Do you think Minato was Itachi's friend or mentor

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lol leafeater went into alot of detail..but yeah what he said
minato might not have trained itachi personali but i think they would have met...look at the way 3rd ruled, he kept close eye one the "king", and seeing a prodigy like itachi i'm sure he would have payed extra care.

also, itachi said u dont become hokage then get acknowledged, u become hokage once u are acknowledge...so everyone would have known about minato including itachi, and itachi carries the will of fire so naturali would have immense respect for a hokage
 

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After Minato's death, Itachi and many kids His age might have ben inspired by how Minato died, after all one of the first rules all ninjas must learn is self sacrifice for the grater good and Minato seems to embody every good trait a ninja must have, how can not a child like Itachi at the time not be inspired by Minato's actions?
 

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The 3rd use to interact with the young shinobi of the leaf why wouldn't Minato do the same? O think Minato would have seen Itachi's potential and would have acknowledged him somehow. So maybe he saw Minato as naruto saw the 3rd. He's the model shinobi to take after and study. I think they would have met somewhere though.
 

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I hope that underline thing wasn't taking a shot at me because I did apologize and that would be a **** move considering that there are 5 topics about if that Rasengan is Naruto's.
I have no clue as to who you are or what you wrote, so no it was not a shot at you. Besides, that's not my style. I believe in diplomacy on these forums. :)

Edit: What do ya know. I reread the thread to see about this, turns out that you made the thread. I guess I just looked at the content of the OP and responded. As you have only 39 posts, don't be surprised that I don't know you. Next time send someone a PM, so the thread doesn't get clogged with this please. Thanks :)

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.) This sounds about right. I'm trying to remember Itachi's exact timeline off the top of my head. He opened his Sharingan around 8-10 or a little earlier, and graduated from the academy at 8 I think, and finally he made ANBU Black OPS captain at 13 from Kakashi. Minato would've been sealed in the Shinigami before all of that. Maybe he saw him at recess like Hiruzen did, lol. We know that on the night of Madara's 2nd attack with the Kyuubi, Itachi was taking care of baby Sasuke, 16 years ago. All someone needs to do is not be lazy like us and do a little addition/subtraction of birth years, lol. :) That'll take about 5 minutes or less to look things up and less than a minute to do the arithmetic in your head.

There's only a few ways I see them interacting and that's before Minato was Hokage (I'm sure he was highly influential before being Hokage and it opens the timeline a bit, albeit make Itachi even younger, lol), or while Hokage during the 3rd ninja war and shortly after, since we know that they both went through the war and it changed Itachi.

2.) Minato as the supposed "destined child" seems to have a way with words, based on his passing words with "A" the Raikage about Bee. Whatever the experience was, it was only something brief like this, there was no elongated relationship. It seems like a few passing sincere words from Minato can go a long way, and maybe Itachi got some. I think that's a large part of what makes someone a "destined child" candidate in Jiraiya's eyes, Possibly Itachi just watched him from a distance to understand roads to peace, his and Minato's.

2b.) Still, I think Minato left an impression on Itachi based on the speech Itachi gave Naruto in the last chapter or if that was just Itachi understanding his own successes and mistakes, or some combination thereof. Itachi is a genius, and I believe he could understand a person like Minato very well without ever interacting with him directly, he may have admired him or simply studied him as a person trying to achieve the same thing, peace, by a different means and comparing their success to see which method was better and what road to follow. Clearly, based on Itachi's speech and burning Shisui's eye with Ameratsu, Itachi has made that decision. While he's still a lone dog for the most part, facing Kabuto alone, he's entrusting things to others such as Sasuke to Naruto, Naruto to Bee, Naruto's friends to Naruto and vice versa.


P.S. Really, the fact that Itachi trusted Naruto at all with Shisui's eye, seems to me an indicator that he was already moving away from his lifelong direction of doing everything himself. I see no reason, he couldn't have programmed the crow with Shisui's MS eye genjutsu for Sasuke's 3-tomoe Sharingan unless Madara could simply dispel it. However, I'm not sure how Madara would know it's there, as while the Sharingan can see chakra and chakra flow disturbed under genjutsu (see Kakashi gaiden, when Obito recognizes Rin in this state, Shisui's MS genjutsu Kotoamatsukami is on a whole different level than some rock chuunin/jounin, and we only know that a doujutsu of greater insight, Ao's Byakuugan could see it used by Danzou. That doesn't mean the Sharingan can't, it just makes me wonder if it couldn't. Apologies, a bit off topic.).

