Do you believe in Karma

[-Anna-]

Karma is the concept of "action" or "deed" in Indian religions understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect originating in ancient India and treated in Hindu, Jain, Sikh and Buddhist philosophies.

In these systems, the effects of all deeds are viewed as actively shaping past, present, and future experiences. The results or 'fruits' of actions are called karma-phala.

I try to be nice in all living things coz I believe in it.

 

[Xxmiku_loves_gaaraxX]

indeed i do believe in karma...

 

[Rei]

I am a reiki master/teacher in real, so i have to deal with my karma all the time to be able to balance myself and my life. Of course i believe in it, not that i have a choice anyways i even have an unhealable karma wound ><

 

[Sin]

well...not really...I dont really understand Karma

 

[Chavez]

I don't believe in karma, the concept of karma is rather unlikely to be applicable in reality.

 

[Ryu-kun]

Hmm not sure about karma,but i do hv insomnia )X lol..Actually yes i believe in it

 

[Rei]

~Moved to the general discussion~

 

[Shig]

I never understood Karma.Nope, I don't believe in it.

 

[Kiba Inuzuka]

yes i do

 

[-Anna-]

well...not really...I dont really understand Karma

Karma is the law of moral causation. The theory of Karma is a fundamental doctrine in Buddhism. This belief was prevalent in India before the advent of the Buddha. Nevertheless, it was the Buddha who explained and formulated this doctrine in the complete form in which we have it today.

What is the cause of the inequality that exists among mankind?
Why should one person be brought up in the lap of luxury, endowed with fine mental, moral and physical qualities, and another in absolute poverty, steeped in misery?
Why should one person be a mental prodigy, and another an idiot?
Why should one person be born with saintly characteristics and another with criminal tendencies?
Why should some be linguistic, artistic, mathematically inclined, or musical from the very cradle?
Why should others be congenitally blind, deaf, or deformed?|
Why should some be blessed, and others cursed from their births?

It's the effect of your deed or action....
For your simple understanding I give you example:
If you being nice to people in this community, you will get more friends..,If you being rude someone may curse you or worse you get banned.

Get it!

 

[settler]

I don't believe in Karma and Feng Sui too.

 

[Koo]

Karma is a load of crap

 

[-Anna-]

Ok if you say so^.^ no one force you to believe!

 

[-Anna-]

I don't believe in karma, the concept of karma is rather unlikely to be applicable in reality.

In this world nothing happens to a person that he does not for some reason or other deserve. Usually, men of ordinary intellect cannot comprehend the actual reason or reasons. The definite invisible cause or causes of the visible effect is not necessarily confined to the present life, they may be traced to a proximate or remote past birth.

 

[Chavez]

In this world nothing happens to a person that he does not for some reason or other deserve. Usually, men of ordinary intellect cannot comprehend the actual reason or reasons. The definite invisible cause or causes of the visible effect is not necessarily confined to the present life, they may be traced to a proximate or remote past birth.

Doesn't sound very solid there. I only take things for real when they are.

 

[Kiwii]

Well, as I said before, my beliefs are all about electrical sinapses and rotten corpses.

My application of the Karma phylosophy is a more basic one, that I don't use for the afterlife (wich doesn't exist).

During life, what really matter is not magical beings or unnatural forces. The real influence on your life are people. The bonds that connect eachother are the trigger for your happiness or sadness. It's more than natural that if you do good, people will respond you well, making your life happier. For me, Karma is not about 'If you're good, you're gonna win the lotery', Karma is about 'If you're nice, people will help you when you need'.

Maybe my beliefs in the afterlife (Hum... none) help me comprehend better the life we live, since I'm not drugged with afterlife or reincarnation that gives people a second chance. I just live while my brain emits signals, because once it ends, I won't live anymore.

You can only act while you're in action.

