Do you think Naruto's next power-up will be permanent?

What power-up will Naruto get?

  • Bijuu Sage Mode

    Votes: 11 61.1%
  • Rinnegan

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Something completely unrelated to both of those

    Votes: 6 33.3%

  • Total voters
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Transcendence

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It doesn't work like that. Gaara lost a portion of his monstrous sand controlling ability. Bee would obviously lose his Ink jutsus.

Bijuu extraction causes the Jin - if he survives - to lose his Bijuu's abilities. Same goes with the Sage.
Your Gaara portion is wrong... He can still control sand. And with that said, there is nothing to thwart the possibility of Bee still having his Ink abilities.

But I'll just agree to disagree. I'm too tired for an argument.
 

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Alright....

Each Jinchuriki had certain side-effects from being the host of each Bijuu, correct? Naruto's whiskers, Gaara's manipulation of sand, Roushi's Lava Release, Utakata's use of bubbles etc... Fact of the matter, each and every single Bijuu had some kind of effect on their hosts. Now, would this not be the case for the thing that comprised them? The Juubi. It has all 9 of them inside of it. It must have some kind of effect on any host it has.

If you look at the Juubi's eye, it is a Sharinnegan; which in hindsight is a combination of the ripples of the Rinnegan and the tomoe's of the Sharingan. What is the Rinnegan known for? Being the eye of a god. What is the Sharingan known for? Being the eye of hatred; since it gets more powerful the more hatred the user has. What do we know about the Juubi? Kurama stated he is a God, and it has malice feelings; which if you extrapolate the definition makes it partially synonymous with hatred.

Rikudou had the Rinnegan, correct? How is it possible that a normal human is born with the eyes of the Progenitor of the world? Implausible, and down right impossible. It is said that Rikudou transcended Humanism AFTER he sealed the Juubi within him... Meaning he was a normal human prior to the sealing. Before you say, "How did Rikudou beat the Juubi without a power like the Rinnegan?". Look at what Hashirama has been doing prior to the sealing. His barrier was able to hold the Juubi down, and without Obito's interference, the Juubi would not have gotten out. It's safe to assume even with out the Rinnegan, the Sage was on another level. His sealing weapons alone were immensely power, as shown by the Gin-Kin brothers, who aren't even close to his prowess. The mere fact that he sealed the Juubi means his sealing was basically omnipotent.

Now, refer back to the "AFTER" he sealed the Juubi in him portion. To culminate this, what did I say each Bijuu did to their hosts? Had effects on them. The strongest of them all is bound to bestow power on its host. And this is where Rikudou got his Rinnegan from. Now my "hypothesis" is that, if someone were to get the chakra of the tailed beasts separately, it would culminate inside them to form a "Pseudo" Juubi, or in this case, would probably just make Kurama reminiscent of such, and the effects of it would be the same as the real Juubi; awakening of the Rinnegan. Take into account the Bijuu are what comprise the Juubi, so the effects all 9 of them coming together would have would be largely similar to the progenitor itself.

Also, before you spout the whole "Uchiha+Senju DNA", we have only seen one actual case of someone awakening the Rinnegan; that being Madara. With only 1 person to judge, that isn't sufficient evidence to conclude something as fact. There isn't enough actual "data" to establish it as such fact.

Again, I will reiterate, this is purely theory. I didn't expect somebody to be hostile just because of my beliefs.
Very well written theory, I give you credit for that, but I disagree. Partly because of what pat said, and because your information is inconsistent. Roshi did not receive Lava Release from Son Goku, he already had that Kekkei Genki, also Utakata's bubble's stem from his water release, and not Saiken.

And no, I wasn't hostile because of your opinion, it was do to you having an opinion without facts to back it up, you followed up with a detailed theory, so good for you.

But the Sage had the Rinnegan even after unsealing the Juubi from inside him.

It does not make sense that he would keep his Rinnegan if he got it from the Juubi, nor does it make sense that Madara could awaken it when he had no contact with the Juubi.

I am fairly sure Rinnegan was something the Sage was born/gained, and not given by the Juubi.
agreed.
 
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I hope it's not the rinnegan, which is very unlikely. We've had enough of the rinnegan.
I hope he gets the other half of kurama's chakra, and then he fuses it with his sage mode.
 

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naruto gets yin chakra and is now able to use those chakras together to make an ultimate ****ing sage beast roflstomper chakra god mode overkill toad summon.
 
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Very well written theory, I give you credit for that, but I disagree. Partly because of what pat said, and because your information is inconsistent. Roshi did not receive Lava Release from Son Goku, he already had that Kekkei Genki, also Utakata's bubble's stem from his water release, and not Saiken.

And no, I wasn't hostile because of your opinion, it was do to you having an opinion without facts to back it up, you followed up with a detailed theory, so good for you.



agreed.
Thank you, but it isn't inconsistent, even wiki agrees. Your sentiment about Roushi is wrong. Taken from the wiki:

"By borrowing the Four-Tails' power, Rōshi was able to use its Lava Release ninjutsu, created through simultaneous use of fire and earth-based chakra, to create a torrent of lava that can melt almost anything." Link:

Gaara:

"As the host of Shukaku, Gaara possesses the ability to manipulate sand, typically moving it through the air to serve various purposes."

And we know he isn't a Jinchuriki anymore, and still has the ability.

This kind of disproves your statement Pat.
 

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Thank you, but it isn't inconsistent, even wiki agrees. Your sentiment about Roushi is wrong. Taken from the wiki:

"By borrowing the Four-Tails' power, Rōshi was able to use its Lava Release ninjutsu, created through simultaneous use of fire and earth-based chakra, to create a torrent of lava that can melt almost anything." Link:

Gaara:

"As the host of Shukaku, Gaara possesses the ability to manipulate sand, typically moving it through the air to serve various purposes."

And we know he isn't a Jinchuriki anymore, and still has the ability.

This kind of disproves your statement Pat.
Wiki is fan written, Roshi has Earth, and Fire release, which = Lava Release, as seen here

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I agree with you on Gaara, but then again part one of the manga wasn't written with part two in mind, that's why some of the details are shaky, such as:

1)Gaara having a partial Shakaku transformation, rather than a chakra cloak like the rest of the jinchuriki

2)Lack of mention of other tailed beasts, and jinchiriki's in part one

3)Jiraya not looking after Naruto (and not recognizing him) even though he's his god father

To name a few. You also completely left out Utakata.
 
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