Side note: While with Itachi and Minato it's hard to do, but I have more respect for Itachi in the latest chapter for his speech to Naruto. Not only did Itachi understand Naruto, but he seems to have understood himself, Minato, and many others, even if it took him being brought back from the dead for extra time to figure out the right path. I just hope he can rest in peace when this is all over. :)

Apologies for the long reply, I just started writing and kept going, feel free to pass over if you're not interested. ;)

Peace

Itachi passed academi at 6 , activated sharingan at 8, joined AMBU at 10 became it's captain at 13. Last two chapter clearly state that it was Shisui who was his real mentor and friend and it was him who influenced the course he took.

The lecture Itachi gave to Naruto was based on his own life experience and intelligence. We don't know how much he studied Minato. He may have had tactical info on him for his own purpose, but not much about his personality. He has seen too many OPed shinobies in his life and even after death. No Akatsuki member was odinary and no edos are. Itachi saw the sanins, Kages.. He would have learned himself with age. He couldn't have been more than 15-16 at the time of the Massacre. Maybe less.

Latest chapters really add to personalities and abilites of Itachi and Nagato. It's about giving the Edo's a bit of closer and detail them a bit. Most of these character play short roles in the manga, yet they are important turning points of the story. For example- Hanzou's action led to Nagato turning into Pain. As Pain he killed Jiraiya.

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I dont think so. Minato was dead a long time before Itachi would be old enough to interact with the elite ninja. Naruto and Sasuke were 7-8ish when Itachi slew the entire clan, so the timeline for the two characters are off.
Precisely. Now Minato may have known and interacted Itachi since he was such a gifted shinobi at such a young age, but I doubt to the point he was his mentor.
 

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Ok i decided to help with the time line.

Itachi is 21 in the second part of Naruto, 18 in the first one. while Sasuke is 15-16 in the second one and 12-13 in the first one, so their age difference is 4 ish. Sasuke was born a little before Naruto so a little before the kyubi incident, by doing the math, Itachi was around 5ish in the kyubi incident.

P.S.:Graduated: 7
Sharingan: 8
Chunin: 10
MS:12( yeah, WTF, much of a prodigy?)
Anbu leader: 13(his only mission(S rank) as anbu leader was the Uchiha Massacre)
Akatsuki: 13
I believe he joined the Anbus for the first time around 11ish.
Hope i helped.
 
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1.) This sounds about right. I'm trying to remember Itachi's exact timeline off the top of my head. He opened his Sharingan around 8-10 or a little earlier, and graduated from the academy at 8 I think, and finally he made ANBU Black OPS captain at 13 from Kakashi. Minato would've been sealed in the Shinigami before all of that. Maybe he saw him at recess like Hiruzen did, lol. We know that on the night of Madara's 2nd attack with the Kyuubi, Itachi was taking care of baby Sasuke, 16 years ago. All someone needs to do is not be lazy like us and do a little addition/subtraction of birth years, lol. :) That'll take about 5 minutes or less to look things up and less than a minute to do the arithmetic in your head.

There's only a few ways I see them interacting and that's before Minato was Hokage (I'm sure he was highly influential before being Hokage and it opens the timeline a bit, albeit make Itachi even younger, lol), or while Hokage during the 3rd ninja war and shortly after, since we know that they both went through the war and it changed Itachi.

2.) Minato as the supposed "destined child" seems to have a way with words, based on his passing words with "A" the Raikage about Bee. Whatever the experience was, it was only something brief like this, there was no elongated relationship. It seems like a few passing sincere words from Minato can go a long way, and maybe Itachi got some. I think that's a large part of what makes someone a "destined child" candidate in Jiraiya's eyes, Possibly Itachi just watched him from a distance to understand roads to peace, his and Minato's.

2b.) Still, I think Minato left an impression on Itachi based on the speech Itachi gave Naruto in the last chapter or if that was just Itachi understanding his own successes and mistakes, or some combination thereof. Itachi is a genius, and I believe he could understand a person like Minato very well without ever interacting with him directly, he may have admired him or simply studied him as a person trying to achieve the same thing, peace, by a different means and comparing their success to see which method was better and what road to follow. Clearly, based on Itachi's speech and burning Shisui's eye with Ameratsu, Itachi has made that decision. While he's still a lone dog for the most part, facing Kabuto alone, he's entrusting things to others such as Sasuke to Naruto, Naruto to Bee, Naruto's friends to Naruto and vice versa.


P.S. Really, the fact that Itachi trusted Naruto at all with Shisui's eye, seems to me an indicator that he was already moving away from his lifelong direction of doing everything himself. I see no reason, he couldn't have programmed the crow with Shisui's MS eye genjutsu for Sasuke's 3-tomoe Sharingan unless Madara could simply dispel it. However, I'm not sure how Madara would know it's there, as while the Sharingan can see chakra and chakra flow disturbed under genjutsu (see Kakashi gaiden, when Obito recognizes Rin in this state, Shisui's MS genjutsu Kotoamatsukami is on a whole different level than some rock chuunin/jounin, and we only know that a doujutsu of greater insight, Ao's Byakuugan could see it used by Danzou. That doesn't mean the Sharingan can't, it just makes me wonder if it couldn't. Apologies, a bit off topic.).

