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China uses old fighter jets. Sour Korea india and Japan are very close allies of ours and do you know jack **** about Taiwan? The Chinese consider it a rebellious province they would help us to solidify their independence. How exactly did you prove me wrong you keep dodging the facts china has fewer allies and an insignificant navy/air force.
 

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jack **** ? haha... some one is losing control? :D smart **** ... and no... china is not using old fighter jets lmao


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Yes they are their gradually updating. Losing control nah just amused by your ignorance of the state of chinas military readiness. Weak navy weak Air Force few allies. Spend five minutes looking up war scenarios we sink all your ships blow up all your planes then yall finally repel an invasion. add all our allies into it and yall are working for 2 cents an hour instead of five after your country is wrecked Sorry :(
 
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Yes they are their gradually updating. Losing control nah just amused by your ignorance of the state of chinas military readiness. Weak navy weak Air Force few allies. Spend five minutes looking up war scenarios we sink all your ships blow up all your planes then yall finally repel an invasion. add all our allies into it and yall are working for 2 cents an hour instead of five after your country is wrecked Sorry :(

Such tactics didnt work in Vietnam...... plus China does not have to come to USA soil to cause trouble they can just choose to stop any form of service they provide to USA and in a few days the common (the senseless lot) people wld do the rest of their work (war is straight forwar, politics and economy is not so) ..........and if USA wants to come to main land China..... do remember not playing in home ground is a difficult task.

Plus do note that USA is already deep in debt from fighting some small fries (compared to China).....
 
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Yes they are their gradually updating. Losing control nah just amused by your ignorance of the state of chinas military readiness. Weak navy weak Air Force few allies. Spend five minutes looking up war scenarios we sink all your ships blow up all your planes then yall finally repel an invasion. add all our allies into it and yall are working for 2 cents an hour instead of five after your country is wrecked Sorry :(

Those non-nuclear scenarios are worthless because before you achieve that devastating defeat, the Chinese call you and say "It was fun while it lasted" :p
 

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The American people were against themselves in Vietnam and I believe we are discussing all out destroy the other country war. If we'd wanted to vaporize Vietnam it wouldn't exist today. China wouldn't have to give us anything we'd bomb them stupid and take it. China doesn't have to come to America? I'll correct you china can only get to America if we allow it their navy is insignificant as is their Air Force. It wouldn't be just us coming South America, Canada, Europe, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea ,India and Australia would have our backs in an all out war scenario. China has Russia ,North Korea and no one else of note.
 

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@kyo4 we have more nukes and can tell when they're launching. Nuclear warfare is against international law. The UN steps during severe breaches of international law. The UN is all but about 10 countries on the planet and they would dog pile the country that starts a nuclear war to try and save the planet.
 

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Yes they are their gradually updating. Losing control nah just amused by your ignorance of the state of chinas military readiness. Weak navy weak Air Force few allies. Spend five minutes looking up war scenarios we sink all your ships blow up all your planes then yall finally repel an invasion. add all our allies into it and yall are working for 2 cents an hour instead of five after your country is wrecked Sorry :(

I lol'ed dude and you are calling me ignorant. First of all I never said who's going to win all I said is that real life is much more complicated most of the ''allies'' wont even move a finger... they will try to make peace and do ****load of paper work. My country? I'm European and I live in Australia. The only difference here is that I travel and see world.... you must be 11 and live with your perents...

ps. 90% of this world hate's america... your allies are with you only because of the profit... when it's gone... it's done :) Watch more movies .. in america
 

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The American people were against themselves in Vietnam and I believe we are discussing all out destroy the other country war. If we'd wanted to vaporize Vietnam it wouldn't exist today. China wouldn't have to give us anything we'd bomb them stupid and take it. China doesn't have to come to America? I'll correct you china can only get to America if we allow it their navy is insignificant as is their Air Force. It wouldn't be just us coming South America, Canada, Europe, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea ,India and Australia would have our backs in an all out war scenario. China has Russia ,North Korea and no one else of note.

If u put up a threat of a Nuke war or even suggest a all out war without provocation u will lose many many 'allies' . . . . .

Bomb them stupid? Cause more than a tiny bit of civilian deaths and u will put up a Human Rights issue and u possibly lose some 'allies' . . . . .

