[Debate] Dinosaurs Co-Exist With Man/Have Co-Existed With Man

[Grim]

it's obvious in some point. When did human created word ''dinosaur'' ? And Dragons we're in tails and storys all over the world for fousand of years and yet.... Dragons = Dinasaurs? tails or reality interesting because we have bones.

Interesting.. heard it before from few mason mates


But I have to see it to belive it

 

[Antiance]

Dinosaurs ceased to exist millions of years ago. Homo Sapiens first appeared around 100,000 years ago. Ergo, dinosaurs and humans never co-existed, or else our species would have died out. Our ancestors probably existed with dinosaurs, but mostly likely didn't have the brainpower to be self-aware as we are.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

ya need to do ya own research...

tell me why how is it possible for a t rex to have tissue still in its bone marrow when its claimed to have died off millions of years ago, thats impossible...

tell me why dinosaur and human fossils have been found near each other dating back to the same time periods? no one who disagrees with this have tried to even answer this.. not even Cali, he just shrugged it off.

Tsuchi i didnt expect a comment like that from you, i expect it from some of the other members in here but not a mod.

"i find naruto jutsus more believable" really? did you even read what i wrote or actually look into it? did you check the vids i posted?

 

[NarutoKage2]

ya need to do ya own research...

tell me why how is it possible for a t rex to have tissue still in its bone marrow when its claimed to have died off millions of years ago, thats impossible...

tell me why dinosaur and human fossils have been found near each other dating back to the same time periods? no one who disagrees with this have tried to even answer this.. not even Cali, he just shrugged it off.

Tsuchi i didnt expect a comment like that from you, i expect it from some of the other members in here but not a mod.

"i find naruto jutsus more believable" really? did you even read what i wrote or actually look into it? did you check the vids i posted?

sorry but i checked ur links. they are from sites made by defensive anglicans who take a literal interpretation of genesis. try posting a link from somewhere other than bible.co or some such. same thing is true of the vids u have shown.

 

[Olorin]

ya need to do ya own research...

tell me why how is it possible for a t rex to have tissue still in its bone marrow when its claimed to have died off millions of years ago, thats impossible...

tell me why dinosaur and human fossils have been found near each other dating back to the same time periods? no one who disagrees with this have tried to even answer this.. not even Cali, he just shrugged it off.

Tsuchi i didnt expect a comment like that from you, i expect it from some of the other members in here but not a mod.

"i find naruto jutsus more believable" really? did you even read what i wrote or actually look into it? did you check the vids i posted?

tell me ... how come there are pictures of bigfoot?

 

[ackeem1992]

lol dude lay off ancients alien, they stir up a good argument yes, but most of the time their findings are inconclusive.

 

[Lupeus]

Ok forgive me, im just about dead right now and pushing 30 hours without sleep but something on here caught my attention otherwise i wouldnt get involved for the soul reason the only science im good with is Biology as well as Anatomy and Physiology but with this...

ya need to do ya own research...

tell me why how is it possible for a t rex to have tissue still in its bone marrow when its claimed to have died off millions of years ago, thats impossible...

?

Im gonna ask, what kind of tissue was in the t rexs bone marrow?...

 

[TheItachiUchiha]

I don't believe the "human" we know today has co-existed with dinosaurs. But the species we evolved from? probably co-existed with them.

 

[Avani]

ya need to do ya own research...

tell me why how is it possible for a t rex to have tissue still in its bone marrow when its claimed to have died off millions of years ago, thats impossible...

tell me why dinosaur and human fossils have been found near each other dating back to the same time periods? no one who disagrees with this have tried to even answer this.. not even Cali, he just shrugged it off.

Tsuchi i didnt expect a comment like that from you, i expect it from some of the other members in here but not a mod.

"i find naruto jutsus more believable" really? did you even read what i wrote or actually look into it? did you check the vids i posted?

What makes you think being a mod means putting ones common sense in a locker and throwing away the keys?

