[DISCUSSION] Legend of Korra - Episode 8: When Extremes Meet

[Nave Sky]

Yes the two definitely both bring something new to the table but their distinctions are not black and white which is what I find so interesting. ATLA was a lot more varied and content-rich I find (just consider the episode with the Guru and the profound references to Hindu Religion for instance. It had a lot more literary weight than LOK does now) however it never really explored its themes to their fullest extent - besides Zuko's internal struggle - because it always had to move on to the next thing.

Aang's difficulties with earthbending lasted only an episode while Korra's airbending troubles are a central theme. Same for - like I said earlier - the theme of government oppression which is briefly dealt with in Ba Sing Sei, but now really explored in LOK especially with what's happening with Tarlok.

But while LOK takes more time with its themes, its plot is also much more fast-paced. ATLA took its narrative pacing a lot more slowly, which several tangents and progressive developments. The main antagonist is not even introduced until the final book. Yet with LOK there is a new big revelation or major event almost every episode.

Those are just a few distinctions I see that are worth mentioning. I love how they decided to take such a different direction with Korra because comparing and contrasting the two different worldviews that the two series have is really rewarding I find XD

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

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anyway the more this goes out the more it seems like ww2 doesn't it?

 

[Korra.]

One epic fight O_O I think Tarrlock is related to that one dude Aang stop a while back they kept talking about but they manage to keep it a secret so no one will know and they both could be possibly be related to Hamma (Spelling) which could explain the Bloodbending since Katara was ashamed to use it/.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

One epic fight O_O I think Tarrlock is related to that one dude Aang stop a while back they kept talking about but they manage to keep it a secret so no one will know and they both could be possibly be related to Hamma (Spelling) which could explain the Bloodbending since Katara was ashamed to use it/.

she wasn't ashmed to sue it on the southern rider guy. but that might be because she was pissed >.>

 

[Vuk]

Well of course the new series is a little darker than ATLA, it is rather obvious to all who are, in some way, involved in this type of art (professionally or as enthusiasts)...

First- the animation, or, more precisely, the way it is colored (rather than drawn). There is a study of using different predominant colors and lighting in different genres of movies and shows, Idk like green is mostly used for horrors etc.. And using warmer colours in romantic movies or in this case the first series. ATLA had that warm tone while LOK has warmer colours present but with a more clear and sharp look... The characters are better drawn too, with an attempt to show a little diversity among different ages and, also, different nations... This is my thought on the way LOK series looks...

As far as the themes of the both shows, it is still obvious how LOK is more mature... It is not the theme itself that is less childish, because we can see many gags, puns and childish scenes in LOK, and in ATLA we witnessed some very mature themes and problems, it is the way those themes are/were approached...

The first series will always be special for me, because it's the original series, and it was so easygoing most of the time, and I had the chance to connect with character in a way I think won't be able to do with LOK ( I hope I'm wrong on this one ) ).... BUT...
ATLA presented an, almost idealistic way of solving situations... For instance Katara is strongly opposed to using bloodbending, even against enemy.. She uses it only 2 time, after which she gets very emotional... Although it would be a preferable option to use it and capture soldiers in war rather than hurt them, but the skill of bloodbending is straightforwardly characterized as evil, although, as almost every other skill, it is the way it is used that makes it good or evil, not the fact that it exists...
Then the most obvious example- Aang refusing to kill firelord Ozai... While that was, in a way, a part of who Aang is- a peace loving person with a respect for life, he never, in any moment tried to reconsider his actions nor did he REALLY think about what the past Avatars told him- that in doing the act of ultimate evil he could ensure freedom for all, he could save countless lives and restore balance... luckily everything worked out thanks to the all knowledgeable lion-turtle ... a perfect ending and a noble deed.. )

 

[Vuk]

As far as Tarrlok being Amon, that claim has no basis in anything we had a chance to see until now... Tarrlok's reaction was one of pure disgust and disbelief, for being compared to Amon. I personally think it's highly unlikely he is Amon, though he certainly is somewhat of a villain ))

 

[Edge]

Firstly, we know that Korra knows what bloodbending is, does this mean that bloodbending is common knowledge despite only Hamma and Katara learning it within the past series?