Also lol 'just take it'? U cant just take cheap labor (how do u 'take' labor?) and assembled goods (that stealing, but if u bomb them stupid those goods too will be destroyed) and your allies may have some bone to pick with USA for that ......

China's main strength is economy (well they also have a huge and skilled population), and u still didnt presented any viable alternative to avoid the economic consequences......

Please watch less Hollywood movies and play less COD and u may actually understand world politics....
 

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If u put up a threat of a Nuke war or even suggest a all out war without provocation u will lose many many 'allies' . . . . .

Bomb them stupid? Cause more than a tiny bit of civilian deaths and u will put up a Human Rights issue and u possibly lose some 'allies' . . . . .

Also lol 'just take it'? U cant just take cheap labor (how do u 'take' labor?) and assembled goods (that stealing, but if u bomb them stupid those goods too will be destroyed) and your allies may have some bone to pick with USA for that ......

China's main strength is economy (well they also have a huge and skilled population), and u still didnt presented any viable alternative to avoid the economic consequences......

Please watch less Hollywood movies and play less COD and u may actually understand world politics....

dont waste your time on him, he's from elementary...
 

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Congratulations your people will aid us in a world war scenario. Why do you think they wouldn't? We've aided all of the countries I listed in their times of need countries make allies to protect themselves from other countries. Ya know treaties? Say the word with me treaties. The reason people didn't aid us in Iraq is because it was an act of aggression against a weak country. In the event we face a serious opponent all our allies will support us over people they don't have treaties with. Try and understand this. You are ignorant if you think the Chinese military is modern. You said America couldn't handle the war that's not true. Yeah you seeing the world has nothing to do with the argument nice dodge though. About a third of the world is Chinese and they liked us enough to loan us trillions so your 90% claim is laughable. I'm in the navy little kid everything we have military wise shuts on china.
 

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We have hot dogs. : D

I really have respect for our veterans. National Security is our top priority I guess... I wish we took care of our problems then try to help others.
 

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I'm not talking about the politics of it I'm talking about military strength for the umpteenth time. I'm aware it would hurt our economy. And I was saying non nuclear war with china. By bomb them stupid I didn't mean everything I meant all military installations or any means of resistance. You can take cheap labor it's called slavery but the cheap labor part was more or less a joke. We would avoid the economic repercussions by robbing them after their military is defeated. No, allies share in the spoils of war. I don't watch movies and call of duty has nothing to do with war on a large scale it's about shooting enemies as a single solider something we will have to do relatively little of.
 
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Just read the whole thread.

Some of you Foos are talking about our military and alliances as if you know what's going on. When we go to war you can bet your asses our alliances will pull through as we will pull through for them. And this talk about China having an amazing military? Jesus Christ. Half of our Navy could turn their military into dust if they ever tried invading.

We have the biggest. Most advanced, best trained military. That's a fact. No one can touch us in this aspect. As for the economy, we are struggling, you guys can have that. It's funny though.. our "poor"live their lives in what other consider high standards.
 
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Congratulations your people will aid us in a world war scenario. Why do you think they wouldn't? We've aided all of the countries I listed in their times of need countries make allies to protect themselves from other countries. Ya know treaties? Say the word with me treaties. The reason people didn't aid us in Iraq is because it was an act of aggression against a weak country. In the event we face a serious opponent all our allies will support us over people they don't have treaties with. Try and understand this. You are ignorant if you think the Chinese military is modern. You said America couldn't handle the war that's not true. Yeah you seeing the world has nothing to do with the argument nice dodge though. About a third of the world is Chinese and they liked us enough to loan us trillions so your 90% claim is laughable. I'm in the navy little kid everything we have military wise shuts on china.

