Do people even know how FAST the Susanoo is?

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-Kabuto dodged Susanoo... actually he kept dodging two of them.

-Kamui used by Kakashi and Obito is quick enough

-Naruto can dodge it easily

And there is probably more people who can out manevour it
 

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Nope. o_O

Gates are much faster, Raikage's speed punch much faster, Naruto's light speed punch much faster.

all those times they were caught of guard.
 

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Kakashi activated his mangekyo, figured out the amount of chakra he needed, used that chakra and opened the wormhole after the arrows had already been fired at him.

So much for instant, eh?
 

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It is. It is top 3 in speed in the entire Narutoverse.



Nagato didn't have to dodge it. If he had even seen it coming, he could have Shinra Tensei'd the attack and deflected the Totsuka away. It was so fast, that he didn't even realize it until after he got stabbed.


Nagato was completely controlled by kabuto and no where near full strength. Kabuto didn't even know all nagatos move
For u to say it matches the raikage u should also explain how kabuto was able to avoid 2 susanoo
 

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It doesn't matter if you can feel the attack coming, if it was almost instant as you claim he wouldn't of been able to dodge it so easily.

Like Lee said to sasuke, it doesn't matter if you see the move (or "feel" it in this case) Unless you body can react to what you see/feel it's useless.
Kabuto literally moved 3 inches and dodged the tip of the arrow. Moving a few inches while you feel an attack coming is not that big of a deal.
And I said it was 'almost' instantaneous. Big difference.
 

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It doesn't matter if you can feel the attack coming, if it was almost instant as you claim he wouldn't of been able to dodge it so easily.

Like Lee said to sasuke, it doesn't matter if you see the move (or "feel" it in this case) Unless you body can react to what you see/feel it's useless.

Exactly this^^
 

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Nagato was completely controlled by kabuto and no where near full strength. Kabuto didn't even know all nagatos move
For u to say it matches the raikage u should also explain how kabuto was able to avoid 2 susanoo

He was actually stronger under Kabuto's control..
 

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It is. It is top 3 in speed in the entire Narutoverse.

susanoos attack speed isnt top 3 in the NV, but its activation is probably top 5 (up there with kamui, 8 gates, BM, ama, kirin)
 

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Kabuto literally moved 3 inches and dodged the tip of the arrow. Moving a few inches while you feel an attack coming is not that big of a deal.
And I said it was 'almost' instantaneous. Big difference.

Even if you do discount kabuto dodging it, There's still Kakashi, and even danzo who isn't even know for speed.
 

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Kabuto literally moved 3 inches and dodged the tip of the arrow. Moving a few inches while you feel an attack coming is not that big of a deal.
And I said it was 'almost' instantaneous. Big difference.

He still dogde it and he dodged with his eyes closed
And almost islike 75%
 

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Minato isn't that fast. His ability is transportation. Speed and transportation are not the same thing.

according to the manga it is.

Raikage said he is the fastest since the 4th died.
 

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Even if you do discount kabuto dodging it, There's still Kakashi, and even danzo who isn't even know for speed.
When did Kakashi dodge it? Kakashi had to use his last resort jutsu and warp the arrow away with his eye at the last second. Without Kamui, he was a dead man.

Danzo didn't dodge it either, he tanked the attack with Mokuton.

In both cases, Susanoo was too fast for them to move.
 

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When did Kakashi dodge it? Kakashi had to use his last resort jutsu and warp the arrow away with his eye at the last second. Without Kamui, he was a dead man.

Danzo didn't dodge it either, he tanked the attack with Mokuton.

In both cases, Susanoo was too fast for them to move.

Ok then, They "defended" against the attack. Kakashi had time to activate Ms, Place his S/T barriers and warp the arrow.
Danzo had enough time to See the incoming attack and redirect the arrow.

The arrow is the fastest attack susanoo has, But it's not even in top 3.
 

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Susanoo was design for power only, susanoo is slow and it can easily be dodged.
 

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Ok then, They "defended" against the attack. Kakashi had time to activate Ms, Place his S/T barriers and warp the arrow.
Danzo had enough time to See the incoming attack and redirect the arrow.

The arrow is the fastest attack susanoo has, But it's not even in top 3.
lol You make it seem as if activating the portal takes Kakashi hours to do. Kakashi did it in less than a second since it was certain death if he hadn't. Afterwards, he couldn't even run because of the strain.

Danzo barely saw it coming, he knew Sasuke was aiming for his landing. He used Mokuton and exerted most of his chakra to avoid getting impaled.
 

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I do think you're over-hyping its speed a bit. The top speedsters can still avoid it. Susano'o arrow in particular should be given credit though. Danzo was forced to use Mokuton because 3 hand seals wouldn't be fast enough to save him from such an attack. Kakashi in term used Kamui to save his own life. But Kabuto, with his extremely boosted Sage perception WAS able to avoid it without a powerful jutsu. Now this feat was by no means indicated to be casual. It was surprising that Kabuto was able to dodge something at that speed: proof of his capabilities in Sage Mode.
 
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