Secondly, Katara has been absent in EVERY flashback we've seen, if we believe Yakone is bloodbending then perhaps Katara has something to do with it

Not saying she's a villain (which would surprise the hell out of me) but somethings off...

 

[Jack Spicer]

I loved this episode. 5/5

 

[Nave Sky]

by the way: someone NEEDS to make a GIF of Iki going all demonic-cat like XD

 

[Vuk]

Firstly, we know that Korra knows what bloodbending is, does this mean that bloodbending is common knowledge despite only Hamma and Katara learning it within the past series?

Secondly, Katara has been absent in EVERY flashback we've seen, if we believe Yakone is bloodbending then perhaps Katara has something to do with it

Not saying she's a villain (which would surprise the hell out of me) but somethings off...

I think Katara was the one to stop Yakone from bloodbending everyone back then xDD
She probably has something to do with Korra knowing... Maybe Katara taught her something about it, seeing how Korra is the Avatar, and how she needs to be prepared to defend against all forms of attacks... That would explain how the current Avatar knows...
The question is, how did Yakone (alongside with Tarrlok) learn bloodbending ?? Beacuse I doubt it's a common knowledge...
For metalbending, it's a very logical outcome- Toph taught it to others, lightning as a part of firebending was already available to the most proficient firebenders, but bloodbending was something only the most powerful waterbenders could do, only when the moon is giving them maximum strength, and only after actually realizing how to do it (which, as we know, only 2 persons succeeded ) ...
So the logical outcome could be that Yukone is in some way connected to Hama, not as her son, but maybe he had some contacts with her and thus learned bloodbending, and having a grudge against firenbenders opposed creation of the Republic city... Katara, seeing how there is someone else who possesses the knowledge of bloodbending, teaches it to Tarrlok... I mean, he IS from the southern tribe... it is plausible...
I can't wait to see Katara in action, this time as an "old master" xDD

 

[Nerei]

Wow, I didn't think it was a good idea to make a second series, but this new one is amazing. They got friggin' car chases. Whoooot!

Latest episode 5/5
The battle with Tarlok was pretty cool. For a moment there I thought Korra was going to kill him or something, but then he breaks out 'Blood bending'. This is getting so exciting

I just started watching yesterday, but when was it that they mention the name 'Yakone'?

 

[Vuk]

Wow, I didn't think it was a good idea to make a second series, but this new one is amazing. They got friggin' car chases. Whoooot!

Latest episode 5/5
The battle with Tarlok was pretty cool. For a moment there I thought Korra was going to kill him or something, but then he breaks out 'Blood bending'. This is getting so exciting

I just started watching yesterday, but when was it that they mention the name 'Yakone'?

Yakone is mentioned in ep4 I think, Tarrlok brought the name up at a council meeting...

 

[HG Swells]

Each episode gets more and more epic. I love how Tarrlok has moved into the spotlight with Amon as another major villain. I currently can't tell which one I like the best. But his ability to bloodbend was a surprise. And the fight between him and Korra was one of the best. Can't wait for their rematch or Tenzin to go on a rampage when he learns what happen. Expect Korra to go avatar state next episode.

