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your opinion is irrelevant because you dont write this manga, the one writing the manga knows his manga more than you. because people like you are having a high time accepting a manga fact, ill stick them up in your face
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he outclasses neji, and oro slights his genius near sasuke, will be mentioning his feats later
sasukes finished top of his class but was held in graduation because his team work was poor, non the less he stood above his peers and showed exceptional growth rate. sasuke is a bit of a late bloomer in regards to itachi but once he started growing shinobis like orochimaru recognised his potential in which sasuke as a kid was able to pin him down putting on a good showing against him. his dada paid itachi more attention but sasuke still learned his clans fireball jutsu on his own at 7 and impressed his father.
fail, he created kirin and his chidori variants, orochimaru couldnt tell sasukes chakra composition and he
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he was unaware so he didnt teach him those. nice try attempting to downplay that, saying its hand me down makes you look pathetic. besides how does him learning from orochimaru make him less of a genius? minato taught kakashi the basics, hiruzen taught orochimaru the basics etc you are so hypocritical to hold it against sasuke for learning from a teacher yet some of the people you put as geniuses also learned stuffs, theres nothing wrong in that. its not whether you were taught by someone but how fast you were able to grasp and learn and thats what differenciates geniuses from hard workers, sasuke is a fast learner so he definitely ties with what the manga portray genuises to be. and sasuke leaving the village was to get stronger so as to defeat his brother, i dont see whats wrong with that.and theres nothing wrong with that,
so what? you act like him seeing itachis true power will make him change his statement.
he was comparing sasukes genjutsu with tsykuyomi only,he said hes genjutsu is nothing like tsukuyomi, he was not comparing them overall, i like how you decided to twist everything so make your point seem better, pathetic. him calling sasuke trash and you trying to use it as a point is just pure stupidity as hes sasukes opponent so hes not going to say nice things about him, not to mention danzo is a scrub and funny thing is he was tricked by
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. so hes worthless opinion means nothing here and for you to use it shows how you were eager to grasp at straws. obito called kakashi trash, i guess kakashi is less of a genuis because of that? you see how retarded your logic was??it does not matter, fact is the statement was still made. uchihas power reside from their emotions which awaken their sharingan, the more an uchiha hates the more powerful his sharingan. sasuke had a lot of this hate towards his brother and his cm fed on that emotion hence his eyes became powerful and thats why orochimaru made that statement, his eyes were always to be more powerful than itachis due to his hatred and being indras reincarnation wereas itachi had a sickness so sasukes overall potential was always bound to exceed his own.
he didnt attack all five of them, and he wasnt planning to, he was only there for danzo. it was zetsu who sold him out as that was obitos plan. so he had to face them one by one.
once zetsu gave away his location, he was surrounded by samurais and later on raikage came and he was reeling as he taught sasuke sucessfully kidnapped his brother, sasuke had to battle him. since leaving orochimaru thats how sasuke trained, by being in battle. he was able to unlock his soosano from ribcage and enton. sasuke has had his moments were he didnt really plan things through properly but when he shows hes genuis state far exceeds times when he didnt and ill show that.
nh really? kakashis sharingan? his current ms? chakra hes using? rikoudous chakra? they are so not handouts.
this is retarded. the Ems is another evolution of the sharingan, a practice in the uchiha clan in which the transplanting of the eyes of a sibling is required. to advance of course sasuke will need to implant his brothers eyes, whats wrong with that? not to mention he was blind, what do you want him to do remain blind??? so sasuke carrying a practice which is natural in his clan is wrong? he felt itachis power but the power he displayed had nothing to do with itachi, enton? he already did that in ems, his soosano bared no resemblance to itachi. itachis eyes merely gave sasuke the leisure of advancing his soosano stages-legged and ps- nothing more nothing less.
you fail to mention the side effects of the cm, how it was encroaching on his chakra making him feel pain and always fed on his emotions, yet sasuke still learned to control it properly
he didnt accept, he took big difference. orochimaru being absorbed by him is not a handed power as sasuke was the one who had to defeat him and took his power, he definitely earned it. sasuke had a personal mission of avenging his clan by killing his brother, to do that he needed tp become more powerful so of course he would do what it takes to gain that power to put himself in a good position to achieve his mission, its a shinobi world afterall.
since when do you train to get summon? you make a contract and you can summon them simple. besideswhat do you think he went to do with orochimaru? sip tea? he trained and as well made a contracts with snakes, just because we didnt see him training doesnt mean he didnt, thats retarded. so you want kishi to show sasuke training summoning jutsu?? not to mention sasuke is a fast learner so stuffs like that are a piece of cake. same as hawk, he made a contract with one. sasukes has always had affliations to a hawk, as seen in his cm appearance and some covers so its no surprise he would get one.
