DMS Kakashi vs Rinnegan Sasuke

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Kaguya could intercept Sasuke's attacks. Kaguya couldn't intercept Kakashi's.
DMS Kakashi's chidori speed >>>> Sasuke's.

Kakashi could evade Kaguya's Ash Bone after she'd gotten stronger from stabilization. Sasuke required feints to avoid them.
Kakashi's evasion >>>>>>> Sasuke's.

Kaguya has enough speed to evade Sasuke's S/T Chidori & Kakashi has enough speed to keep up with her, so he must have enough speed up with Sasuke as well.

Kakashi wins unless Sasuke can use Ameno all day long to avoid fatal blows.
Please don’t compare teen Sasuke to Adult Sasuke. Honestly Rinnegan Genjutsu and CT would take Kakashi out.
 

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With out stamina restriction I honestly can’t decide who wins.

Leaning towards sasuke though because kamui has a few weaknesses:

The user can only dematerialise for 5 minutes at a time

The user cannot dematerialise when teleporting an enemy or teleporting themselves

When the user "dematerialises" the part of the body which is attacked fades into the
Kamui dimension and is vulnerable there

If Kakashi were to use Kamui, he would have to remain materialised. This would give Sasuke a chance to use Amenotejikara to teleport in an instant next to Kakashi and pierce him with a Rikudo Raikiri.


Edit: Also this should work against a pair of mangekou sharingan right?

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the bold is false in terms of dms. Obito is already seen using kamui while using kamui. and kamui raikiri is literally phasing through your opponent while teleporting whatever raikiri hits to kamuiland.


OT: kakashi, if "stamina" isn't a factor. It really isnt but i know how ppl are.
 

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Sasuke wins in my opinion. I don’t really see too many ways Kakashi could pull off a win. Kamui Shurikens are very useful but they can be overrated abit. Just my thoughts.
 
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Kakashi's powers are ridiculously haxxed. Come on people.

He doesn't even need to waste chakra on Susano. He can phase trough any attack sasuke uses. Indra's arrow, Ameno/chidori, PS Slash... Anything, would just make Kakashi go ghost mode.

Meanwhile, Sasuke has to be careful of Kakashi's ridiculously fast Kamui, Kamui raikiri and any variant. Kakashi can literally phase trough Sasuke's susanoo and get to him.

I'm sure that on Kishimoto's head, Sasuke was probably stronger. But anallyzing their abilities, there's no way Sasuke wins. Except Genjutsu, but Kakashi's MS+Rikudo chakra can probably get out of it.
 

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Chakra = Sasuke. Sasuke have larger and stronger chakra
Arsenal = Sasuke. Rinnegan genjutsu, CT. Kakashi has to answer for.

Ameno =kamui

Sasuke wins
 

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Kakashi's powers are ridiculously haxxed. Come on people.

He doesn't even need to waste chakra on Susano. He can phase trough any attack sasuke uses. Indra's arrow, Ameno/chidori, PS Slash... Anything, would just make Kakashi go ghost mode.

Meanwhile, Sasuke has to be careful of Kakashi's ridiculously fast Kamui, Kamui raikiri and any variant. Kakashi can literally phase trough Sasuke's susanoo and get to him.

I'm sure that on Kishimoto's head, Sasuke was probably stronger.
But anallyzing their abilities, there's no way Sasuke wins. Except Genjutsu, but Kakashi's MS+Rikudo chakra can probably get out of it.
the bold isn't true .kakashi was clearly portrayed superior by his feats against the strongest version of kaguya and the fact that naruto stated that his susano is more awesome than sasuke's .

yeah kakashi is the most haxxed character .you can can have planets busting attacks and still cant harm kakashi .you can have planets worth of durability and still gets damaged by any of kakashi's kamui based attacks (kamui snipe,kamui raikeri(used through susano or kakashi) ,kamui shrukien ...etc) if they landed.
his raw power isn't on par with the likes of Juubij jins or even Naruto , in terms of AOE ,but his focused firepower is unmatched .it is just the highest you can get ,ripping through space itself .

i dont think genjutsu is an issue .it was never stated that this genjutsu is Rinnegan genjutsu .it is like saying Sasuke has Rinnegan amatrasu .it is the same MS techs but used through his eye that evolved into Rinnegan .his genjutsu may got stronger by the effect of Rinnegan's chakra but kakashi's eyes are also enhanced by Rikudo chakra as stated .
 
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I gotta go with kakashi here, there’s a reason we don’t see a DMS kamui in combat until that silly scenario. Not only that, in the minute or so he had his DMS, he did way more than naruto and sasuke managed to do together in that fight. Kakashi is a dude who, given his series feats with what he’s had, would be an absolute monster in a vs scenario against damn near anyone with dms
 
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Kakashi can’t phase through CT when he’s the core.
CT wont even effect kakashi... kamui phasing works by transporting parts of the body to a pocket dimension.... sasuke initiates CT and kakashi goes to the kamui dimension and comes right back out behind sasuke & they look at the CT mass together before kakashi finishes him
 

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CT wont even effect kakashi... kamui phasing works by transporting parts of the body to a pocket dimension.... sasuke initiates CT and kakashi goes to the kamui dimension and comes right back out behind sasuke & they look at the CT mass together before kakashi finishes him
If Kakashi is the core then each and every time he comes back the CT form around him.. and Ameno would never allow Kakashi to get a sneak attack.
 

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both with killing intent, both can see charka meaning they can tell when they are going to cast a tech, and of course pre cog , dms kakashi wins..

kakashi kamui negs all attacks. ps with 1-3 min time limit is more than enough for the og assassin but i dont see kakashi using ps unless he intents to teleport sasuke away with kamui shurkins.. armored size susanoo with a kamui sword would enough. kakashis style is up front and personal and kamui is the perfect tech for him to close that gap.. kakashi shadow clone diversion is lvls above narutos and can easily neg gen cast or fatality. sasuke negs lighting clones after effect but still

sasuke has way more charaka and being an uchiha doesnt get a heavy charka drain. his Amenotejikara will most likely be negg if kakashi kamui his body if sasuke plans to swap with kakashi or if kakashi can correctly predict/ cast on a/the object if sasuke tries to swap with surrounding things. sasukes black flames are negg no diff, indra arrow negg , ....everthing negg

kamui is to fuckn powerful.

unless sasukes rinnigan can reverse kamui warp since sasuke does have the portal ability but i dont see that happening prolly can only slow down kamui speed.
 
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