DNA and Nagato

[VongolaX]

Are you one of those people who believes Madara has EMS and gave it to Nagato to activate the rinnegan?

Well I'll tell you this, it is complete bullsh*t theory.

Madara awaken the rinnegan at an old age (as you see in the picture) than transplanted the rinnegan in Nagato.

Madara's old eyes were dispose of a long time ago, before he even fought Hashirama.

The sage and zetsu confirmed that it was Madara who awaken the rinnegan like 2 times already.

There is no correlation between uzamaki, rinnegan, and Nagato unless you see borrowed or transplant.

That's final

 

[Rohan]

Weren't his original eyes implanted in Nagato though? Obito said that's what happened when he was talking to Konan. From that I gathered that Madara kept Izuna's eyes in his sockets.

Facepalm, Madara was not alive at that point, Dattebayo!

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

There are two different sets of eyes :-

Madara's MS - Madara's original set of eyes .

Izuna's MS- Izuna's original set of eyes which were used by Madara to form EMS. Since the EMS had Indra and Ashura Chakra, This caused it to become Rinnegan and passed was on to Obito and Nagato and they also had Rinnegan.

What happened to Madara's original eyes is still unknown, Dattebayo!

What the **** are you talking about? Izuna's eyes didn't have Ashura's chakra, and that's not why they became Rinnegan.

 

[Rohan]

What the **** are you talking about? Izuna's eyes didn't have Ashura's chakra, and that's not why they became Rinnegan.

Izuna's Eyes< Taken by Madara< Became Madara's eyes< Madara took Hashirama's Dna< Izuna's Eyes(Now Madara's) obtained both Indra and Ashura Chakra< Rinnegan.

I can't make it any simpler than this, Dattebayo!

 

[AllHailKurama]

I'll post this one more time. Oh and his eyes and his brother's eyes merge into one, idk what you're talking about.

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What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

There's no ''original'' eyes to begin with, Mads EMS transformed into rinnegan when he was an elder and transplanted them to Nagato, by the time Obito met Madara, he only had one 3tomoe sharingan which he stated was stolen. His ''original'' eyes were in Nagato.

Ok. Lets try this again. To get EMS, you transplant your brothers eyes into your own body. There is no merging of both sets of eyes. Sasuke has Itachi's eyes in his skull now. With that said, Madara transplanted Izuna's eyes into his body. He gave the eyes that he was born with to Nagato. After he lost at VOTE, he awakened the Rinnegan in the eyes in his head (aka Izuna's eyes, not the eyes he was born with). Obito said that Madara transplanted his original eyes to Nagato, to confirm that the combination of Uchiha and Senju DNA creates a Rinnegan. We now know that this is not the case, from this past chapter.

My question is how did Nagato get the Rinnegan when he was given Madara's ORIGINAL EYES (not Izuna's, so they didn't have the Rinnegan yet).

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Izuna's Eyes< Taken by Madara< Became Madara's eyes< Madara took Hashirama's Dna< Izuna's Eyes(Now Madara's) obtained both Indra and Ashura Chakra< Rinnegan.

I can't make it any simpler than this, Dattebayo!

You didn't say that he had Hashirama's chakra. You said Izuna's eyes had Ashura's chakra.

You need to make that clear because the ****tard OP can't seem to grasp simple concepts.

 

[Rohan]

Ok. Lets try this again. To get EMS, you transplant your brothers eyes into your own body. There is no merging of both sets of eyes. Sasuke has Itachi's eyes in his skull now. With that said, Madara transplanted Izuna's eyes into his body. He gave the eyes that he was born with to Nagato. After he lost at VOTE, he awakened the Rinnegan in the eyes in his head (aka Izuna's eyes, not the eyes he was born with). Obito said that Madara transplanted his original eyes to Nagato, to confirm that the combination of Uchiha and Senju DNA creates a Rinnegan. We now know that this is not the case, from this past chapter.

My question is how did Nagato get the Rinnegan when he was given Madara's ORIGINAL EYES (not Izuna's, so they didn't have the Rinnegan yet).

I thought that Madara gave his Rinnegan eyes to Nagato only after he had awakened it because he was dying from old age, Dattebayo!

 

[AllHailKurama]

Are you one of those people who believes Madara has EMS and gave it to Nagato to activate the rinnegan?

