-Haku Yuki-
Active member
Awards
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
in such times only sokka can cheer us up xd
You must be registered for see images
Last edited:
[DISCUSSION] Legend of Korra - Episode 10: Turning the Tides
- Thread starter Caliburn
- Start date
in such times only sokka can cheer us up xd
ANBU Kakashi23
Active member
can we get a moment of silence for the most ba person in the show to date?
lin beifong your epicness will be cherished by fans for ever and ever in the catacombs of animation history -pours out some liquor-
and finally someone from the blood line of zuko is going to show up and show mako what real fire bending is
wease:, the season finale will be glorious
lin beifong your epicness will be cherished by fans for ever and ever in the catacombs of animation history -pours out some liquor-
and finally someone from the blood line of zuko is going to show up and show mako what real fire bending is
wease:, the season finale will be glorious
Young Thug
Banned
Close relative/royal family? That proves my "Zuko's-Daughter-Married-Bumi-Thus-Making-Team-Avatard-Related-" theory was correct!
Phenomenal, simply phenomenal. Tenzin shows us what an airbending master can truly do. We also see that the new gang has grown strong enough to now be capable of taking on Equalist and the platinum mechs. Lin was amazing this episode. Between her choosing to sacrifice herself to protect Tenzin's family and defiantly standing up to Amon about Korra, I have to say she's really grown on me. She has really changed from when we first met her. And that final picture of Republic City burning and destroyed was dramatic. Glad that Zuko's son/grandson is on the way to help fight.
It's the 2nd time in a row that people get the complete opposite picture of what I just said. I never claimed that Zuko was back then part of the United Forces, you just turned the causality I was referring upside down, it's the exact opposite I was saying. It doesn't mean necessarily it has something to do with the United Forces, but you can't say either that it doesn't for certain.
Zuko and Iroh are Fire Nation royalty, so it could be explained that it's just at most a fashion statement, but then why would Bumi be running around in it (I seriously doubt it was a mistake in that drawing)? Everyone must have noticed by now the symbolism in the cloths of the people, even in Repbulic City people from the Water Tribes wear blue, Earth Kingdom green, Air Nomad orange and Fire Nation red. Bumi's parents were a water and air bender, so why would he be running around in a fire nation getup? Always possible, but we also know that Zuko tried his entire life to restore the world again and that he had a strong influence on the United Republic of Nations, and thus also on the United Forces (hence is probably the reason as why Iroh is now general).
So saying that the original fire nation fashion made its way as an officers uniform isn't really a far-fetched idea, especially considering such armies are normally not going to have mixed uniforms, which is also backed up by that the metalbending corps consists of people originating from different backgrounds, but wear a common uniform.
On top of that his brother is in the council of Republic City, his uncle was once also in that council and his father was the Avatar. So there would be indeed a very reasonable chance that Bumi started a career in the United Forces and would explain that he is wearing a uniform that originates from the Fire Nation if he would have gotten a high rank in it.
Of course this is nothing more than a possibility, another idea is that Bumi just married Zuko's daughter -as we know he had one- and became Fire Nation royalty. But come one be serious, how is it possible that you people start talking about Zuko being part of the United Forces at that point in his life =/
It could all be fluke to, but as I said I sincerely doubt that's the case.
Last edited:
-Haku Yuki-
Active member
Awards
that and once again could be incest. aang is spirtually related to zuko though roku thsu aang and his desencts are also related to zuko spiritually zuko is related to aangs past life zukos daughter is teh great gran duagter of roku ( and by some extend aang) and bumi is related to aang ( son) and thus is the son of the previous avatar ( roku) to some extend aswell making all of aangs family related to zuko/azula and all of their desendents
Did you now seriously say incest? Incest, Seriously
Bumi is physically related to Zuko as much as he's related to the Cabbage Merchant. As you said it's SPIRITUALLY, nothing else. Spiritual means by its very definition IN SPIRIT. Physically they have zero connection whatsoever and incest is purely physical. Guru Pathick was also a 'spiritual brother' of the Air Nomads. Zuko is Roku's great-great grandson, not Aang's.
Come one, that you now even mentioned that, be serious for a moment. That Zuko's ancestor and Bumi's father were both Avatars has squad to do with this.
