and Queens that are darker than i am and describe them as such, there positions in royalty and the military. and again the richest person to ever exist, was a black moorish king and theres tons of paintings of him thats clearly a black man
creating a false narrative that black people have always been slaves, is actually part of white supremacy and in part of trying to erase what actually happened in history, which has actually been done a lot to many cultures. im not saying they didnt have slaves but what youre saying is just not true
but heres a short video but it goes a lot deeper than that if you need more info. ive done a lot of reading and research on the topic once i was made aware
LMFAO, sorry what are you saying is total bullshit.
It's just an insult to myself and to to my people, because you are clearly stealing the history of my people. That's why I am so angry. Moors from Spain were my ancestors, not yours. I am tired of some Afro-American who try to find their history through other's. Black african from Africa never claimed to be Moors, because they knew their history contrary to you. Africa has a great story, like Ghanaean empire, Malian empire , Old Benin ect... no need to steal story from other people.
The problem with you Afro-American, is that as you had been enslaved by white europeans and send in North America, you lost your roots. None of you know from which African people you come from. Probably West-Africa, but West-Africa had many people and nations. So you are calling yourselves " Black ". But " Black " as " White " doesn't have any historical reality. The main mistake that some of you made, is to consider that black = black. It is even racist paradoxally, because Africa is a very diverse continent with many ethnicitied, Wakanda doesn't exist. There isn't Wakanda like in this marvel movie. I am talking about this Wakanda concept because unfortunately This is how some african american imagine Africa, as a unified continent with just "black" people.There are more than 100 African nations, with many languages, religions, cultures. How can you say that Senegalese, Malian, Nigerian, South African Bushmen, Ethiopian, Sudanese, Kenyan are the same people just because they are " black " skinned. Hell no. You ignore the complex reality of Africa. Africa isn't the Wakanda of this Hollywood movie. This is why the Liberian project failed. These african american came in West Africa and didn't understand what was really Africa.
It's the same thing with White american. Most of them ignore their roots, and most of them are ignorant about Europe and imagine Europe like a White Wakanda. Europe is as complex as Africa. There aren't just " Black " or " White " like in the USA. The american society is oversimplified, black, white, asian, hispanic, everything is artifical, even the way the cities are built, lmao.
And that's the problem here. Even though Moors were black african, how can an Afro-American say " This is my story ". Just because they were black skinned ? So a Japanese could say about Mongol empire " It's my story " just because Mongols had east-asian facial features ?
And I said even though, because in reality Moors weren't " black ".
First of all, Berbers aren't black, what the **** are you saying ? There are black berbers, called Tuareg, but they are a very small minority among North africans, they live in the Sahara region. There are like Asian minorities in Russia living in Siberia. Berbers are caucasian people similar to Middle East people. Even those who live before Arabs invasions. There are some Roman emperor who came from North Africa, and they weren't black. Moorish civilization = MENA
civilization. That's it. Arabs didn't change anything, every North african DNA test show that more than 80% of the DNA is North african, very few percent of Semitic Arab Middle East. Arabs arabized many North african people, that's all. And you still car find isolated berbers people in the Atlas mountain for example, they even don't speak Arabic, and they look like swarthy caucasian but not black. So stop about your lie, because at this point it is clearly a lie.
50% of Muslim living in Spain at this time were...Spanish. Yes, they were descendant of Wisigoth converted to Islam, like the Abu Qasi dynasty. And when Spain expelled Moors from Spain, they refugied in Morroco and Algeria, and some of these Moors are basically white because their ancestor were white Spanish converted to Islam, today you can still see some of them, they form the Bourgeoisie of Algeria and Morroco. And the other 50%, were North african settlers so swarthy caucasian people. In South Spain, if you can see some people with very Arab / North African facial features, it's because their ancestor were Moors who accepted to become Christian in order to stay in Spain. That's why in every DNA test made by a South spanish, there are percentages of North African DNA, but none West African DNA.
The one who conquered Spain and Portugal, was Tarik Ibn Ziyad. A north african who came from actual Algeria. His ethnicity was Chawi. Chawi people are moutainous berbers.
About the fact you said that there were Black moors king in Spain. Total nonsens. It is even the contrary. At one point, Moors leaders in Spain married so much with european women, that Moors leaders became very european looking. There was even a famous Blue eyed and Red hair Moors leader who tried to paint his barb in black in order to look more Arab and not European.
Language is also another example. What language influenced the most Spanish ? Arabic. Not an Western african language.
About your painting representing black people " moors ". First' many European painting about Eastern civilizations are totally false historycally, because these painter weren't representing the historic reality, they even didn't live during Moorish time, they just represented their fantasize about Eastern civlizations such as Arabian, North African ect...
+ in feudal europe, " moors " was a word used to describe everything that come from south of Mediteranea. So as Black sub saharan african as North african could be called " moors ". That is why Kanga Musa ( the richest King with 400 billion $ estimated ) was called a Moors by some european, he came from current Mali .
But even Kanga Musa, who was black, you can't identify yourself to him. Malian people can. But what about you Afro-American ? It's not because he was black skinned that it is your ancestor. In your same logic a South African or a Pygmean from Congolese forest can say " Kanga Musa is from my history " Hell no. Kanga Musa was a muslim black african from Mali. You Afro-American are mostly western african from polytheist tribes, you can't say Kanga Musa is your history. Lmao, if you lived under Kanga Musa reign, he would have enslaved you like he enslaved many non muslim black african from West Africa. It is like a Serbian who would say " Napoleon Bonaparte is my ancestor " hell no.
And yes, unfortunately many black african who lived among North African were slaves. Arabs leader liked to have slaves elite soldiers, some of them were Turkic, Black Sub-Saharan, Slavic, and Germanic. Black enslaving is unfortunately a part of Arab and North African history. For example the slaves who guarded the harem, were castrated black slave. In Algeria and Morroco you can even find some people descent from black slaves, they are called " gnawa ". The only free black people among Moors were black muslim, mostly traders.
To consider black are all the same is very insulting for African people. It's the a misconception from the American society. There aren't black, there aren't white, there aren't yellow. The world is more complex than that and thankfully.
So finally.... Moors from Spain and Portugal weren't black. I am the one who can claim his ancestor conquered Iberia, not you.
As Afro-American, if you want to find your history, your roots, start in Western Africa. Sénégal, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Benin ect... Learn their rich history. Your roots are there, not in North Africa, not in Spain.