which was only a one time fail safe amaterasu so mentioning this is irrelevant as sasuke later awakened his own ms
he had to use juugo not because he wasnt powerful enough but his techniques -no matter how powerful-wont have an effect on obito unless he posseses senjutsu. sasuke didnt learn senjutsu so what do you want him to do? he had to find away to get the job done and he did by recruiting juugo. he didnt ask for narutos chakra or anything and he didnt receive it because he was empty or, naruto was the one who gave him to link he and juugo up with minatos ftg. him having utilising juugos cm and having narutos chakra on him were both as a result of circumstances and not because sasuke directly sought for them like you are making it seem.
never go full retard, how is this a powerup??
him not deserviing of hagoromos power is merely your opinion.
basically this whole paragraph is very much hypocritical, you undermine his genuis because he received powerups yet theres a certain guy in your opening posts which you praise him as a genuis and he himself is not different than sasuke in poiwerup category, yes am talking about kakashi. obito saved his life and gave him sharingan which is borrowed, and because of that shit he gained his copy ninja nickname,and always uses it in his battle, its solely to that eye that he has been relevant since this war ark but you dont mention that. he lost the eye but obito came back and spoon fed him his chakra, which gave kakashi his double ms, gave him rikuodous chakra, his ps is as a result of that, obito literally handed him and has made him relevant. if sasuke is less of a genius because of supposed "handouts" then i dont see what kakashi is doing on your list if we go by your retarded logic. double standards on show.
he wanted them dead because of what their elders did to his clan and his bro. at the end of the day he heard the full on story from the sources and the village is important and is declaring to protect it.
so sasuke is going to put random folks above his clan?? a guy who takes great pride in his clan shouldnt seek to restore their honour by killing those responsible for their demise?
he resurected oro for a purpose and you know that, trying to use it against him is foolish. not to mention him doing that indirectly saved the alliance as the resurrected minato warped away the juubi dama just in time. nothing but good came out of it
its vey simple, he worked with facts before him, he didnt know why itachi desperately vows to protect the village, he needed the full truth about importance of village and its shinobit, got it from the source and now doesnt want his brother and his clan and village to go to waste. he wants to become hokage to change the system and make sure stuffs like uchiha massacre dont happen. its character development at its finest not that i expect someone like you to understand. sasuke s character is dynamic and not static.
thats simply his character.
it was a silly and baised thread, the hypocrite is actually you judging by some posts, you act like because hes a so called genius he shoudlnt make mistakes, everyone makes mistakes including some of the guys you listed in your opening. tobiramas actions towards the uchiha, him wanting to summon madara without hesitation to ask him question which was quite silly if you ask me, itachi tortruing his kid brother, telling him to kill his friend and embrace hate which was a retarded thing to do as that was the catalyst of sasukes decent to the darkness, killing his clan offfrom the words of an old scum who previously ripped off the eye of his best friend so he is obviously someone who shouldnt be trusted, etc they have made some not very good judgements but it doesnt make them less of a genius so dont be a hypocrite by singling out sasuke.
as for whether sasuke is a genius??, statements from the manga say so
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feats say so
- he learned the his clans fireball tech at 7 and was the only one of his peers to react to attacks from the demon brothers assault
- made kakashi take him serious, using the fireball tech which kakashi noting that genins shouldnt have chakra to use such techs as well as touching the bell.
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. -copied lees taijutsu and was able to match his speed without weights within a short time wereas it took lee a long time to attain it, thats what genuises do, they learns things quicker
-3t skilled enough to see inside naruto and suppress the kyuubis chakra
- tamed raw lighting creating a mountain busting jutsu out it which was stated by the databook to be above what normal lighting users could do with their own chakra, as well as taking chidori to a whole new level by creating variants from it, he also mastered the cm.
-covered kyuubi in soosano, same thing an experienced madara did against hashirama in their battle. sasuke did it same day he heard it from hashirama.
- has a good battle sense and a good strategist-figured out all deidaras jutsu formulating a hypothesis and having a back up plan, lured itachi outside and took taking advantage of his amaterasu to from kirin which surprised itachi, cleverly tricked danzo with a genjutsu, figured out madaras limbo, deduced a strategy to combat it earning some praise from madara
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.high tier shinobis praise him, hes been called a genius, he has solid feats so back it up, manga shows him as a genius so whateva you think frankly doesnt matter near manga facts so just deal with it.
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