[DISCUSSION] Legend of Korra - Episode 9: Out of the Past

[Vuk]

Sometimes, as I read some of the insane theories here, I wish I could internet-bend and take away the power from some of you guys ...
Aang's zombie body used by Amon ??
Spirit of the moon as a bloodbender ??
COME ON people how old ARE you ???
I don't even know where to start, so I decided not to say a thing, except that I agree with Crème Brûlée regarding Yukone not bending at the time of full moon, Amon knowing where Korra is, Amon energybending and actually pretty much everything he said ))
Korra is not an anime, there's no deus-ex machina solutions in every episode like in most of the things we watch, there will probably be a quite logical explanation that will make all of us angry and wanting for more details on Zuko's mom ))
But seriously Avatar v.2 ( Whenever you say stuff like that, Koh steals another face..

 

[Jokey]

i still think that Amon is:

1) Aang's body (BODY, not soul or mind xd)

2) Father of Mako and Bolin

3) Korra's secret twin (i know what you all might say xd)

4) Any of Aang's children



personally, i wanna know who Amon is more than i want to know who Tobi is xd

1) Lmao.

2) Nah...

3) ROFLMAO.

4) Hmmm.

@Bolded part; I must agree with you xd

 

[Korra.]

I say Tobi needs to learn a thing from Amon on being a villain xd

 

[Edge]

Because there is nothing special about it. Amon tracked Tarrlok to his hideout and he knew he had the Avatar and a metal cage, thus if he already knew all that, that he knew she was in a metal cage is normal. Also pretty much the only place where you could keep her locked away is a metal cage, so it's a logical assumption that she would be in one. He also stood at the door opening to the basement from where he could see the cage. So if he didn't knew it already, he would have made the connection there on that moment.

So there's really nothing special about that he knew Korra was in a metal cage.

How did he know there was a metal box? Tracking him to the hideout doesn't equate that, she could be in a metal cage or god knows how many other ways you can bind and trap someone.

You don't know if he could see the cage or not, it was downstairs, Tarrlok was standing in the doorway...

Unless he peered downstairs off-camera then it doesn't add up, he picks up Tarrlok right after he energybends him anyway.

 

[Vuk]

How did he know there was a metal box? Tracking him to the hideout doesn't equate that, she could be in a metal cage or god knows how many other ways you can bind and trap someone.

You don't know if he could see the cage or not, it was downstairs, Tarrlok was standing in the doorway...

Unless he peered downstairs off-camera then it doesn't add up, he picks up Tarrlok right after he energybends him anyway.

Maybe the scriptwriters just didn't think it through ?? What could possibly be a secret meaning to Amon knowing about a metal box ??
Not to mention how it is plausible Amon and his henchman probably didn't just waltz in, but have probably watched the hideout for some time before they developed the strategy and attacked...

 

[Water Ninja]

It's nostalgic to see nearly all the previous casts back with exception of Katara Sokka did sound a bit too young for his age

I think Katara was the lawyer who was against Yakone. She sounded kinda like Katara and looked like her as well. But I agree it was nice to see everyone especially Badass Toph

 

[Caliburn]

blood bending is common knowledge now because of aang and the groups adventures. They stated that aang told the stroies to every one jinora "read" about them so its in writing even the story of Zukor mom is known to almost every one ( except us :|) don't see why he would skip over the blood bending part escapillay for the fire nation people that it got used on and some fire nation people knew about it since it was used on them. hama is part of their stroy in the fire nation so they told people about it ( probably unknowing that someone would be able to use it without being taught) and if not maybe korra will ask about blood bending when she wakes up.

also creme cailburn buggiesbunny whatever if there was someone to balence out the avatara who would balence out this avatar 2.0? it would continue forever because there'd need to be an avatar 3.0 for 2.0 and a 4.0 for 3.0 you get my point no?

also there IS a new episode next week check your guides or check the wiki

and at bold its like she is pissed at him for that and tahts the whole reason why this is happening right now xd

You're not understanding it correctly. They balance each other out, the second one doesn't just balance the first one out. In the case the 2nd one would do something, the first Avatar would have the power to stop him too. That's what it means to have balance, what you're talking about is not balance. Water can put out fire, but fire can evaporate water too.

Unless you're not going to say then what if both of them failed, but then you're not within the Avatar context anymore, then you might as well start questioning why wood is for instance not an element and such kind of stuff.

How did he know there was a metal box? Tracking him to the hideout doesn't equate that, she could be in a metal cage or god knows how many other ways you can bind and trap someone.