Education is a wonderful thing. I have studied this subject pretty well in the university . I don't rely on shady internet sites for it

 

[benIncher]

Crocodiles existed during the times of Dinosaurs, and they are still about. But man never lived alongside the big Dinosaurs, T-Rex and other big monsters. They had died out long before we had evolved from sea creatures.
There may be proof to help your argument on youtube, but there is also a youtube video saying the moon is a spaceship planted for aliens to attack. So i'm inclined to disbelieve homemade youtube videos.

 

[Avani]

Here is another article about your dino:

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Some living fossils e.g. tuatara from dino age are still around but just because they have been around this long to see both dino and humans, does't mean that rest of the living beings including humans also existed back then. They show unique features which enabled them to exist all this time.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Spoiler

You keep saying hardcore facts, but where are they then? By default these are no real facts, in the least not the kind of 'facts' that prove what you say. If that was the case, then we wouldn't have this discussion.

1) Your first argument about different cultures having pictures, potteries, myths and whatever is by its very nature invalid. Then you're assuming all those things actually would represent things they saw. That's an extreme naive notion as then you're saying people always make things they have seen for themselves and always write down the truth. With other words it would be no different than me now drawing a dinosaur on my wall and 2000 years from now people find it and say "they lived with dinosaurs because it's clearly written on the wall". You completely disregard the context in which all of those drawings and objects were made, not to mention ignore the human imagination. If anything this actually goes against your theory for the simple fact that most of those cultures you mentioned can be easily dated. If they lived with dino's, why haven't they found any traces of them? Relatively seen those cultures lived very recently. If they lived with dino's, there should be real, substantial evidence present like skeletons, which is not the case. All the remains of dino's are incredibly old, how is it possible that we don't have any recent remains then?

There is indeed a theory that dinosaurs were the inspiration of dragons, however just based on their skeletons and thus is no proof either. We find skeletons all the time, so that they could find some in the past and created a mythical dragon of it is very plausible, but that has nothing to do with saying that they actually lived together. Same with saying that dino's replaced dragons. Dinosaurs is just a scientific name given to their species based on the remains they found, if they did the same with dragons you could say dino's replaced dragons, however that has nothing to do with saying that humans and dino's lived together as no such remains exist. Till now all the dino remains preceded the human race by far.

Yes I also know of that footprint, I read it in a book of conspiracy theories of M. Baigent, however one footprint? Be real. You're also making a big mistake by sticking to an archetypical dragon, however you completely neglect the diversity of how dragons are perceived. The way you're talking is like that everyone had the same image of what a dragon was, but that's a huge mistake.

Either way nothing of this all proves a thing. At most it could be that dino's were the inspiration for dragons, however that doesn't mean they lived together, not even close. So everything in your first four paragraphs are invalid. They don't prove what you claim in the least.

2) Loch Ness monster has still not been proven to exist and they did some very thorough searches for it. There does not exist a single picture that clearly proves it. The most famous one ever taken was proven to be a hoax. One of the biggest issues with the entire story of Loch Ness is that even if it existed, how is it possible it survived that long? If it would reproduce, it would mean there are more and thus they should have been found by now. There are countless of local legends like that all around the world, like in Congo where you are referring too, but that doesn't mean they're true. In Mongolia they believe that under the sand of the Gobi desert live humongous worms that can spit out acid.

Just some eye witness reports are no proof either. It's easy to mistake something for something else, especially when there is already a local legend about it. Then it's very easy to start seeing things you were expecting to see.


3) Again with the stories? Marco Polo wrote that in the East there were people walking with only one leg and whatnot. Does that make it true? Of course not. You in fact you just again invalidated what you just said. If there are so many stories about people slaying dragons and what not, where are their remains? There is not even a single trace of them. Newsflash but till very recently, and I mean like the last two centuries, people didn't really write things down objectively. That they wrote things that were simply not true was perfectly normal.