Well I'll tell you this, it is complete bullsh*t theory.

Madara awaken the rinnegan at an old age (as you see in the picture) than transplanted the rinnegan in Nagato.

Madara's old eyes were dispose of a long time ago, before he even fought Hashirama.

The sage and zetsu confirmed that it was Madara who awaken the rinnegan like 2 times already.

There is no correlation between uzamaki, rinnegan, and Nagato unless you see borrowed or transplant.

That's final

It's not a theory it's a question. I'm asking how Nagato got the rinnegan when he recieved Madaras original eyes which weren't transformed into the rinnegan until after they were in Nagato's body, that's all.

 

[Rohan]

You didn't say that he had Hashirama's chakra. You said Izuna's eyes had Ashura's chakra.

You need to make that clear because the ****tard OP can't seem to grasp simple concepts.

I thought that Hashirama's Chakra = Ashura's Chakra. But, I should have made it clear, Dattebayo!

 

[NaruGoku]

re-read this chapter.. it wasn't the "eyes," it was because Madara implanted Hashi's cells. that's what mixed the chakra and brought out the sage's chakra and awakened the Rinnegan.. it wasn't because izuna's eyes themselves had indra's chakra. also.. izuna wasn't the reincarnation of Indra, Madara was. SO Madara had Indra's chakra, Hashirama had Ashura's. When Madara implanted Hashi's cells into his own body, those 2 chakras mixed and that's what awakened the Rinnegan in Madara.

Also someone said Madara wasn't alive at the time Nagato got the Rinnegan.. Yes, he was.. he was the one who implanted the Rinnegan into Nagato, he did it himself when Nagato was a toddler

 

[Flakez]

It's not a theory it's a question. I'm asking how Nagato got the rinnegan when he recieved Madaras original eyes which weren't transformed into the rinnegan until after they were in Nagato's body, that's all.

The eyes were already transformed into rinnegan when Madara gave them to Nagato. Idk what's so hard to grasp.

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

It's not a theory it's a question. I'm asking how Nagato got the rinnegan when he recieved Madaras original eyes which weren't transformed into the rinnegan until after they were in Nagato's body, that's all.

He didn't implant his eyes that didn't have EMS. He implanted the Rinnegan eyes.

 

[NaruGoku]

It's not a theory it's a question. I'm asking how Nagato got the rinnegan when he recieved Madaras original eyes which weren't transformed into the rinnegan until after they were in Nagato's body, that's all.

he did not give nagato his "original" eyes. he gave him the eyes that he took from Izuna.. he awakened the Rinnegan with those eyes and he transplanted them into Nagato. besides the fact this has been stated, there are other circumstances that prove it. such as this: if Madara had the Rinnegan with his eyes--his new eyes that he got from Izuna--and gave Nagato his "original" eyes, then when Obito met Madara, BOTH Madara and Nagato would have had the Rinnegan at the same time. but there was only ONE pair of eyes with the Rinnegan, and that pair is the pair Madara had. also, Madara's "original" eyes were blind, it was too late to transplant them anyways.

 

[AllHailKurama]

I thought that Madara gave his Rinnegan eyes to Nagato only after he had awakened it because he was dying from old age, Dattebayo!

Madara gave his original eyes to Nagato, not Izuna's. His original eyes didn't have the Rinnegan until Nagato awakened it. If you notice in the war arc, Madara and obito are fighting over Madaras original eyes, Madara got rid of Izuna's eyes by doing the Rinne Tensei, which is why he went blind for a bit there. Then white Zetsu brought him his original eye that Obito had hidden, and he tried to forcibly take his other eye back from Obito. There have been 2 sets of Rinnegan during the war arc, the rinnegan that were in Izuna's eyes (which Madara had during his reanimation and his attack on the bijuu/Sasuke/Naruto) and his original eyes (the ones he implanted in Nagato, which Obito has in one eye and Madara has in the other)

 

[Rohan]

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Madara's eyes awakened the Rinnegan due to Indra and Ashura's chakra. Even if those eyes went to Nagato, the chakra of both were still present in the eyes. Thus, both Nagato and Obito have the Rinnegan because both Indra and Ashura's chakra are still present in the eyes.