 

[home]

great episode, i loved it. and i'm so glad that they didn't make tarlock some fodder that was easily beaten. this episode also shows that taarlock is clearly not amon. although i actually believe that he may be in some one connected to the equalists, he is building up massive resent for benders by imposing those new laws and he knows it and the only reason why he'd do that is if he wanted to turn people against the benders. also he doesnt really seem to care for benders much as he was happy to lock up korra and her freinds despite their elevated status. he also must be somehow related to that man who was shown bloodingbending against aang, toph and sokka not only do they have the same abilities (i doubt katara would ever teach him it) but they also look the same. it is also possible that he is not at all connected to amon but is just using the disturbance he is creating to acheive his own evil goals. all i know is that hes a bad guy

 

[Young Thug]

Worth the wait IMO. If you guy's don't know this guy already, look up AvatarJessal he pretty much gives good theories and predictions on what's gonna happen next. Here's one from Sawyer's vid but enhanced:


"Tarrl has been blood-bending the Councilmen/woman to agree with whatever he says/raising their hand to agree with a law he wants approved leaving Tenzin the only one who opposed." I have no clue how that would work out since they're able to talk while under it, but it's a damn good theory I've never thought of.

 

[Anduril]

Wow Blood bending.... O_O

I wonder when Korra goes to the spirit world

 

[LionDemon]

Holy. Lion.
That was ama-zing. What I think, is that Tarlock is a long-life guy, in the flashbacks, the guy who looks just like him. The guy in the flashbacks IS Tarlock. But there is an age difference. Tarlock is... immortal?

 

[Flame Alchemist]

Holy. Lion.
That was ama-zing. What I think, is that Tarlock is a long-life guy, in the flashbacks, the guy who looks just like him. The guy in the flashbacks IS Tarlock. But there is an age difference. Tarlock is... immortal?

I don't think he is tarrlok. there is a huge resemblence so he might be family member.

aang probably took away that guy's bending ability. - at the scene where he was down on the ground before aang and aang seems like a "bringer of justice" -

even if aang didn't take away that guy's bending it's impossible for someone like that guy to become a councilman after that incident

edit:
by the way I doubt that guy killed sokka and/or toph. even if he could waterbend he wouldn't be able to kill those two when aang is there

 

[NTWYNN]

Started an account here just to join this convo lol.

I also think it's a bit weird that we are seeing so many high level techniques like blood bending and the ability to take one's blending away. And they are being used without meeting previous requirements IE a full moon or a errr...giant sea...lion...turtle...thing.

Anyway, my theory is that a powerful spirit from the spirit realm is involved, trying to lead humanity into war for his own goals and he's using Tarlok and Aman together and separately to start this conflict. If I had to guess I would think it's the Face Stealer, whatever his name was. That guy is a total **** and still has a beef with the Avatar.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

I think Katara was the one to stop Yakone from bloodbending everyone back then xDD
She probably has something to do with Korra knowing... Maybe Katara taught her something about it, seeing how Korra is the Avatar, and how she needs to be prepared to defend against all forms of attacks... That would explain how the current Avatar knows...
The question is, how did Yakone (alongside with Tarrlok) learn bloodbending ?? Beacuse I doubt it's a common knowledge...
For metalbending, it's a very logical outcome- Toph taught it to others, lightning as a part of firebending was already available to the most proficient firebenders, but bloodbending was something only the most powerful waterbenders could do, only when the moon is giving them maximum strength, and only after actually realizing how to do it (which, as we know, only 2 persons succeeded ) ...
So the logical outcome could be that Yukone is in some way connected to Hama, not as her son, but maybe he had some contacts with her and thus learned bloodbending, and having a grudge against firenbenders opposed creation of the Republic city... Katara, seeing how there is someone else who possesses the knowledge of bloodbending, teaches it to Tarrlok... I mean, he IS from the southern tribe... it is plausible...
I can't wait to see Katara in action, this time as an "old master" xDD

no check his wiki he's from the northern water tribe. the fact that people know about blood bending well there were a bunch of captive fire nation people in a cell under ground from hama they might have told people of what it does. and if not taht the stroy of team avatar was told so many times that even jinora knows almost everything and hama was a part of team avatars stroy so the stroy of blood bending was revealed ( proabaly unknowing to ever told it that some one would try to use it)

Wow Blood bending.... O_O

I wonder when Korra goes to the spirit world

when she dies U_U xd