Do you think Madara would still have Susano'o if his eyes hadn't failed?

[chopstickchakra]

In order to activate Susano'o you need three things. Mangekyo Sharingan AND Amaterasu AND Tsuyomi. If you have two of the three sorry about your luck and no it is not a random MS ability like some think. Disagree? Check here.

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Both Izuna and Madara had unlocked MS, what I am asking is do you think they had a situation like Itachi and Sasuke where Sasuke had one element needed(amaterasu) for Susano'o and Itachi had both so upon transplanting Itachi's eyes Sasuke gained the second power(Tsukyomi)?

In the story Itachi told Sasuke He says the younger brothers eyes found an inextinguishable light, which means Izunas powers were now active in Madaras body. If Madara had kept his original eyes and not worn them out than it is likely he would not have had the requirements for Susano'o as we never see him use it against Hashirama until after Izuna's death.

I think if it wasn't for Madara taking Izunas eyes he never would have unlocked Susano'o I know a lot of Madara fans will disagree. I'm not sure, however, if Izua had the ability for Susano'o on his own the same way Itachi did or not but if so it would make a good parallel, Sasuke=Madara=confused by hatred & Itachi=Izuna=gave brother eyes to help him.

What do you guys think Would Madara still have unlocked Susano'o if he hadn't worn out his eyes and taken Izunas?

Also was the part where Itachi told Sasuke that Madara took his brothers eyes true or was Hashirama telling the truth when he said Izuna died fighting Tobirama and Madara got his eyes after his death?

 

[The7thHokage]

Susanoo' can be achieved without EMS, you only need MS, and you have to be skilled at using it.

Whats the question for ?

 

[chopstickchakra]

Susanoo' can be achieved without EMS, you only need MS, and you have to be skilled at using it.

Whats the question for ?

The question is Madara didn't show Susano'o with his MS only after gaining Izunas and making EMS the same as Sasue did, Do you think he had Susano'o on his own MS?

Edit and you know Naruto is gonna be the 6th Hokage right?

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

I think madara had susanoo before taking ms from izuna! :I but then according to hashirama's flashback he is shown with susanoo after izuna death saying how izuna gave him this present and to protect the clan so maybe with all this madara got susanoo AFTER Izuna's death,

Hashirama was right, Madara even admit izuna left his eyes for him AND his powers so you"re fight my bro

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[The7thHokage]

The question is Madara didn't show Susano'o with his MS only after gaining Izunas and making EMS the same as Sasue did, Do you think he had Susano'o on his own MS?

Edit and you know Naruto is gonna be the 6th Hokage right?

Maybe cuz he didnt know how to use it. Some theory, i dont remember whose exactly, said that Ninjutsu was not used as much as now in the time when Madara had his MS, and that they relied on Kenjutsu and Tijutsu, so maybe thats why.

If you are asking about the name, i chose it around the time where i thought there will be a sixth Hokage, and that tsunade was gonna die, and since there will be a sixth i believed Naruto will be 7th

 

[ShisuiReborn]

I dont think were ever really told exactly what techniques Madara could use with his original MS. If he was like Itachi, then yes, he could have. But he may not have had both required techniques. Chances are he needed one or the other since he never did show it until he had EMS, like Sasuke did. Just not enough background info on his original MS.