[Discussion] do believe in the big bang?

[Skylar Knight]

nowhere does the big bang theory and evolution of man correlate

they are not related and it does not explain the creation of man

Your argument was that the human body and mind was too complex or perfect for it to be a coincidence. Then we countered that argument with the theory of evolution. The theory of Big Bang is nonsense to many people because there lacks evidence, but I personally am a supporter of it.

 

[guiltybird]

Not really. This world is too complex for a freak accident to create the earth. And if the BB theory turns out to be real somehow, I still think some entity created the circumstances for it.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

I don't think it was an accident but I think it's possible.

 

[rollin]

I think creationism is just as wrong as the Big Bang theory
In a way it's both

 

[YowYan]

Maybe the big bang theory is about the fundamental building blocks of creation at the moment energy physically manifests itself into existance. Not sure how to continue that..random thought was random.

 

[Jonesy161]

The probability of the universe creating the the fundamental blocks of life are 1 in 10^40 (which include proper planet placement orbiting mother star). There are over 10^25 amount of stars out there and the number is still increasing as scientists find more stars in chunks of sextillion. So the odds aren't too drastic to show that the universe can create us.

Also, these odds are probably not even accurate. By that logic, chance of us existing in our own galaxy is near slim, but scientists have apparently found a handful of stars with orbiting planets that have the correct situations to form life or to at least sustain it. In fact, that handful of planets reaches over 50 billion potential candidates.

So for the Big Bang to create all matter to form a nebula which forms stars which forms a galaxy which forms solar systems which forms planets with potential life is quite possible indeed.

 

[ANiMUS]

No, believe in God and honestly I can't get how people think it is more plausible that a huge hot mass was inexplicably in the center of the universe without anyone creating it or putting it there and said mass is the cause of the all the complex rules and workings of universe, than to say that a creator took time and care to construct it all.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Heres a truth for ya, noone will ever find out how we got to where we are. There is just no way its possible. So we should just stop worrying about yesterday or even tomorrow, today has enough problems as it is.

 

[Europa]

I subscribe to the "modern" big bang theory. Which I do believe is some convoluted fusion of the String Theory and Big Bang Theory, that does explain to an extent a start from near nothingness.

 

[EnDash]

just asking?...
i used to see the plausibility of this theory a while back before i entered med school...

but one look at the human body and i seriously doubt that.....that human body is one of the greatest complexity in life, how we, talk, feel, the way our bodies react to cold, heat, pain, how blood works, how organs work, how the brain controls all processes in the body, how antibodies fight diseases and all..... and how every process in the body is connected in one form or the other

it all looks to me like some sort of crazy design, like a genius programmer sat down to do some sort of homework and invented the human. do you really believe that humans are an accident of nature? that a very large explosion happened and life was formed?.. i seriously doubt

not just humans, every animal is like that, though like i said humans are the greatest wonder...
what do you think

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i actully kinda agree, i don't believe in god and i believe in the big bang and theory of evolution. but humans are somehow built in a way that seems impossible to make by chance. a very skilled and knowledagble doctor can know incredible stuff just by checking small changes in our body.

however, i think it can still be explained by very good luck and very long times. to believe in a creator you still need faith, for evolution and the big bang you can look and calculate and test. i personally prefer stuff i can know as much i can about because i don't have faith.

 

[Cycoresis]

Why wouldn't you? Evolution and the big bang are theories supported by nearly as many facts as the theory of gravity.


Think about it this way, the universe is 1x10^1000000000000000000000000 times bigger than the earth. It's statistically impossible for the correct series of chemical reactions needed to create us and this planet not to happen.

evolution alone took like 3 billion years to form the life existing now...thats a hell lot of time for stuff to happen by chance simply because of certain circumstances...in that amout of time pretty much every circumstance has happened thus creating life. thats why its also plausible to say that earth isnt the only place where this happened.

Seems more logical than a magic man in the sky making us :L

^^ Agreeing with all of those

 

[Third Sage]

Sure I do, as well as in God's Particle.

 

[Flakez]

Yeah cuz a white bearded guy up in the sky created us... That seems totally legit.

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

I don't believe it.

 

[Bronze]

I don't believe in it because its wrong. A concentrated mass that existed out of nowhere, then explodes creating the universe and expands until now.

First of all, objects cannot come out nothing because everything has its beginning. Therefore the idea of the explosion that had occurred some billion years out of nothing becomes wrong. Nothing can come out of nothing. So for the big bang to explode, it must have a creator however, scientist disprove the existence of god. So that means has never had a beginning which means it didn't have its space nor time which is necessary for physics theories.

Second, according to some of Einstein's quotes, this is very interesting one:

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For the universe to be infinite means it has infinite energy, size and everything. Now for the universe to exist, it must have had something exist before which includes space and time. The universe's infinite size and energy exceeds beyond human knowledge. For the universe to exist, it must have its creator who has infinite amount of power to create the universe.

That cannot be the big bang because it comes out of nothing and nothing comes out of nothing. So that means that something that had everything to begin with was no other than God. Some people will ask questions like how existed and some stuff.