Last edited:
Amon is Aang's first reincarnation. When Aang was killed by Azula, even though he was in the Avatar State, the Avatar was not removed from existence yet. When he was revived, his reincarnation had already began even though he was not completely dead. Since he was in the Avatar State when he died, the reincarnation was twisted and was a completely spiritual being, unable to bend anything except energy.Did you now seriously say incest? Incest, Seriously
Bumi is physically related to Zuko as much as he's related to the Cabbage Merchant. As you said it's SPIRITUALLY, nothing else. Spiritual means by its very definition IN SPIRIT. Physically they have zero connection whatsoever and incest is purely physical. Guru Pathick was also a 'spiritual brother' of the Air Nomads. Zuko is Roku's great-great grandson, not Aang's.
Come one, that you now even mentioned that, be serious for a moment. That Zuko's ancestor and Bumi's father were both Avatars has squad to do with this.
Later, when Aang actually died, his true reincarnation was born, Korra. However, since basically half of the Avatar was already reincarnated (as a spiritual being), Korra was reincarnated as a physical being.
This explains why Amon can energybend and why Korra is so shitty at spiritual things.
well on the wiki it says that zuko's daughter is the fire lord so its possible that general iroh is his son and the voice actor who did zuko is doing general iroh so that could be a connection there and on wikipedia under episode notes it said a character will be revealed directly connected to zuko.
That's one theory, but not one I personally would give much chance of actually being true considering it's full of holes and I don't really understand what that has anything to do with my post you quoted.
How could the same being possibly reincarnate twice at the same time? Also that would make Amon around 70 years old. Not impossible, but it makes not much sense that Amon has been waiting for so long. Also it has already been explained why Korra is bad at the spiritual side of things. Avatar Roku also had problems with the Avatar State, so that Avatars have problem with the spiritual side of things isn't new. Also Korra has a spiritual connection with Aang, so it's impossible for her to be just a 'physical being', while on the other side taken away someone's bending could be very well considered a physical aspect.
There are countless of theories you could and have been formulated as why Amon can take away bending, but I don't give this one much chance of being true. It has too many holes in it, especially when it was said that when the Avatar is killed in the Avatar State, he vanishes (you wonder how they could possibly know that, but considering the Avatar said it himself, there's no reason to assume it isn't like that). So just saying that the Avatar started reincarnating again, but stopped halfway is not really a theory that has a solid basis.
Well that general Iroh is Zuko's relative is pretty much certain, there's no reason to doubt about that. The only question that remains is whether he's the son of Zuko's daughter, thus Zuko's grandson, or that Zuko just had a son very late in his life.
Last edited:
Tbh it has the same amount of solid basis as the people who are saying amont is blocking chakra's and other theories.
Korra has had absolutely no interaction with the spirits of past avatars (apart from incredibly rare visions she gets) to be honest, I dont think she can even go into the avatar state.
As for amon, it is possible he is like 70 years old as you say, but it is also possible that he is a young man (remember when the aang got struck by azula he was just a kid) He even stated in the first episode of the book of fire that he wasnt just knocked out...he was gone, but the spirits intervened in the form of katara using the spirit water to heal aangs injury.
What I am speculating is that the lighning from Azula that had Aang on the brink of death/then the way he was brought back by the spirits, split the physical and spiritual side of the avatar inside Aang, so when he died the physical aspect (earth/water/fire) went to Korra and the spiritual aspect (avatar state/airbending/energybending) went to Amon.
And yes, this is me saying that I believe that Amon around the same age as Korra. This theory actually has alot more solid info behind it than the chakra blocking theory which seems purely speculation to me.
Actually the theory that Amon blocks someone's bending instead of stealing it has a way more solid basis than your theory for the simple fact that there is nothing that contradicts, while there are two major flaws in what you're saying.
1) An Avatar confirmed that when you die in the Avatar State, the Avatar ceases to exist. So you saying he already started reincarnating again is a straight contradiction of that. Yes Aang was gone, completely, but Katara and the Spirit Water brought him back. As said that Spirit Water was really Spirit Water, it was unique in the world. Calling it a spiritual medicine would be quite accurate. That it can bring back an Avatar, which it did, is very well possible. Also Katara didn't had anything to do with spirits, you make it sound like she was possessed or something.
2) Even assuming somehow a spiritual part of the Avatar started reincarnating again, then how is it possible Aang could still airbend like it was nothing, go in and out of the Avatar State and live like any other Avatar for the remainder of his life? This is even more of a contradiction than the first point as how is it possible that Aang can do it, but Korra can not who is according to you the reincarnated version of Aang's spirit?
