Do the sharingan has chakra in it?

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Do the Sharingan has chakra in it?

2nd Hokage said the MS is powered by the special chakra that awakened in the brain.

Some of you folks are saying Sharingan had chakra in it.

I think it is just a tool that drains the user's chakra to power it up.

Sharingan = tool

User's chakra = power supply.

This is why Kakashi be hitting the floor sooner after using the Sharingan.

So do the Sharingan has chakra in it?
 

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So you're saying the 2nd Hokage is wrong?
No he isn't, the chakra in the Sharingan is produced by the brain. When Sasuke transplants Itachi's eyes, the chakra his brain produced merges with the chakra in Itachi's eyes which is why EMS has both MS patterns.
 

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No he isn't, the chakra in the Sharingan is produced by the brain. When Sasuke transplants Itachi's eyes, the chakra his brain produced merges with the chakra in Itachi's eyes which is why EMS has both MS patterns.
Okay. So unless it is a one-time production, shouldn't the Sharingan ran out of the user's special chakra that was produced by the brain?

The way I'm looking at it, the special chakra produced by the brain turn the Sharingan into MS. Basically unlock MS mode. After that, the MS have 2 power source to choose from, the special chakra(yin chakra) produced by the brain or the user's own spiritual energy. If you're Uchiha, it will use that special chakra(yin chakra) that was produced by the brain. if you're non-uchiha, it will use the user's spiritual energy.

This would makes sense if Obito's Sharingan didn't turn into the MS while in Kakashi's eye socket, but i guess not.

Then if you're right and that Sharingan has chakra, then how the F Madara used susanoo with no eyes at all? How Itachi used susanoo with like no light in his eyes at all?
 

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Okay. So unless it is a one-time production, shouldn't the Sharingan ran out of the user's special chakra that was produced by the brain?
Sharingan chakra is permanent the moment it's awakened hence why Kakashi was able to use Obito's eye and why Sasuke was able to unlock EMS.

The way I'm looking at it, the special chakra produced by the brain turn the Sharingan into MS. Basically unlock MS mode. After that, the MS have 2 power source to choose from, the special chakra(yin chakra) produced by the brain or the user's own spiritual energy. If you're Uchiha, it will use that special chakra(yin chakra) that was produced by the brain. if you're non-uchiha, it will use the user's spiritual energy.
The brain unlocks all stages of Sharingan but yes non-Uchiha rely on the chakra in the eyes. And the Yin chakra Uchiha have comes from their brains because spiritual energy is derived from the user's mind and consciousness as opposed to physical energy which comes from the user's life force and stamina.

This would makes sense if Obito's Sharingan didn't turn into the MS while in Kakashi's eye socket, but i guess not.
Obito still had a connection to the Sharingan Kakashi gave him, he awakened MS when he was near enough to influence the eye, but imo that was a huge asspull.

Then if you're right and that Sharingan has chakra, then how the F Madara used susanoo with no eyes at all? How Itachi used susanoo with like no light in his eyes at all?
Because Susanoo doesn't rely on vision like Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi.
 
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So you're saying the 2nd Hokage is wrong?
No butcher was only half right. While it starts in the brain the chakra is transferred to the eyes. This is why techs like Amateratsu, Tsukyomi, Izanagi, etc are produced from either the left eye, right eye, or both. Each individual eye possesses the user's chakra. So yeah they have chakra.
 

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Sharingan chakra is permanent the moment it's awakened hence why Kakashi was able to use Obito's eye and why Sasuke was able to unlock EMS.



The brain unlocks all stages of Sharingan but yes non-Uchiha rely on the chakra in the eyes. And the Yin chakra Uchiha have comes from their brains because spiritual energy is derived from the user's mind and consciousness as opposed to physical energy which comes from the user's life force and stamina.



Obito still had a connection to the Sharingan Kakashi gave him, he awakened MS when he was near enough to influence the eye, but imo that was a huge asspull.



Because his brains produces Sharingan chakra and Susanoo doesn't rely on vision like Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi.
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Now how Itachi's blinded eyes become usable again once transplanted into Sasuke? Sasuke's special Chakra restore the lights in them? It would make sense. But how Itachi's speical chakra in the eyes are combined with Sasuke's special chakra when they was sealed away? Are you saying Sasuke's special chakra unsealed the speical chakra in Itachi's eyes and aborsb it?

No butcher was only half right. While it starts in the brain the chakra is transferred to the eyes. This is why techs like Amateratsu, Tsukyomi, Izanagi, etc are produced from either the left eye, right eye, or both. Each individual eye possesses the user's chakra. So yeah they have chakra.
Most of those techs are reflexes or programable techs in the eyes that just needed a power source to activate.

I think it is possible for other MS to learn Kamui or Amateratsu. Obitio just need to give Sasuke the code just like Itachi gave Sasuke the code to use Amateratsu.
 
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Bruh the 2nd Hokage literally said, "special chakra that sprouts inside their brains which causes the optic nerve to reflect the eye of feelings".

Chakra is what makes up the Sharingan.

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Byakugan users can see the color of the Sharingan's chakra. The Sharingan has chakra to see chakra.
 

