Do you think it's difficult to be a good person?

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yo honestly its harder for me to be good personally. im just going to be completely honest since i have the chance here and only people that care will read all of this..

but the level of fame ive achieved comes with a lot of temptation and is toxic mentally, i am a Sith but i try to be a good person but its harder, some people are just heroes, like i dont have that but i admire it and try to be. for perspective, i have more fans and listeners on streaming services than populations of multiple provinces in Canada combined. actually the two biggest cities here in the U.S. NYC and L.A. i have more followers on instagram alone than both of their populations combined. daily i just have people telling me how great i am or inspire them, amateur music artists aspiring to be like me. people i use to look up too, looking to me for advice and wanting to work with me, being offered thousands of dollars to do what i love or to make appearances, or to wear clothing, like i got offered $50k this morning by this brand to post a image of me wearing one of their shirts. i made over $50mil alone doing what i love, and ive only been on one world tour. i went from having zero money to having more money than anyone in my family tree, i could spend a million dollars a year for 80 years and still be straight. like ive lost all humility, im dope asf and ive mastered so many things. ive accomplished so much and im not even 30, i see other people and theyre full of excuses and are lazy, no kind of discipline or passion, their mindset is all fucked up. so many people are just not smart and i have to try to not be mean. but its easy for me to look down on others and make them feel like shit but i try my best not too

then like i was already handsome, charming and in great shape -before- i became famous, so i got pussy but...its like it increased x10 after, the fact. i have so many beautiful women trying to get at me daily, like i could so easily just cheat on my girlfriend, like i have to try to stay to my promise. actually before i dated my girlfriend, i was dating three beautiful women and rotating through them in a week. when i was in L.A. i was Vader. Darth Vader dabbled in the dark side but went full in after his heart was broke, that was me. i was breaking hearts, like i was such a savage, stacking money, buying shit -just- to flex and make others feel bad about themselves. ruining relationships by taking dudes ladies, buying lots of drugs, doing lots of drugs, playing mind games with people and manipulating them. i fully embraced my dark side and its always apart of me and its so much easier and more fun to be devilish than a saint

then just being wealthy in general. so much of me just wants to stunt and im petty, like i have to rise above, its so easy because i have so much power. like this publication wrote a straight just attack article towards me when i was in L.A. on their website i bought the whole company, had the head editor write and publish a retraction statement, have all of his editors apologize, then fired the chief editor and put the janitor over the editorial staff, then sold the company for more than i bought it for, the janitor got lucky he was actually failed writer so that. i was at an art gallery and this curator, he was such a douche. i paid gang members to jump this dude in the parking lot and throw him in the dumpster. like its so easy, i could have a hit placed on someone if i wanted too without doing anything. i just bought tickets for me and my girlfriend to go to the south of France tomorrow for a week, just cause, i wanted to buy out all of the first class tickets so i didnt have to be around anyone else. but i had to try and consider how that might inconvenience others. i can be a good person, like i just donated $100k to flooding in Sudan, Africa yesterday.. i own three apartment complexes and i waived rent for people that lost work during COVID last month and this month. but i had to learn to try and use my power to empower others rather than bring them down or enable them. i try though but its more effort for me
 
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Grape Ape I have to agree, being poor helps one's heart to be/remain more pure.
About money bringing in humans ugly traits, is sad to see that someone who used to be most probably kind and considerate towards others can become a manipulative one who only search his own fun.
Glad to see this has a reverse, wish you to keep trying to be good.
Is not odd to have "people i use to look up too, looking to me for advice and wanting to work with me" is like they are acknowledging your current level you achieved.

Also you mentioned lazy people, while you have talent you may not accept other people don't have or didn't discovered it. Mark Twain said if my memory serves me right that the biggest army comander was not Napoleon or other guys we know by reading history books but a poor cobbler or something like that who never had the chance to even approach an army. Circumstancies are important.