You don't know if he could see the cage or not, it was downstairs, Tarrlok was standing in the doorway...

Unless he peered downstairs off-camera then it doesn't add up, he picks up Tarrlok right after he energybends him anyway.

The potentially strongest bender in the world of which you know she has at least mastered 3 elements is not someone you can just lock away in a normal cell or place. On top of that based on what we have seen in Republic City metal cells are quite common as, unless you're a metal bender, you can lock away any kind of bender in it. And there is really no difference between a metal box or cage, at least not one that's important. Also he knew Tarrlok had Korra. So if you count all of that together with the fact that Amon stood in the doorway, as he went behind Tarrlok, that if he didn't know it yet before he would have realized it on that moment that Korra was in a metal cage. If you see a large metal cage (and if you watch the episode you'll see it's perfectly possible to see the cage from the doorway, especially when there's a light right above the cage) in the middle of a room of which you know that there's a 3-element bender, well then the connection is easily made. Also Korra and Tarrlok were speaking with each other, so it's almost certain Amon heard them speaking as it has been clearly shown that Korra could hear them speaking.

Seriously you're nitpicking on something extremely minor with no importance whatsoever to the story insinuating it might be some important clue for the plot. This can't even be considered a flaw of the makers as it's perfectly possible that Amon knew of Korra being in a metal cage. Also when he took Tarrlok's bending away, the screen changed to his men. In the next screen he was seeing with Tarrlok on his shoulder, so he could have easily looked down the stairs. We can't know whether he did that or not, however it's completely possible he did and that makes your entire statement void. If it's completely possible that he knows she's in a metal box, then the statement that it might be some kind of important clue looses its entire foundation as it's based on the reasoning that it's illogical for him to know that.

 

[Edge]

The potentially strongest bender in the world of which you know she has at least mastered 3 elements is not someone you can just lock away in a normal cell or place. On top of that based on what we have seen in Republic City metal cells are quite common as, unless you're a metal bender, you can lock away any kind of bender in it. And there is really no difference between a metal box or cage, at least not one that's important. Also he knew Tarrlok had Korra. So if you count all of that together with the fact that Amon stood in the doorway, as he went behind Tarrlok, that if he didn't know it yet before he would have realized it on that moment that Korra was in a metal cage. If you see a large metal cage (and if you watch the episode you'll see it's perfectly possible to see the cage from the doorway, especially when there's a light right above the cage) in the middle of a room of which you know that there's a 3-element bender, well then the connection is easily made. Also Korra and Tarrlok were speaking with each other, so it's almost certain Amon heard them speaking as it has been clearly shown that Korra could hear them speaking.

Seriously you're nitpicking on something extremely minor with no importance whatsoever to the story insinuating it might be some important clue for the plot. This can't even be considered a flaw of the makers as it's perfectly possible that Amon knew of Korra being in a metal cage. Also when he took Tarrlok's bending away, the screen changed to his men. In the next screen he was seeing with Tarrlok on his shoulder, so he could have easily looked down the stairs. We can't know whether he did that or not, however it's completely possible he did and that makes your entire statement void. If it's completely possible that he knows she's in a metal box, then the statement that it might be some kind of important clue looses its entire foundation as it's based on the reasoning that it's illogical for him to know that.

You need to relax...and do you think I would have mentioned this at all if the box was visible from the upstairs doorway where Amon never looked down on camera in the first place?

Nothing is certain, and I'm considering ALL possibilities rather than brushing them off in exaggerated dismissals.

I never said it was a flaw, Amon was never SEEN to be looking downstairs at all. Maybe he did off screen, maybe he didn't. The point is, we aren't SHOWN Amon making any sort of connection that results in him knowing .

I'm not going to argue something so minor any further with you, it was just an observation. Just because you make the connection after already having the bias of seeing how Korra was contained doesn't mean everyone does. If it develops into something, then it does. If not, then it doesn't. End of story.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

and anyone find it ironic taht out of all the team avatar memebrs only sokka diidn't have a kid even after all the women he had in alta? while toph who we diidn't even see like anyone in the seris had a child?

 

[-The Agent-]

Amon isn't effected by bloodbending because there is only swag running through his veins.

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Lol but on a serious note, similar to Zhao in season 1, either Amon took a trip to the spirit world, and discovered the secrets to bending and countering it, or he is a bender himself. No way he can resist air bending, Earth, fire and water bending without some knowledge.

 

[Shinta]

and anyone find it ironic taht out of all the team avatar memebrs only sokka diidn't have a kid even after all the women he had in alta? while toph who we diidn't even see like anyone in the seris had a child?