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Bruh the 2nd Hokage literally said, "special chakra that sprouts inside their brains which causes the optic nerve to reflect the eye of feelings".

Chakra is what makes up the Sharingan.

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Byakugan users can see the color of the Sharingan's chakra. The Sharingan has chakra to see chakra.
You're missing the point. Of course the Sharingan is powered by the special chakra from the brain. But is it a one-time deal? or Do the user have to keep molding that special chakra into the Sharingan?
 

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You're missing the point. Of course the Sharingan is powered by the special chakra from the brain. But is it a one-time deal? or Do the user have to keep molding that special chakra into the Sharingan?
It is a one time deal. Once the Sharingan is awakened it is permanent. Why do you think Madara was able to activate the Susanoo without any eyes. Once that special chakra has been built up it is a done deal.
 

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It is a one time deal. Once the Sharingan is awakened it is permanent. Why do you think Madara was able to activate the Susanoo without any eyes. Once that special chakra has been built up it is a done deal.
Now you're confusing yourself. The opening question is do the Sharingan has Chakra? Not is the Sharingan is powered by Chakra! if the Sharingan has Chakra, then Madara shouldn't be able to use susanoo without the eyes. Which means The Sharingan do not have chakra, it is just a tool that awakened and powered by the speical chakra in the brain.
 

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nope, just like tap water, you tap cold it gives cold, you tap hot it gives hot, but the tap is just a tool to hold and tap water.
same to sharingan, it just a tool and the chakra going through it will change it's function. Just like big vein and small vein....
 

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nope, just like tap water, you tap cold it gives cold, you tap hot it gives hot, but the tap is just a tool to hold and tap water.
same to sharingan, it just a tool and the chakra going through it will change it's function. Just like big vein and small vein....
Well, All Sharingan leave trace of chakra from the original owner. That's why Shisui's chakra was shown.
 

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Now how Itachi's blinded eyes become usable again once transplanted into Sasuke?
Because they still had chakra in them, I said before once they awaken the chakra it's permanent hence why Kakashi was able to use Obito's Sharingan

Sasuke's special Chakra restore the lights in them? It would make sense. But how Itachi's speical chakra in the eyes are combined with Sasuke's special chakra when they was sealed away?
Powers are never sealed away because the Sharingan jutsu comes from the chakra not the eyes. Losing eyesight only means they can't use jutsu that rely on eyesight like genjutsu or Amaterasu, it has nothing to do with a seal technique.

Are you saying Sasuke's special chakra unsealed the speical chakra in Itachi's eyes and aborsb it?
He isn't absorbing anything, EMS is a result of Sasuke's chakra mixing with the chakra in Itachi's eyes. It's the same process for Rinnegan, Ashura's chakra mixing with the chakra in Madara's eyes allowed him to unlock new dojutsu.
 

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nope, just like tap water, you tap cold it gives cold, you tap hot it gives hot, but the tap is just a tool to hold and tap water.
same to sharingan, it just a tool and the chakra going through it will change it's function. Just like big vein and small vein....
The reason non-Uchiha can use Sharingan is because the chakra of the original Sharingan owner is inside it. All KKG come from the user's chakra and without it Kakashi wouldn't be able to use Kamui while Nagato wouldn't be able to use Rinnegan jutsu.

Obito's eye had Obito's chakra which allowed Kakashi to use Obito's KKG, Madara's eyes had Hagoromo's chakra which allowed Nagato to use 6Path jutsu
 

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Because they still had chakra in them, I said before once they awaken the chakra it's permanent hence why Kakashi was able to use Obito's Sharingan



Powers are never sealed away because the Sharingan jutsu comes from the chakra not the eyes. Losing eyesight only means they can't use jutsu that rely on eyesight like genjutsu or Amaterasu, it has nothing to do with a seal technique.



He isn't absorbing anything, EMS is a result of Sasuke's chakra mixing with the chakra in Itachi's eyes. It's the same process for Rinnegan, Ashura's chakra mixing with the chakra in Madara's eyes allowed him to unlock new dojutsu.

So you're saying Itachi's blinded Sharingan had enough trace of Itachi's special chakra to mix with Sasuke's special chakra to form a more power speical chakra the result in EMS?

Guess that do makes sense.

The reason non-Uchiha can use Sharingan is because the chakra of the original Sharingan owner is inside it. All KKG come from the user's chakra and without it Kakashi wouldn't be able to use Kamui while Nagato wouldn't be able to use Rinnegan jutsu.

Obito's eye had Obito's chakra which allowed Kakashi to use Obito's KKG, Madara's eyes had Hagoromo's chakra which allowed Nagato to use 6Path jutsu
Hold on now...Gonna have to disagree with this a bit. The way I see it is that each sharingan(tool) has codes(jutsu). It just need a power source to use them. This is why Nagato's chibaku tensei is ass compare to madara.

To further prove this theory. We know that itachi transfer amaterasu(code) into Sasuke's sharingan(tool).

This is why I think sharingan can learn all other sharingan jutsu. You just simply need the code.


The reason why rinnegan can use nearly any jutsu is because it can see any jutsu on a profound level...on a level where the code is practiclly written out for them to copy.
 
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