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Congratulations u actually avoided the fact that USA is staring in the face of another possible great depression which will bring them down to the knees if they dont control their spending (Also yes, Wars cost money for those who dont know it) . . . . . Also any unprovoked attack on China will be viewed as an act of aggression and (unless UN plays the ultimate hypocrite) will mean less international support . . . . also as even *insert country* goods are Made in China other countries too will think twice before doing anything . . . . Also treaties, they are not unconditional promises of support and any war without the justification of self defense is viewed as illegal by International Law See:
A war of aggression, sometimes also war of conquest, is a military conflict waged without the justification of self-defense, usually for territorial gain and subjugation. The phrase is distinctly modern and diametrically opposed to the prior legal international standard of "might makes right", under the medieval and pre-historic beliefs of right of conquest. Since the Korean War of the early 1950s, waging such a war of aggression is a crime under the customary international law. Possibly the first trial for waging aggressive war is that of Conradin von Hohenstaufen in 1268.[1]

Wars without international legality (e.g. not out of self-defense nor sanctioned by the United Nations Security Council) can be considered wars of aggression; however, this alone usually does not constitute the definition of a war of aggression; certain wars may be unlawful but not aggressive (a war to settle a boundary dispute where the initiator has a reasonable claim, and limited aims, is one example).

The International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, which followed World War II, called the waging of aggressive war "essentially an evil thing...to initiate a war of aggression...is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."[2] Article 39 of the United Nations Charter provides that the UN Security Council shall determine the existence of any act of aggression and "shall make recommendations, or decide what measures shall be taken in accordance with Articles 41 and 42, to maintain or restore international peace and security".

The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court refers to the crime of aggression as one of the “most serious crimes of concern to the international community”, and provides that the crime falls within the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC). However, the Rome Statute stipulates that the ICC may not exercise its jurisdiction over the crime of aggression until such time as the states parties agree on a definition of the crime and set out the conditions under which it may be prosecuted. At the Review Conference in June 11, 2010 a total of 111 State Parties to the Court agreed by consensus to adopt a resolution accepting the definition of the crime and the conditions for the exercise of jurisdiction over this crime.[3] The relevant amendments to the Statute, however has not been entered into force yet as of May 14, 2012.



Thats why wise people just wait and watch . . . . . .

Also some of US are actually from those ally countries and thus know the mind set here . . . . none of us will bust our @$$ and lives without a proper justification. U American people dont even flinch when your soldiers were fighting not one but TWO wars (funnily u guys wre protesting for tax reduction and such) . . . . war for the rest of us have serious consequences both Economic and Civil.

Honestly you know little of our stand points and Alliances.

In the past 10 years. In our act of War on Terror we have had everyone from Canada to Ukraine and everyone in between helping us.
 

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We won't so sit still and continue to watch us. Not trying to be a **** but it's true. If we fall, the world falls with us. :D

Edit: Double post sorry I thought it would merge.
 

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Who's gonna be handing out human rights infringements during a world war scenario? The people were robbing? Oh no!! They wouldn't destroy their supplies they would try and use them and they'd be taken. Stalin stole untold amounts of grain from some small country did the people burn the food themselves? Nope they tried to hold onto their possessions and were robbed. Yes we robbed Iraq and Afghanistan too we just don't report it duh. @star grim sigh. They have a lot of money and a weak military. That's like saying a mugger wouldn't dare rob a elderly woman who carries thousands of dollars in her purse.
 

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Soulkiller one day every country falls because humans will not exist forever. That was an obvious statement by you.
 

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what ever dude, you know I couldn't care less what brat like you think or says here on anime forum, just let it all out, it's a cool story bro

your telling me something about Chinese army... you didn't even understand or read what I said. Your idiot who probably don't read what others have to say :D
 

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The U.S. will not fall into another great depression buddy. Some of you need to read up, catch up and stop being ignorant. As much as you want us too, we won't fall into another depression sorry.