 

[Devlin]

Me personally I don't believe in it, it is something in which people attach their subconciousness to. Its like life after death,the thought of death doesn't appeal to anyone, so in my opinion 'life after death' was created to give hope,another example of this would be prayer. Man has always tried to find a reason or an explanation for everything in life,does it have to have a meaning?Does there have to be an explanation for everything?You should ask yourself this before throwing big words about trying to make karma sound 'definate' and that adding a word to a series of events makes it a fact? From the last statement you made it could actually be misunderstood for being an insult being de meaning to other peoples intellect, that karma is incomprehensible because of their intellect.Your statement has alot of ifs and buts making you sound unsure of your own opinion as stated by chavez.A very big flaw in your statement: ''In this world nothing happens to a person that he does not for some reason or other deserve'', what about people who are born into poverty?That are born into bad conditions?Raped,beaten,abused?A perfect example would be WWII with the holocaust?Did they deserve this?They all deserve this for some reason according to your statement?...Please re think this. Again this is just my opinion but us being humans we like order,structure rules (whether we like to admit it or not) its in our human nature to survive,its the survival instinct in all of us,to create false hope to keep us going in some cases. If you look at things logically you can work them out,but as I say not everything needs to have an explanation. For e.g. look at the bible its is basically an un evoluntionized book of laws to scare people in most cases as they were easily manipulated when it was created. Fast forward to present day its still in place but people have branched from it and created more laws and added consequences i.e. prison. This may get picked apart and flamed but tbh I think if your going to ask for opinions expect both sides to the story not just making out that something is 'definate' like it seems you're saying, its called being open to suggestion/opinions. Having freewill and an opinion is one of mans greatest aspects.

 

[Chavez]

Spoiler

Well, as I said before, my beliefs are all about electrical sinapses and rotten corpses.

My application of the Karma phylosophy is a more basic one, that I don't use for the afterlife (wich doesn't exist).

During life, what really matter is not magical beings or unnatural forces. The real influence on your life are people. The bonds that connect eachother are the trigger for your happiness or sadness. It's more than natural that if you do good, people will respond you well, making your life happier. For me, Karma is not about 'If you're good, you're gonna win the lotery', Karma is about 'If you're nice, people will help you when you need'.

Maybe my beliefs in the afterlife (Hum... none) help me comprehend better the life we live, since I'm not drugged with afterlife or reincarnation that gives people a second chance. I just live while my brain emits signals, because once it ends, I won't live anymore.

You can only act while you're in action.

Spoiler

Me personally I don't believe in it, it is something in which people attach their subconciousness to. Its like life after death,the thought of death doesn't appeal to anyone, so in my opinion 'life after death' was created to give hope,another example of this would be prayer. Man has always tried to find a reason or an explanation for everything in life,does it have to have a meaning?Does there have to be an explanation for everything?You should ask yourself this before throwing big words about trying to make karma sound 'definate' and that adding a word to a series of events makes it a fact? From the last statement you made it could actually be misunderstood for being an insult being de meaning to other peoples intellect, that karma is incomprehensible because of their intellect.Your statement has alot of ifs and buts making you sound unsure of your own opinion as stated by chavez.A very big flaw in your statement: ''In this world nothing happens to a person that he does not for some reason or other deserve'', what about people who are born into poverty?That are born into bad conditions?Raped,beaten,abused?A perfect example would be WWII with the holocaust?Did they deserve this?They all deserve this for some reason according to your statement?...Please re think this. Again this is just my opinion but us being humans we like order,structure rules (whether we like to admit it or not) its in our human nature to survive,its the survival instinct in all of us,to create false hope to keep us going in some cases. If you look at things logically you can work them out,but as I say not everything needs to have an explanation. For e.g. look at the bible its is basically an un evoluntionized book of laws to scare people in most cases as they were easily manipulated when it was created. Fast forward to present day its still in place but people have branched from it and created more laws and added consequences i.e. prison. This may get picked apart and flamed but tbh I think if your going to ask for opinions expect both sides to the story not just making out that something is 'definate' like it seems you're saying, its called being open to suggestion/opinions. Having freewill and an opinion is one of mans greatest aspects.

This is why I invited you guys. Not a single grammatical error, completely related context, and arguments that are supported by external subjects or by each other. I'm impressed.

 

[Rei]

The example anna posted was very simple, as some of you posted that you don't get what karma is about. It was a good example, but of course it raised more questions.

@Chavez: A basic statement of all theories/philosophies that support the idea of karma is that if you are solid you can't flow, and the point is to "flow." If you understand things, things are the same. If you don't understand things, they are still the same. So, you wanting a solid argument will not work on this topic as all the people who believe in karma -myself included- aren't interested at all in making up theories that are solid as even this word repels us.