These are two points that make your entire theory crumble, however there is nothing major that invalidates the theory that Amon just blocks someone's bending. It doesn't prove that Amon really blocks bending, but unlike your theory it isn't invalidated either. If you take a look at both of them, it's very obvious that it's way more possible, logical and rational that he would be blocking bending than that he would be some kind of Avatar extract.
If the spiritual part was really gone, then the Avatar wouldn't even exist anymore as how is he going to reincarnate then? Not to mention all the elements have both a physical and spiritual aspect, it's just that air is much more aimed at the spiritual side than most of the other elements. Also Korra had interaction with Aang, the fact that she got those visions, rare or not, proves that, so that's again something that undermines your entire theory. Especially because rarely an Avatar knows before his/her sixteenth birthday that he/she is the Avatar. So that, at her age, she doesn't have much of a spiritual connection yet is actually perfectly normal on top of being bad at the spiritual part. So that's not an argument either you can use. That both Aang and Korra knew that they were Avatar at such a young age are exceptions and Aang was completely the opposite of Korra. Roku on the other hand, when the tried to master the Avatar State, also horribly failed to the point he tried to force himself into it and caused quite a lot of damage to his surroundings.
The only reason why Aang was a kid despite his age was because he was trapped in an iceberg for a 100 years in the Avatar State, but after that he just aged normally. What you're saying about that doesn't even make sense as how is it possible Amon just stopped aging at a certain point? Unless he trapped himself too in an iceberg.
So no your theory lacks any kind and I mean any kind of fundament or basis and there are quite a few things that completely contradict it. So yes the chances that this is actually case are extremely low. On the other hand the theory that Amon just blocks someone bending is still perfectly possible as what argument can you give to say that it's not possible? I can give you an entire explanation as why that theory is very plausible. Your entire theory is speculation, while that the Blocking theory has a strong basis to fall upon, if you want I can give it to you.
General Iroh? It's the same voice actor who voiced Zuko and he didn't even masked his voice, it's exactly the same. It's odd though to hear him like that.
Last edited:
IMO Amon isn't a spirit, but probably had a spirit world experience similar to Uncle Iroh in ATLA. I'm also leaning towards the absorption theory, which is that Amon is actually ABSORBING bending powers rather than simply taking them away. This is only because in the finale trailer there are shots that appear to show Amon bloodbending.
The same arm movements Yakone uses on Aang to lift him up via bloodbending.
Mako's whacked out arm movements give me the feeling he's being bloodbended, who knows?
This also ties into the fact that Amon uses different chi points to take away bending than what Aang used. Does it have a different effect?
I also don't buy into the "Amon is a spirit which is why he resisted bloodbending" when he's clearly affected by it somewhat.
I'm thinking, since he was wealth and technology (Hiroshi) on his side, that his body is mechanical or some sections of it are. He can resist bloodbending being made of metal, but is still affected since 100% of his body isn't robotic or whatever. In essence, a cyborg. If the story about his past is true, maybe that fire bender took away more than his face?
On the topic of his actual identity, no idea XD
Guess we'll (hopefully) find out this saturday
You must be registered for see images
The same arm movements Yakone uses on Aang to lift him up via bloodbending.
You must be registered for see images
Mako's whacked out arm movements give me the feeling he's being bloodbended, who knows?
This also ties into the fact that Amon uses different chi points to take away bending than what Aang used. Does it have a different effect?
I also don't buy into the "Amon is a spirit which is why he resisted bloodbending" when he's clearly affected by it somewhat.
I'm thinking, since he was wealth and technology (Hiroshi) on his side, that his body is mechanical or some sections of it are. He can resist bloodbending being made of metal, but is still affected since 100% of his body isn't robotic or whatever. In essence, a cyborg. If the story about his past is true, maybe that fire bender took away more than his face?
On the topic of his actual identity, no idea XD
Guess we'll (hopefully) find out this saturday
-Haku Yuki-
Active member
Awards
airing right now. whats the lowest quity video on the site you post cail? i wanna watch it but i can't because i don't ahve the channel so i have no choice nbut to watch it here
-Haku Yuki-
Active member
Awards
yeah i hope the few things i read aren't true. like korra really lost her bending :| i mean if what that one coment said was true korra really lost her bending i'll be pissed :| you can't take away the main heros power unless its at the very end ( and read this coment before the epsiode should have ended)