Do you think immigrants don’t assimilate?

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I keep hearing that. They don’t assimilate. They don’t not learn our language. They don’t follow the laws. They look different. <—-


I get learning the language is hard. Learning any language is hard.

But the way I keep hearing this rhetoric is that they think their children won’t learn English. Or they won’t assimilate themselves. Of course they freaking do. But that’s just my opinion.

Are you more inclined to think children of immigrants stay like their parents?
 

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I think most immigrants assimilate or, at least, learn the language. They wouldn't be able to have a livelihood otherwise. Buuut, I'm speaking of America where you'd be hard pressed to encounter little towns full of "this" language or "that" language. I imagine this pressure may not be everywhere in European countries though.
 
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Nearly all assimilate in a way. They don't have to do so completely they may want to hold onto their customs and heritage which is absolutely fine. English ranks as one of the harder languages to learn and most learn it, all the kids born here at least. I work at a hospital and if someone doesn't speak english 99% of the time they have a grandchild there 24/7 interpreting for them.

All the immigrant talk about them being bad are just scare tactics to convince people we need to be very strict on who we let into the country.

They are not "Bad Hombres" they're just looking for a better life.
 

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Here is the thing, the answer is both yes and no.

Some do assimilate, others do not, some refuce to assimilate and embrace the culture of the new country people moved to. generally those that assimilate become productive members of society and are embraced by the average person (some dont however) on the other hand some of the people who refuce to assimilate become criminals in the new country and "ruin it" for everybody.

The problem (1 of them atleast) is people unwilling to give up on their privious cultures even if they are a hinderence to them and their families or if they are in direct violation of the new countries laws (we are generally talking about muslims here) and it's a problem that cannot be fixed because the people with the problem do not want to fix it.

if you ask me the only solution is to send them back to where they came from, even if their old country was or still is at war, because those that refuce to assimilate in to the new country can never be a productive part of it because they themselves refuce to be just that, and the new country should not be burdened with people that refuceses to be part of the solution. (the refugess wore the ones that immigrated there because they wanted a better life, yet they refuce to do their part of make it better)
 

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I think it is a bit of a fallacy to group all immigrants into one basket. My ancestral line is heavily German, and my paternal lineage is directly from Germany, having immigrated in the late 1800s. The Germans of that group often formed "german town" - they moved out into the territories surrounding cities and built communities that operated in much the same way that their townships back home did. They farmed, started up factories and mills, etc. While they were often proud of their German lineage and ethnicity - they saw this as being completely compatible with the goals of being an American. It was possible to be both a German and American in terms of culture. Members of my family, from both sides, would even go on to fight against Germany in the world wars that would follow.

All of this said, the Germans would hold their own English classes. Members of their communities, who knew English, would serve as teachers to others in the community who also learned English. Depending on exactly which community we are talking about, and what time period, children in the house were often prohibited from speaking German. It was considered imperative for the success of the community for the group to integrate with the surrounding society.

The problem tends to come from regions of the world where the very concept of law and order is different. The Europeans who immigrate to the U.S. largely saw it as the realization of everything they hoped to achieve from the French and other revolutions, which ultimately fell flat. Many of the people who left Europe were, also, the ambitious among their peers. The groups who immigrate tend to be younger, of higher intelligence, and of greater motivation than the background population from where they immigrate. This is a very different case when we begin looking at people who are smuggled in across the border to fill cheap labor and *** slavery demands. When they are brought in as part of a clandestine underground of operatives and social activists - we are discussing a very different group of people from those who are looking to move.

We are also discussing a different group from refugees. Refugees are very different from immigrants in their circumstances, and in their composure. When refugees are fleeing the consequences of their own social makeup, one must question the logic of then moving to consider those individuals citizens of your own nation with the power of consequence in governing and social decisions. Allowing the people who are being conquered by their own vandals to begin tearing down your legal institutions in the pursuit of some kind of equality is asking to be conquered by the same vandals.
 
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