Congratulations u actually avoided the fact that USA is staring in the face of another possible great depression which will bring them down to the knees if they dont control their spending (Also yes, Wars cost money for those who dont know it) . . . . . Also any unprovoked attack on China will be viewed as an act of aggression and (unless UN plays the ultimate hypocrite) will mean less international support . . . . also as even *insert country* goods are Made in China other countries too will think twice before doing anything . . . . Also treaties, they are not unconditional promises of support and any war without the justification of self defense is viewed as illegal by International Law See:
A war of aggression, sometimes also war of conquest, is a military conflict waged without the justification of self-defense, usually for territorial gain and subjugation. The phrase is distinctly modern and diametrically opposed to the prior legal international standard of "might makes right", under the medieval and pre-historic beliefs of right of conquest. Since the Korean War of the early 1950s, waging such a war of aggression is a crime under the customary international law. Possibly the first trial for waging aggressive war is that of Conradin von Hohenstaufen in 1268.[1]

Wars without international legality (e.g. not out of self-defense nor sanctioned by the United Nations Security Council) can be considered wars of aggression; however, this alone usually does not constitute the definition of a war of aggression; certain wars may be unlawful but not aggressive (a war to settle a boundary dispute where the initiator has a reasonable claim, and limited aims, is one example).

The International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, which followed World War II, called the waging of aggressive war "essentially an evil thing...to initiate a war of aggression...is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."[2] Article 39 of the United Nations Charter provides that the UN Security Council shall determine the existence of any act of aggression and "shall make recommendations, or decide what measures shall be taken in accordance with Articles 41 and 42, to maintain or restore international peace and security".

The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court refers to the crime of aggression as one of the “most serious crimes of concern to the international community”, and provides that the crime falls within the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC). However, the Rome Statute stipulates that the ICC may not exercise its jurisdiction over the crime of aggression until such time as the states parties agree on a definition of the crime and set out the conditions under which it may be prosecuted. At the Review Conference in June 11, 2010 a total of 111 State Parties to the Court agreed by consensus to adopt a resolution accepting the definition of the crime and the conditions for the exercise of jurisdiction over this crime.[3] The relevant amendments to the Statute, however has not been entered into force yet as of May 14, 2012.

Just read the whole thread.

Some of you Foos are talking about our military and alliances as if you know what's going on. When we go to war you can bet your asses our alliances will pull through as we will pull through for them. And this talk about China having an amazing military? Jesus Christ. Half of our Navy could turn their military into dust if they ever tried invading.

Thats why wise people just wait and watch . . . . . .

Also some of US are actually from those ally countries and thus know the mind set here . . . . none of us will bust our @$$ and lives without a proper justification. U American people dont even flinch when your soldiers were fighting not one but TWO wars (funnily u guys wre protesting for tax reduction and such) . . . . war for the rest of us have serious consequences both Economic and Civil.

I'm not talking about the politics of it I'm talking about military strength for the umpteenth time. I'm aware it would hurt our economy. And I was saying non nuclear war with china. By bomb them stupid I didn't mean everything I meant all military installations or any means of resistance. You can take cheap labor it's called slavery but the cheap labor part was more or less a joke. We would avoid the economic repercussions by robbing them after their military is defeated. No, allies share in the spoils of war. I don't watch movies and call of duty has nothing to do with war on a large scale it's about shooting enemies as a single solider something we will have to do relatively little of.

Politics and War goes hand in hand in reality (not movies and games though) just as money and corruption goes hand in hand. Also LOL, Robbing them? Funnily u would taking away civilian population's livelihood by that, which would result in another Human Rights infringement (Also if I know war tactics, they wld destroy them rather than the enemy have it) . . . . also how is the spoils of war coming from Iraq and Afghanistan? Since only America perticipated u guys should be having it all, right?
 
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The U.S. will not fall into another great depression buddy. Some of you need to read up, catch up and stop being ignorant. As much as you want us too, we won't fall into another depression sorry.
 

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I'm talking about a hypothetical war and we never specified who started it. It was a recession it's not a depression the Great Depression saw 25% unemployment rates as opposed to about 10% now this recession is slightly more than common and is cyclical. You ever heard of the military industrial complex? We make money on war buddy and we normally take advantage of countries we defeat. Poppy production in Afghanistan boomed when we invaded and America is the number one consumer of drugs get it we invaded and started growing drugs to sell to our people to make money off the war we just can't report it. We probably also stole oil from Iraq. I'm aware treaties are not unconditional but in world war like scenarios we'd find our selves in everyone would be choosing sides to get some of the spoils of war. They would side with us because we have the biggest military and he most allies.
 

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are those guys for real? it's amazing :D allies will help, it's business and business only.. no money no funn and who got the money?
 
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