But your few trillion dollar debt is not disappearing in a hurry not mention the 'they took our jobs' problem along with stuff like welfare issues and immigration problems etc ..... also I hate the typical everyone-hates-us-cos-their-jealous complex: U think if America's economy falls, all of the world will sit back and enjoy? Slight changes.... slightest of them can leave kings beggars and middle men kings and u think a total power shift wld not affect everything? America is supposed to be the World Leader not what it is nowadays....

This ^^ one day the USA will fall.

No it wont fall..... it will either devour itself or just burn untill it rises anew from the ashes.

Who's gonna be handing out human rights infringements during a world war scenario? The people were robbing? Oh no!! They wouldn't destroy their supplies they would try and use them and they'd be taken. Stalin stole untold amounts of grain from some small country did the people burn the food themselves? Nope they tried to hold onto their possessions and were robbed. Yes we robbed Iraq and Afghanistan too we just don't report it duh. @star grim sigh. They have a lot of money and a weak military. That's like saying a mugger wouldn't dare rob a elderly woman who carries thousands of dollars in her purse.

Hah USA stole from Afgans and Iraqis but how much? Did it cover the debt they have? (No rather more high teenagers and oil enough to last only a year if most {i m really stretching it})
Plus ur talking about scenarios where big bullies were taking lunch from the skinniest boy in the play ground . . . . But if u consider cases where two big bullies fighting each other (see: ) u may notice it is usual for them to spit on the candy they were fighting over rather than let the other one have it.

Also thanks for making the parallel for me..... as the mugger will probably get beat up by the bystanders and also the mugger will think twice before trying anything especially if he works in the same office as the elderly woman.
 
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what ever dude, you know I couldn't care less what brat like you think or says here on anime forum, just let it all out, it's a cool story bro

I'm not that happy with what some of the actionns the U.S.A. has done, but it's all true.

Heres the thing. We're not the only ones. Every country does this. Only ours has been more exposed.


@Anorien: Our debt really isn't as bad as the media has taught you to believe. Welfare? Immigrants? Wow. You took a year of government in High School to get this knowledge?

If anything, immigrants help our economy. Once they gain residency we get taxes. That boosts our nations wealth so much, not as much as war but it does a lot for us. What's that? Didn't you hear the U.S. has just passed differed action for immigrants. Our first steps, the youth immigrant and more will now be adding to our economic wealth. Just wait for a full reform. Our nation was founded on immigrants. Welfare is two sided so how can you use this as a cause? Go back to school. Learn from other countries text books and then you won't be so close minded.


Seeing as you don't know what you are saying or stating I'm done replying to you.
 
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heloooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this naruto u should be talking about animes and stuff

This site may be about naruto but that's why they have seperate sections so that if people want to talk about other interests if they want and if you wnat to read about naruto and animes just go to that section before insulting people's intellengence when you cleary made the mistake!
 

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Nah I read your opinions they're just weak. You can't win a war with a weak military fact. Countries rob other countries in war fact. The United States has more allies than china fact. We make money off of war that's why we keep fighting other countries fact. Do you feel the need to insult because your opinion is on shakey ground? @anorein16 we done you posted my post but had nothing to say?
 
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Nah I read your opinions they're just weak. You can't win a war with a weak military fact. Countries rob other countries in war fact. The United States has more allies than china fact. We make money off of war that's why we keep fighting other countries fact. Do you feel the need to insult because your opinion is on shakey ground? @anorein16 we done you posted my post but had nothing to say?

He doesn't know what hes talking about. Just ignore him. He just reads wikipedia and thinks he's all knowing. Even though it's an untrustworthy source. Our schools even teach us not to trust it.
 
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I'm not that happy with what some of the actionns the U.S.A. has done, but it's all true.

Heres the thing. We're not the only ones. Every country does this. Only ours has been more exposed.


@Anorien: Our debt really isn't as bad as the media has taught you to believe. Welfare? Immigrants? Wow. You took a year of government in High School to get this knowledge?

If anything, immigrants help our economy. Once they gain residency we get taxes. That boosts our nations wealth so much, not as much as war but it does a lot for us. What's that? Didn't you hear the U.S. has just passed differed action for immigrants. Our first steps, the youth immigrant and more will now be adding to our economic wealth. Just wait for a full reform. Our nation was founded on immigrants. Welfare is two sided so how can you use this as a cause? Go back to school. Learn from other countries text books and then you won't be so close minded.