Keeping in mind your starting point is useful. You still are the boy who started with a beatiful dream. Compare what do you want to do with your dream back then and see if matches. If not then most probably is not the right/good thing to do.
A wise man is not the one who says he knows them all but the one who, after learning a ton, knows he still have to learn.
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I think it is hard.
When being good comes from heart, is not hard at all.
Good is a set of values usually put together by religion, see the 10 commandments for eg, or/and society.
Good may be a person who follows the rules of society just because otherwisehe will go to jail, or someone who lives carefree and respect these rules inconsciously just following his heart.
The first person may feel constrained, being good for him may become a burden.

What means for you to be good?
 
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Helping people and making the world a better place.
That's vague, the fuhrer was helping the German people rise from their oppression and ended up elsewhere. The atheist Bolsheviks tried to help the Russians by introducing communism and commited massive killings (10s of millions), chairman Mao and the CCP did the same. I can list more examples (recent ones), even in the UK and the US. They would still view themselves as helping people and as good, be a little more specific.
 

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That's vague, the fuhrer was helping the German people rise from their oppression and ended up elsewhere. The atheist Bolsheviks tried to help the Russians by introducing communism and commited massive killings (10s of millions), chairman Mao and the CCP did the same. I can list more examples (recent ones), even in the UK and the US. They would still view themselves as helping people and as good, be a little more specific.
I think that is my point, people try to help and do the right thing but they end up making a mess instead.

Even if you are doing good and you want to do good things, people might not think you are doing enough or the right thing.

If you are working at a job it's important to do a good job to be a good person imo. And that's difficult.

However you define good other people might have different opinions and if you just do what other people think is good that doesn't help either.

Spending all your money on homeless people could be seen as good but it's not very efficient in the long run and it's not easy.

I think you can define it however you want too then argue if it's simple or not, I don't want to set the rules for what good is.
 

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I think that is my point, people try to help and do the right thing but they end up making a mess instead.

Even if you are doing good and you want to do good things, people might not think you are doing enough or the right thing.

If you are working at a job it's important to do a good job to be a good person imo. And that's difficult.

However you define good other people might have different opinions and if you just do what other people think is good that doesn't help either.

Spending all your money on homeless people could be seen as good but it's not very efficient in the long run and it's not easy.

I think you can define it however you want too then argue if it's simple or not, I don't want to set the rules for what good is.
So you see the problems, just because something seems right and noble it's outcome or consequ3nces aren't noble.

I mean, let's say you think giving people money (example you used) will help them. Sure, they can use it to buy things, bit how are they benefiting society and themselves if they gain the free lunch mentality.

In my view there exists a general principle of what is good and what isn't. If something makes another person a better human being and teaches/establishes respect for others it is good, and if it teaches or it's result is the opposite it is bad.

"Socialism" has a good ring to it's but it teaches immorality disguised as caring. Loyalty to the state over your family, living off the wealth of others etc. To run the system forcibly taking from another's wealth/labour to give to another etc.

Let's say I want to do a community project that I think will benefit me and those in the community, is it right to ask them to voluntarily cooperate or force them🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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So you see the problems, just because something seems right and noble it's outcome or consequ3nces aren't noble.

I mean, let's say you think giving people money (example you used) will help them. Sure, they can use it to buy things, bit how are they benefiting society and themselves if they gain the free lunch mentality.

In my view there exists a general principle of what is good and what isn't. If something makes another person a better human being and teaches/establishes respect for others it is good, and if it teaches or it's result is the opposite it is bad.

"Socialism" has a good ring to it's but it teaches immorality disguised as caring. Loyalty to the state over your family, living off the wealth of others etc. To run the system forcibly taking from another's wealth/labour to give to another etc.

Let's say I want to do a community project that I think will benefit me and those in the community, is it right to ask them to voluntarily cooperate or force them🤷🏻‍♂️
I look at socialism a bit differently, you could view it as people forcing money from you and I understand that.
I see it as the government needs an income for a functional society and the question is how much and where does it go, I don't have a problem with moderate socialism tbh.
 