We have not been lied to, common sense just prevails. If you are going to claim that what you're saying here is true and that we have been lied to, I'm going to close this thread and infract you for trolling as that's simply what you're doing then. That you want to believe this that is your business and you're free to debate about it, but that also means you need to take into consideration you're simply wrong, however if you're going claim that this is the truth based on some half-baked, brittle arguments and that we have been lied to, then you're just trolling.

You made one humongous mistake and that's that you only provided arguments that could possibly back you up, however you did not invalidated anything that goes against it. Tell me why do you think the mainstream believe is that we did not live with dino's? For the simple fact that there is countless of evidence from a variety of sources that proves that notion. So you would need to disapprove those, which you did not do. On top of that everything you said can hardly be called evidence. It's shallow and naive and above all lacks any kind of solid, physical proof. Everything you said can easily be disregarded.

On top of that not all dino's died, so humans have always been living together with dino's. At most it might be possible that on some very remote locations a real dino survived, however there's a big difference between saying that somewhere in a European or African lake in the middle of nowhere live 5 dino's and that the entire world is populated by them.

^This /Thread

How do you post a thread with no actual Facts and then say you wrote too much at the end of your claim?

 

[Aze]

I can name only one Pre Jurasic animal species who has survived = Sharks .


Dinosaurs = If someone believe this , then = call lost and found department = and ask for your brain.


Also it's imposible for dinosaurs to live in current conditions.


Im out.

Hope it helped.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

sorry but i checked ur links. they are from sites made by defensive anglicans who take a literal interpretation of genesis. try posting a link from somewhere other than bible.co or some such. same thing is true of the vids u have shown.

theres nothing wrong taking literal interpretation of genesis. why is that an issue? its better then believing you came from a monkey that came from a fish that came from a rock.

i didnt post the link of bible.co but the sites have pics from bible.co because bible.co post evidence that suggest man lived with dinosaurs.

the vids also are full of evidence and give proof.

you are commiting the fallacy of dismissal and strawman. if you ignored that the links and vids are made from religious people then what you have is artifacts and exaplanations that suggest humans living with dinosaurs and dinosaurs not being 65 millions years old but only extinct for a few thousands of years. dont dismiss the links and vids just because the people believed in genesis. dont be that ignorant.

tell me ... how come there are pictures of bigfoot?

tell me why are you commiting the Red Herring fallacy?

lol dude lay off ancients alien, they stir up a good argument yes, but most of the time their findings are inconclusive.

this aint about aliens man.. trust me you should look into this.. btw i dont buy into aliens and stuff

Ok forgive me, im just about dead right now and pushing 30 hours without sleep but something on here caught my attention otherwise i wouldnt get involved for the soul reason the only science im good with is Biology as well as Anatomy and Physiology but with this...



Im gonna ask, what kind of tissue was in the t rexs bone marrow?...

look it up man, this was a controversal topic... but anyways any tissue should be impossible if its 65 millions years old...

nobody in this thread still hasnt addressed this.. i mean to answer and explain..

I don't believe the "human" we know today has co-existed with dinosaurs. But the species we evolved from? probably co-existed with them.

the foot prints was identical to that of a footprint of you and me...

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why were there so many ancient civilizations that drew and carved dinosaurs and drew dinosaurs co existing with people?

What makes you think being a mod means putting ones common sense in a locker and throwing away the keys?

Education is a wonderful thing. I have studied this subject pretty well in the university . I don't rely on shady internet sites for it

um no.. you are being rude. like a typical member who is a noob or a troll. your not acting like a mod that should be respectful to members. just saying

im not talking about common sense or anything.. and common sense doesnt have anything to do with this. if you looked at the links and pics then you would see historical artifacts of human and dinosaurs fossils co existing. and the best you can say is that education is a wonderful thing? then get educated.

shady internet sites? do i have to name the fallacies being commited here?