Side note: While with Itachi and Minato it's hard to do, but I have more respect for Itachi in the latest chapter for his speech to Naruto. Not only did Itachi understand Naruto, but he seems to have understood himself, Minato, and many others, even if it took him being brought back from the dead for extra time to figure out the right path. I just hope he can rest in peace when this is all over. :)

Apologies for the long reply, I just started writing and kept going, feel free to pass over if you're not interested. ;)

Peace
Superb way of explaining all the facts.


Itachi passed academi at 6 , activated sharingan at 8, joined AMBU at 10 became it's captain at 13. Last two chapter clearly state that it was Shisui who was his real mentor and friend and it was him who influenced the course he took.

The lecture Itachi gave to Naruto was based on his own life experience and intelligence. We don't know how much he studied Minato. He may have had tactical info on him for his own purpose, but not much about his personality. He has seen too many OPed shinobies in his life and even after death. No Akatsuki member was odinary and no edos are. Itachi saw the sanins, Kages.. He would have learned himself with age. He couldn't have been more than 15-16 at the time of the Massacre. Maybe less.

Latest chapters really add to personalities and abilites of Itachi and Nagato. It's about giving the Edo's a bit of closer and detail them a bit. Most of these character play short roles in the manga, yet they are important turning points of the story. For example- Hanzou's action led to Nagato turning into Pain. As Pain he killed Jiraiya.

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Ok i decided to help with the time line.

Itachi is 21 in the second part of Naruto, 18 in the first one. while Sasuke is 15-16 in the second one and 12-13 in the first one, so their age difference is 4 ish. Sasuke was born a little before Naruto so a little before the kyubi incident, by doing the math, Itachi was around 5ish in the kyubi incident.

P.S.:Graduated: 7
Sharingan: 8
Chunin: 10
MS:12( yeah, WTF, much of a prodigy?)
Anbu leader: 13(his only mission(S rank) as anbu leader was the Uchiha Massacre)
Akatsuki: 13
I believe he joined the Anbus for the first time around 11ish.
Hope i helped.
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Itachi witness the third great ninja war at age four. He was traumatized by the countless deaths in the war and wanted only peace ever since.

Yondaime Minato was responsible for ending the third great war. Minato's actions and presence brought the third great ninja war to an end. If you want evidence for this just read kakashi gaiden.

Since Itachi didn't want to experience anymore deaths from the third great ninja war. He probably wanted it to end desperately.

Konoha probably gave the recognition to Minato as the man who ended the Third Great Ninja War

Once Itachi heard that Minato was the man who ended the third ninja war and that because of his actions during the third great ninja war, he was granted to be hokage. Itachi probably wanted to meet such a man.

Where I am going with this? I am saying that Itachi was close to Minato because Minato helped Itachi erase his nightmare. Minato ended Itachi's nightmare and for this. Itachi probably wanted to be close to Minato. Since Minato is a friendly person, Minato accepted Itachi as his friend or as his son since Itachi was young.
 

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Minato might have knew him but not on a personally level. Kushina and Mikoto (who was totally hot btw) were friends so surely Minato must have seen Itachi from time to time
 
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Minato was the mentor of Kakashi, Rin, and Obito.

Itachi was young at that age, when Naruto was born Itachi was only 5, that's also when Minato died.
 

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could be possible but more than likely not Itachi was kinda young he could have looked up to Minato from hearing about him cause of his stature.. possibly ran into him once or twice had some small talk but.. So 2 answer your question more than likely not but then again it seems every new chapter in the Manga everyone has kicked it with Minato... as if they were best friends and some kind of life long lesson was to be shared.
 

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Yeah you guys are all right on the dot. I was wrong because I didn't realise how young Itachi was. I just find Itachi's personality very similar to Minato's. The calm and cool type that would sacrifice themselves for peace. Both were called failures because they sacrificed themselves when many thought they were strong enough to do anything they wanted without sacrifice but that is another similarity even as godly as both were they were very humble about there strength. I figured since they were a lot a like and were both the strongest in the villiage at one point that Minato might have mentored Itachi. However its like you guys said with the time line the way it is they most likely didn't know each other very good. However just imagine if both still were in the leaf villiage no body could mess with the Hokage and the leader of the Anbu. Orochimaru would have been way to scared to attack the villiage.
 
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