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Yes... Being good doesn't pay off in the long run because people often take kindness for granted. They don't see it before it is too late. They don't want what they can have any time, any day, and more often than not use you for it... They strive to be seen by the cool, more 'badass' looking people around, that they look up to and admire falsely, people that doesn't care about them. Those who throws harsh remarks and treats them like shit, because they feel a need to make that person accept them, which in the end, makes them even more lost. People have a need to always correct things they feel they can fix, they have to fix, and thus all their energy is spent with them, the bad people. It takes time to truly see who's good around you and those that really deserves your attention in the end, but often time it is already too late by then, those people move on. Be good sparsely or exhaust yourself...:lok:
 
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yo honestly its harder for me to be good personally. im just going to be completely honest since i have the chance here and only people that care will read all of this..

but the level of fame ive achieved comes with a lot of temptation and is toxic mentally, i am a Sith but i try to be a good person but its harder, some people are just heroes, like i dont have that but i admire it and try to be. for perspective, i have more fans and listeners on streaming services than populations of multiple provinces in Canada combined. actually the two biggest cities here in the U.S. NYC and L.A. i have more followers on instagram alone than both of their populations combined. daily i just have people telling me how great i am or inspire them, amateur music artists aspiring to be like me. people i use to look up too, looking to me for advice and wanting to work with me, being offered thousands of dollars to do what i love or to make appearances, or to wear clothing, like i got offered $50k this morning by this brand to post a image of me wearing one of their shirts. i made over $50mil alone doing what i love, and ive only been on one world tour. i went from having zero money to having more money than anyone in my family tree, i could spend a million dollars a year for 80 years and still be straight. like ive lost all humility, im dope asf and ive mastered so many things. ive accomplished so much and im not even 30, i see other people and theyre full of excuses and are lazy, no kind of discipline or passion, their mindset is all fucked up. so many people are just not smart and i have to try to not be mean. but its easy for me to look down on others and make them feel like shit but i try my best not too

then like i was already handsome, charming and in great shape -before- i became famous, so i got pussy but...its like it increased x10 after, the fact. i have so many beautiful women trying to get at me daily, like i could so easily just cheat on my girlfriend, like i have to try to stay to my promise. actually before i dated my girlfriend, i was dating three beautiful women and rotating through them in a week. when i was in L.A. i was Vader. Darth Vader dabbled in the dark side but went full in after his heart was broke, that was me. i was breaking hearts, like i was such a savage, stacking money, buying shit -just- to flex and make others feel bad about themselves. ruining relationships by taking dudes ladies, buying lots of drugs, doing lots of drugs, playing mind games with people and manipulating them. i fully embraced my dark side and its always apart of me and its so much easier and more fun to be devilish than a saint

then just being wealthy in general. so much of me just wants to stunt and im petty, like i have to rise above, its so easy because i have so much power. like this publication wrote a straight just attack article towards me when i was in L.A. on their website i bought the whole company, had the head editor write and publish a retraction statement, have all of his editors apologize, then fired the chief editor and put the janitor over the editorial staff, then sold the company for more than i bought it for, the janitor got lucky he was actually failed writer so that. i was at an art gallery and this curator, he was such a douche. i paid gang members to jump this dude in the parking lot and throw him in the dumpster. like its so easy, i could have a hit placed on someone if i wanted too without doing anything. i just bought tickets for me and my girlfriend to go to the south of France tomorrow for a week, just cause, i wanted to buy out all of the first class tickets so i didnt have to be around anyone else. but i had to try and consider how that might inconvenience others. i can be a good person, like i just donated $100k to flooding in Sudan, Africa yesterday.. i own three apartment complexes and i waived rent for people that lost work during COVID last month and this month. but i had to learn to try and use my power to empower others rather than bring them down or enable them. i try though but its more effort for me
Umm don't take this the wrong way but who are you? Someone famous on NB kinda cool
 
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I think it's difficult to be a good person and still maintain what is in your best interest. I feel like I sacrifice a lot of my mental health forgiving people easily, being overly helpful.. etc. While I cant say most of the.time if the people I am helpful or forgiving towards would do the same for me. Unfortunately feels like being too good makes you vulnerable to bad people taking advantage of you.
 
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