Discussion: Has Naruto really surpassed Minato?

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Naruto has grown so much in the shippuden. And multiple times it's been stated that Naruto has surpassed somebody (Kakashi or Jiraya) because he created rasen shurikan or learned senjutsu. Yes, Naruto has become great, but has he surpassed his father?

Minato invented the rasengan and Naruto invented the rasen shurikan. Minato couldn't complete the rasengan because he died. So the rasen shurikan has surpassed the rasengan. However, the rasegan still has important properties. For instance, if you wanted to seriously injury or impair your opponent but not kill them the rasengan is better (like how Naruto recently did with Sasuke).

Naruto has mastered Sage mode and Minato hasn't. In addition, Naruto has KM.

On the flip side, Minato has FTG. Naruto can get fast too with KM. However, we don't know which one is faster. We just know that both are faster than the Raikage.

Minato knows sealing jutsus from the Uzumaki clan. I forget what's it called.

Also, maybe its just me, but it seems that Minato just has it all together. Jiraya called him a genius you only see once a generation. He's smart and analytical, and Naruto's . . . not. He analyzed Kakashi's chidori and determined that Kakashi's wasn't ready to use it.

Anyway. Thoughts?
 

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Characters all have there flaws, Kishi hasnt expressed Minato's yet. Naruto is somewhat dumb but he has raw power and speed. Minato is just one of those static characters that are supposed to be idolized in the world of Naruto. Soon, and i mean very soon, Naruto willbe on the same level.
 

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He has surpassed him in some aspects, and at the same time he didn't.
1.He surpassed him by creating the rasenshuriken.
2.By learning SM, there is no proof whatsoever if Minato had SM or not, but Naruto's SM was perfect, he even surpassed the toad sage Jyraia.
3.With his victory against the Kiuby he gained access to incredible power, speed and all that. So i guess we could say that he surpassed Minato when it comes to pure speed.

Now on the other hand:
1.Minato still has FTG which is above any speed or space time jutsu we have seen so far.
2.He knows seals from the Uzumaki clan.
3.He still is smarter, more tactical, and has more experience than Naruto.

So overall i still think Naruto hasn't yet surpassed his father, he is close... i think he will surpass him by the end of the war.
 

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He has surpassed him in some aspects, and at the same time he didn't.
1.He surpassed him by creating the rasenshuriken.
2.By learning SM, there is no proof whatsoever if Minato had SM or not, but Naruto's SM was perfect, he even surpassed the toad sage Jyraia.
3.With his victory against the Kiuby he gained access to incredible power, speed and all that. So i guess we could say that he surpassed Minato when it comes to pure speed.

Now on the other hand:
1.Minato still has FTG which is above any speed or space time jutsu we have seen so far.
2.He knows seals from the Uzumaki clan.
3.He still is smarter, more tactical, and has more experience than Naruto.

So overall i still think Naruto hasn't yet surpassed his father, he is close... i think he will surpass him by the end of the war.
good answer :) I think so too...
 
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