Near the end of the original series didn't we see that Toph liked Sokka in some way? I haven't seen it in a while so I may be wrong, but I think they did end up having feelings for each other, just off-screen. Again, I may be wrong anyone else know what I'm talking about?

Also since I just saw this new Smile I think the next one to post can have an ice cream :ice:

 

[Kazamori]

Does it say somewhere that Sokka had no kids?
O_O

 

[Flame Alchemist]

Near the end of the original series didn't we see that Toph liked Sokka in some way? I haven't seen it in a while so I may be wrong, but I think they did end up having feelings for each other, just off-screen. Again, I may be wrong anyone else know what I'm talking about?

Also since I just saw this new Smile I think the next one to post can have an ice cream :ice:

toph didn't have feelings for any member of the group. but there were times where it seemed like that.

serpents pass: she fell to the sea, there was an unagi-alike creture on a rampage. suki jumped in and saved her. toph thought it was sokka and thanked "sokka" by kissing "him". only to realize it was suki and then replying with "you can go ahead and let me drown now."

sokka's master: when sokka was having swords training he wasn't with the group for a day. when he came back aang, katara, toph all rushed to him and asked him to say "something funny." when sokka replied "funny how?" they all laughed their asses off. sokka asked toph "what's their problem" and toph while hiding his blushed face replied with "I don't know they missed you or something. I didn't care. (she did)"

but at the finale when aang was lost and they decided to search for him toph rushed to zuko, grabbed his arm and said "I'm going with zuko. (surprised looks on everyone) what? everyone got their turn on going a feel-trip with zuko. now it's my turn."

in other words. that's her rare behavior. sometimes she gets closer to someone which can pretty much surprise everyone.

on the matter of sokka's children;
sokka not having any children is not certain. if he ended up with suki their child wouldn't be a bender so it would be natural that we didn't get to see him/her yet. 1st season may have ending soon but there are still a lot of things that we'll get to see. the only thing we got to see from the past was the trial and aang's third son tenzin. for all we know aang and katara had two more children, one of them being a waterbender the other is a non-bender.

edit:
by the way I was re-watching the trial and saw that there are actually five counsilman. water-earth-fire-air plus sokka. so was sokka something like head counsilman? any ideas?

 

[Shinta]

edit:
by the way I was re-watching the trial and saw that there are actually five counsilman. water-earth-fire-air plus sokka. so was sokka something like head counsilman? any ideas?

Thanks for your answer, now on to your edit;

Based on where he was sitting I would say he was head of the counsel, he probably is there because he may have been the founding member of the counsel or Aang felt that he would be best suited there.

 

[Flame Alchemist]

Thanks for your answer, now on to your edit;

Based on where he was sitting I would say he was head of the counsel, he probably is there because he may have been the founding member of the counsel or Aang felt that he would be best suited there.

hmm so,
zuko --> fire lord
aang --> well nuff said
sokka --> head counsilman
toph --> chief of police.

now I wonder what happened to katara and suki

 

[Boa Hancock]

and anyone find it ironic taht out of all the team avatar memebrs only sokka diidn't have a kid even after all the women he had in alta? while toph who we diidn't even see like anyone in the seris had a child?

Remember Toph's husband (if Lin wasn't born out of wedlock) hasn't been mentioned yet. It could very well be Sokka.

See The Promise 2.

 

[Yugure]

hmm so,
zuko --> fire lord
aang --> well nuff said
sokka --> head counsilman
toph --> chief of police.

now I wonder what happened to katara and suki

Katara = Aang's wife^_^

 

[Flame Alchemist]

Katara = Aang's wife^_^

so that's as far as she could go? xd

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

I'm jsut really loving this show. Entertaining oh yeah.

Amon is so badass. And I agree that he beats me in the Tobi mystery

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lol he makes me laugh

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and Amon admits to actually be someone unlike our friend Tobi ~_~




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I have one question:

How is there still AirBison? Wasn't Appa the last one? are Flying Bison Asexual?

 

[Flame Alchemist]

I'm jsut really loving this show. Entertaining oh yeah.

Amon is so badass. And I agree that he beats me in the Tobi mystery

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lol he makes me laugh

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and Amon admits to actually be someone unlike our friend Tobi ~_~




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I have one question:

How is there still AirBison? Wasn't Appa the last one? are Flying Bison Asexual?

it appears aang and the gang found a herd of flying bisons.
they also found a new species of winged lemurs