@Kiwii: I would agree with your post, if you hadn't said this:
"since I'm not drugged with afterlife or reincarnation that gives people a second chance", as reincarnation, isn't at all a second chance, is a repeat cause you weren't able to learn the lessons you were supposed to learn. The point is to break the re-incarnations circle and live only one life, is not having other chances.

@Devlin: And what I said to Kiwii applies here also. The example you gave us is very interesting to discuss, although i doubt that this can happen here. Anyway, for people who believe in the concept of karma there is also the concept of dharma. Don't imagine them as opposites, but better as two things that complete each other in the same way the yin & yang symboli is presented. You can google it and you will find around 100 definitions for what dharma is, but i will try and give you my definition about it: Dharma could be defined as a moral law combined with spiritual discipline that guides one's life, in other words: our duty in this life. The main principles of dharma are:
Patience (dhriti), forgiveness (kshama), piety or self control (dama), honesty (asteya), sanctity (shauch), control of senses (indraiya-nigrah), reason (dhi), knowledge or learning (vidya), truthfulness (satya) and absence of anger (krodha).
Karma and Dharma are 2 concepts that have to do with our previous reincarnations and they have also to do with the lessons we are supposed to learn in this life.
With these I mean, don't imagine that karma is about punishment, you did bad things, bad things will happen to you. It's way more complicated than that and of course karma applies in the society we live in at the moment. The people who were killed like this from monsters like Hitler aren't karma's victims, they are Hitler's -and his followers'- victims.

 

[Chavez]

@Chavez: A basic statement of all theories/philosophies that support the idea of karma is that if you are solid you can't flow, and the point is to "flow." If you understand things, things are the same. If you don't understand things, they are still the same. So, you wanting a solid argument will not work on this topic as all the people who believe in karma -myself included- aren't interested at all in making up theories that are solid as even this word repels us.

You didn't get what I said. If you look at my post, you see I highlighted certain words in the quote. What she posted doesn't sound solid because she indicates she isn't sure of her own case. Things 'may be' and 'usually' are like that, etc. They aren't solid enough to support an argument with, you need solid statements, preferably facts, to support an argument.

@Kiwii: I would agree with your post, if you hadn't said this:
"since I'm not drugged with afterlife or reincarnation that gives people a second chance", as reincarnation, isn't at all a second chance, is a repeat cause you weren't able to learn the lessons you were supposed to learn. The point is to break the re-incarnations circle and live only one life, is not having other chances.

It's how you interpret the statement. Some people do think it's a second chance. We're discussing a subject that can be related to religion here, people interpret it exactly the way they like to. 'God hates fags' and 'kill infidels for Allah' are statements that many people say not to be true, however, there's also enough people that consider these a fact. Religion is interpreted the way people want to, it's merely a tool to control people with anyways, there's tons of flavors, all depending on what the starter of the religion intended to get done.

@Devlin: And what I said to Kiwii applies here also. The example you gave us is very interesting to discuss, although i doubt that this can happen here. Anyway, for people who believe in the concept of karma there is also the concept of dharma. Don't imagine them as opposites, but better as two things that complete each other in the same way the yin & yang symboli is presented. You can google it and you will find around 100 definitions for what dharma is, but i will try and give you my definition about it: Dharma could be defined as a moral law combined with spiritual discipline that guides one's life, in other words: our duty in this life. The main principles of dharma are:
Patience (dhriti), forgiveness (kshama), piety or self control (dama), honesty (asteya), sanctity (shauch), control of senses (indraiya-nigrah), reason (dhi), knowledge or learning (vidya), truthfulness (satya) and absence of anger (krodha).
Karma and Dharma are 2 concepts that have to do with our previous reincarnations and they have also to do with the lessons we are supposed to learn in this life.
With these I mean, don't imagine that karma is about punishment, you did bad things, bad things will happen to you. It's way more complicated than that and of course karma applies in the society we live in at the moment. The people who were killed like this from monsters like Hitler aren't karma's victims, they are Hitler's -and his followers'- victims.

And also here, it all depends on how it's interpreted. If you tell this to someone that is dedicated to the nazi religion (Esoteric Hitlerism), they will punish you for blasphemy. To them, what Hitler did, was completely necessary so that the Aryan race could regain the lands what once was theirs.