-Infinite energy that creates the universe has to come out of nothing and backed up by ancient books that go million years ago.
-No one can create god because god has always been there.

This video should also clear things up:
[video=youtube;FToolbwnijk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FToolbwnijk[/video]

 

[TrueNarutoFan3000]

I don't believe in it because its wrong. A concentrated mass that existed out of nowhere, then explodes creating the universe and expands until now.

First of all, objects cannot come out nothing because everything has its beginning. Therefore the idea of the explosion that had occurred some billion years out of nothing becomes wrong. Nothing can come out of nothing. So for the big bang to explode, it must have a creator however, scientist disprove the existence of god. So that means has never had a beginning which means it didn't have its space nor time which is necessary for physics theories.

Second, according to some of Einstein's quotes, this is very interesting one:

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For the universe to be infinite means it has infinite energy, size and everything. Now for the universe to exist, it must have had something exist before which includes space and time. The universe's infinite size and energy exceeds beyond human knowledge. For the universe to exist, it must have its creator who has infinite amount of power to create the universe.

That cannot be the big bang because it comes out of nothing and nothing comes out of nothing. So that means that something that had everything to begin with was no other than God. Some people will ask questions like how existed and some stuff.

-Infinite energy that creates the universe has to come out of nothing and backed up by ancient books that go million years ago.
-No one can create god because god has always been there.

This video should also clear things up:
[video=youtube;FToolbwnijk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FToolbwnijk[/video]

I agree completely

 

[Cornson]

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so your saying that you don't belive in the theory of the big bang because of how the human body and the bodies of other animals have evolved?

Building blocks don't build themselves.If something looks designed, and if it's complex, it doesn't take a horde of scientists to prove to me (with peer reviewed papers) that it didn't make itself that way with no outside direction and intelligence.

I don't know many things that are the product of random processes that “appear to be designed” They may appear to be DESTROYED, but certainly not designed.Random does not design, does not fit, does not hold.Random only make porridge.Univers and life can't be set randomly.

yet that is what the evidence tells us, many people say they see design in nature, but there are no evidence what so ever that even indicates that nature could be designed (unless we are talking about a skilled gardener in a park or what not)

Why wouldn't you? Evolution and the big bang are theories supported by nearly as many facts as the theory of gravity.

Think about it this way, the universe is 1x10^1000000000000000000000000 times bigger than the earth. It's statistically impossible for the correct series of chemical reactions needed to create us and this planet not to happen.

that is actually not truem there are more evidence suporting the scientific theory of evolution than all the other theories combined (because so many people have tried to debunk it, but what they do instead is keep adding more evidence un to the pile)

our whole universe was in a hot dense state when nearly 14 million years ago expansion started...

14.3 billion, not million...

I don't believe in it because its wrong. A concentrated mass that existed out of nowhere, then explodes creating the universe and expands until now.

First of all, objects cannot come out nothing because everything has its beginning. Therefore the idea of the explosion that had occurred some billion years out of nothing becomes wrong. Nothing can come out of nothing. So for the big bang to explode, it must have a creator however, scientist disprove the existence of god. So that means has never had a beginning which means it didn't have its space nor time which is necessary for physics theories.

That cannot be the big bang because it comes out of nothing and nothing comes out of nothing. So that means that something that had everything to begin with was no other than God. Some people will ask questions like how existed and some stuff.

how did God come in to existences then? before there was anything? ohh and did you know there are atom's that pop in and out of existances all the time?

 

[Transcendence]

Sure. At first glance.
Then you realize that a magical particle burst forth from nothing and created an entire universe.

I'm agnostic, so I'm not defending Christianity. Just sayin'.

Also, in response to the OP, the BBT wasn't actually an explosion.

There is actual proof of particles spontaneously appearing and disappearing on random occurrence. Far more plausible than a "God" that contradicts the omnipotent paradox.

OT: Yes I do. And you being in med school, you should be able to make connections seeing as going through High School Biology, you learned about Evolution. The complexities of Humans are a by-product of Natural Selection. Our bodies evolved over time to suit what was advantageous in our environment. We evolved IN the universe, and it wasn't the universes prerogative to "create" us. Not to mention, the Higgs Boson particle, commonly referred to as the "God" particle that gives everything in the universe its mass, has been found and proven to do its given function.

 

[Bronze]

how did God come in to existences then? before there was anything? ohh and did you know there are atom's that pop in and out of existances all the time?

God has always existed. The universe has infinite amount of energy resides in it. It cannot exist on its own, therefore someone must have created and that someone must have infinite amount of energy. God.

Right because that atom is going to pop out of nothing? No.

 

[Skylar Knight]

God has always existed. The universe has infinite amount of energy resides in it. It cannot exist on its own, therefore someone must have created and that someone must have infinite amount of energy. God.

Right because that atom is going to pop out of nothing? No.

I still don't understand how some people can say that God has always existed, yet they refuse to believe that it's the same with the universe.