Seeing as you don't know what you are saying or stating I'm done replying to you.

Actually I was talking about the current mental state of the populace not the problems themselves (they are easily solvable if people actually act)...... u of all people should know that a house divided against itself can not stand and the political blame game is getting rather ridiculous..... dont u think if the reds and blues actually worked together using the best of each then the WHOLE WORLD not only America wld benefit?

Sorry my language was unclear and I apologize.

He doesn't know what hes talking about. Just ignore him. He just reads wikipedia and thinks he's all knowing. Even though it's an untrustworthy source. Our schools even teach us not to trust it.

I read more than a few things and then make the connections so I dont think I m delusional as most....... but as a realist I ask u: If America mindlessly attacked any country as they pleased wld it have any allies? If there was a World War would the World Economy survive? Is World Politics as black and white as ThomasJeffersonwasasadist thinks it is?
 
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No it didn't cover the debt it's called imperialism. We will be making money off of those countries till the sun explodes its an investment. Despite the size of the countries fighting there are always spoils of war they can't destroy every natural resource they have and if they did they would be doing our job for us. Sorry again friend there are no bystandards in a world war scenario those bystandards are other countries that are allied with us that also want a piece of the pie. The rich old woman is over powered and has more enemies than friends in this scenario.@anorein16 wow politicians argue how mind blowing. It's happened since we became a country and yes I do agree they need to work together but take ww1 or ww2 as an example our country rallies in the face of a powerful enemy.
 
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Yeah. The whole world should start doing that as well. Look into your own country and others. See anything familiar? We are not the only ones. Trust me we try.
 

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I can understand your patriotic feelings, but the only reason the U.S. would engage in a war , is money. So there won't be any wars with China. Because you can't make money from a country to which you owe money. It doesn't work that way.

So simply there isn't going to be any war between the 2 and that's why the chinese have the upper hand.
 

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Yeah. The whole world should start doing that as well. Look into your own country and others. See anything familiar? We are not the only ones. Trust me we try.

That why other countries look up to USA..... They gave us the idea of Libery and now they reduced to simply some Businessmen.

No it didn't cover the debt it's called imperialism. We will be making money off of those countries till the sun explodes its an investment. Despite the size of the countries fighting there are always spoils of war they can't destroy every natural resource they have and if they did they would be doing our job for us. Sorry again friend there are no bystandards in a world war scenario those bystandards are other countries that are allied with us that also want a piece of the pie. The rich old woman is over powered and has more enemies than friends in this scenario.@anorein16 wow politicians argue how mind blowing. It's happened since we became a country and yes I do agree they need to work together but take ww1 or ww2 as an example our country rallies in the face of a powerful enemy.

Finally despite all the talks about Liberty and such its all about money . . . . The fruit seemingly did not fall far from the tree and thats what worries me.
 
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I know there will be no war. And yes you can make money off of a country you owe money to just like you can owe someone 20$ and decide to just punch him and take 60$ out of his wallet. Yes we normally only fight for money I agree.@anoroien16 I never said it wasn't about money
 
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I know there will be no war. And yes you can make money off of a country you owe money to just like you can owe someone 20$ and decide to just punch him and take 60$ out of his wallet. Yes we normally only fight for money I agree.

You could do that, but you wouldn't be able to if he could partially decide whether you attack him or not.

If you get what I am saying.
 

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I know there will be no war. And yes you can make money off of a country you owe money to just like you can owe someone 20$ and decide to just punch him and take 60$ out of his wallet. Yes we normally only fight for money I agree.

Thus u lose your Honor...... just remember the Brits did the same and they were replaced.
 

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I'm sorry kyo4 I don't know what your saying we have a muuuuuch larger navy and Air Force and more allies that could assist with fighting and supplies. We could also steal supplies after having neutralized their military. Germany has done it, Japan did it, Russia did it. Conquest fuels conquest. @anoreian16 no country is honorable they all make war and Britain is still an empire with remarkable power and influence for a population so small.
 
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