Hope this helps, Dattebayo!

There are two different sets of eyes :-

Madara's MS - Madara's original set of eyes .

Izuna's MS- Izuna's original set of eyes which were used by Madara to form EMS. Since the EMS had Indra and Ashura Chakra, This caused it to become Rinnegan and passed was on to Obito and Nagato and they also had Rinnegan.

What happened to Madara's original eyes is still unknown, Dattebayo!

Izuna's Eyes< Taken by Madara< Became Madara's eyes< Madara took Hashirama's Dna< Izuna's Eyes(Now Madara's) obtained both Indra and Ashura Chakra< Rinnegan.

I can't make it any simpler than this, Dattebayo!

I thought that Hashirama's Chakra = Ashura's Chakra. But, I should have made it clear, Dattebayo!

The eyes were already transformed into rinnegan when Madara gave them to Nagato. Idk what's so hard to grasp.

He didn't implant his eyes that didn't have EMS. He implanted the Rinnegan eyes.

I hope these quotes help you solve your confusion, Dattebayo! =D

 

[Flakez]

Madara gave his original eyes to Nagato, not Izuna's. His original eyes didn't have the Rinnegan until Nagato awakened it. If you notice in the war arc, Madara and obito are fighting over Madaras original eyes, Madara got rid of Izuna's eyes by doing the Rinne Tensei, which is why he went blind for a bit there. Then white Zetsu brought him his original eye that Obito had hidden, and he tried to forcibly take his other eye back from Obito. There have been 2 sets of Rinnegan during the war arc, the rinnegan that were in Izuna's eyes (which Madara had during his reanimation and his attack on the bijuu/Sasuke/Naruto) and his original eyes (the ones he implanted in Nagato, which Obito has in one eye and Madara has in the other)

OMG. I don't even.... You can't seem to grasp a simple concept after 2 pages of explaining..

 

[Rohan]

Madara gave his original eyes to Nagato, not Izuna's. His original eyes didn't have the Rinnegan until Nagato awakened it. If you notice in the war arc, Madara and obito are fighting over Madaras original eyes, Madara got rid of Izuna's eyes by doing the Rinne Tensei, which is why he went blind for a bit there. Then white Zetsu brought him his original eye that Obito had hidden, and he tried to forcibly take his other eye back from Obito. There have been 2 sets of Rinnegan during the war arc, the rinnegan that were in Izuna's eyes (which Madara had during his reanimation and his attack on the bijuu/Sasuke/Naruto) and his original eyes (the ones he implanted in Nagato, which Obito has in one eye and Madara has in the other)

Edo Madara's eyes were fake and they were Izuna's eyes. When he was revived, those eyes already existed and thus Edo Madara's fake Rinnegan Shattered, Dattebayo!

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

There's no winning with this guy he is just hellbent on being stupid.

 

[AllHailKurama]

He didn't implant his eyes that didn't have EMS. He implanted the Rinnegan eyes.

Then what's up with the original non-EMS eyes? How did they end up with the Rinnegan? I figured that they were the ones implanted in Nagato and that the Rinnegan awakened after the incident with Yahiko almost getting killed (like Jiraiya stated). Obito stated that the implantation was an expirinent to see that if you combine Uchiha DNA and Senju DNA, the sharingan would mutate into the Rinnegan.

I was under the impression that Madara still had the EMS/Rinnegan eyes and that the original/MS eyes were the ones transplanted to Nagato, for the sake of the expiriment, like Obito stated.

 

[Rohan]

Then what's up with the original non-EMS eyes? How did they end up with the Rinnegan? I figured that they were the ones implanted in Nagato and that the Rinnegan awakened after the incident with Yahiko almost getting killed (like Jiraiya stated). Obito stated that the implantation was an expirinent to see that if you combine Uchiha DNA and Senju DNA, the sharingan would mutate into the Rinnegan.

I was under the impression that Madara still had the EMS/Rinnegan eyes and that Madara's original/MS eyes were the ones transplanted to Nagato, for the sake of the expiriment, like Obito stated.

Underlined, Those eyes have been lost and not been explained by the plot. Either they were destroyed when Obito used Izanagi with his left eye (Assumption), or they will have a bearing on the plot later. As of now, it's significance is unknown, Dattebayo!