discussion of madara and kisame

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people how could kisame have called tobi when he removed his mask former mizukage ????how could have madara been a mizukage without the leaf knowing???is tobi really even madara????:confused:
 

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Kirigakure was the only of the 5 great nations to not get involved in any of the previous Great wars and Kiri was said that they didn't include themselves in the conflicts of the main land and usually kept the themselves. Also the akatsuki was rumored to be formed by Kirigakure and Madara being the ring leader could explain.
 

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people how could kisame have called tobi when he removed his mask former mizukage ????how could have madara been a mizukage without the leaf knowing???is tobi really even madara????:confused:
Well, Madara was said to be dead, so no one would suspect him of being alive and especially being a Kage. He may had changed name but I guess his face was not hidded or he could have his face hidden but shown it to the first Akatsuki members (since I read in this thread that it is said that Akatsuki could have been founded in Kirigakure), or to Kisame, because he was of that village.
 

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Hmm , i think some1 said to me that he Controlled the mizukage with his sharingan doing stuff he wanted
It is confirmed that Yagura was indeed controlled by an unknown genjutsu as Ao (?) saw with his Byakugan. But we don't know if it was Madara. He could be nevertheless.
 

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Well , i think Madara didnt showed himself as the Mizukage , i think he was controlling Mizukage from the shadows , and that some ppl knew that.I think the two of them never met face to face and that Kisame didnt knew how madara look like. And when he took off his mask kisame knew that its Madara , since he was aware of his existence and it couldnt be any1 else with Sharingan since only Uchihas left are madara and sasuke.
 

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Well , i think Madara didnt showed himself as the Mizukage , i think he was controlling Mizukage from the shadows , and that some ppl knew that.I think the two of them never met face to face and that Kisame didnt knew how madara look like. And when he took off his mask kisame knew that its Madara , since he was aware of his existence and it couldnt be any1 else with Sharingan since only Uchihas left are madara and sasuke.
Then why did Kisame adress Madara as Mizukage-sama if they had never met before?
 

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people how could kisame have called tobi when he removed his mask former mizukage ????how could have madara been a mizukage without the leaf knowing???is tobi really even madara????:confused:
Madara was the "Unkown Mizukage" Of Kirigakure....We dont know if he was the 1st or 2nd or 3rd ,but we know he was Mizukage...We also dont know why he quited from being Mizukage and stuff...Personally I Think That he was the 3rd Mizukage before te Jinchuriki Yagura(4th Mizukage) and THE Currrent one..
 

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Well , i think Madara didnt showed himself as the Mizukage , i think he was controlling Mizukage from the shadows , and that some ppl knew that.I think the two of them never met face to face and that Kisame didnt knew how madara look like. And when he took off his mask kisame knew that its Madara , since he was aware of his existence and it couldnt be any1 else with Sharingan since only Uchihas left are madara and sasuke.

at that time i think all the uchihas of leaf were alive
 
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