Crocodiles existed during the times of Dinosaurs, and they are still about. But man never lived alongside the big Dinosaurs, T-Rex and other big monsters. They had died out long before we had evolved from sea creatures.
There may be proof to help your argument on youtube, but there is also a youtube video saying the moon is a spaceship planted for aliens to attack. So i'm inclined to disbelieve homemade youtube videos.

the fact that crocodiles come from the dino era and still live with man while man evolving from apes to man makes not a gawd damn sense. if organisms are constantly changing and evolving then why did the crocs, sharks, and etc that came from the dino era just stopped evolving while apes were turning into man? but people buy into this shit and call creationists stupid.. smfh..

anyways the youtube moon thing is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the vids i posted. just because the moon thing comes from youtube and is bull doesnt mean the vids about dinosaurs co existing with man are bull.. you obviosuly didnt look at all the facts before commenting. look it up

Here is another article about your dino:

You must be registered for see links

Some living fossils e.g. tuatara from dino age are still around but just because they have been around this long to see both dino and humans, does't mean that rest of the living beings including humans also existed back then. They show unique features which enabled them to exist all this time.

i saw the link. there are other explanations to the stegosaur looking thing, but the poeple who saw it making it out of fossils or a chameleon is bullshit.. but it stills resembles a stego, even though there may be more explanations doesnt mean that the explanation that it was made from a dino is wrong. its still a valid explanation.

especially with added to ALL the other drawings and interpretations of dinosaurs in ancient artifacts around the world. again... around the world...

^This /Thread

How do you post a thread with no actual Facts and then say you wrote too much at the end of your claim?

how do you go to a thread, do not read, and comment, revealing how ignorant you are?

read the previous posts

 

[Aze]

theres nothing wrong taking literal interpretation of genesis. why is that an issue? its better then believing you came from a monkey that came from a fish that came from a rock.

i didnt post the link of bible.co but the sites have pics from bible.co because bible.co post evidence that suggest man lived with dinosaurs.

the vids also are full of evidence and give proof.

you are commiting the fallacy of dismissal and strawman. if you ignored that the links and vids are made from religious people then what you have is artifacts and exaplanations that suggest humans living with dinosaurs and dinosaurs not being 65 millions years old but only extinct for a few thousands of years. dont dismiss the links and vids just because the people believed in genesis. dont be that ignorant.



tell me why are you commiting the Red Herring fallacy?



this aint about aliens man.. trust me you should look into this.. btw i dont buy into aliens and stuff



look it up man, this was a controversal topic... but anyways any tissue should be impossible if its 65 millions years old...

nobody in this thread still hasnt addressed this.. i mean to answer and explain..



the foot prints was identical to that of a footprint of you and me...

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

why were there so many ancient civilizations that drew and carved dinosaurs and drew dinosaurs co existing with people?



um no.. you are being rude. like a typical member who is a noob or a troll. your not acting like a mod that should be respectful to members. just saying

im not talking about common sense or anything.. and common sense doesnt have anything to do with this. if you looked at the links and pics then you would see historical artifacts of human and dinosaurs fossils co existing. and the best you can say is that education is a wonderful thing? then get educated.

shady internet sites? do i have to name the fallacies being commited here?



the fact that crocodiles come from the dino era and still live with man while man evolving from apes to man makes not a gawd damn sense. if organisms are constantly changing and evolving then why did the crocs, sharks, and etc that came from the dino era just stopped evolving while apes were turning into man? but people buy into this shit and call creationists stupid.. smfh..

anyways the youtube moon thing is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the vids i posted. just because the moon thing comes from youtube and is bull doesnt mean the vids about dinosaurs co existing with man are bull.. you obviosuly didnt look at all the facts before commenting. look it up



i saw the link. there are other explanations to the stegosaur looking thing, but the poeple who saw it making it out of fossils or a chameleon is bullshit.. but it stills resembles a stego, even though there may be more explanations doesnt mean that the explanation that it was made from a dino is wrong. its still a valid explanation.

especially with added to ALL the other drawings and interpretations of dinosaurs in ancient artifacts around the world. again... around the world...



how do you go to a thread, do not read, and comment, revealing how ignorant you are?

read the previous posts

Say this all to the Academic community : Proffesors , Doctors = PPL = who have researched the subject for 30+ years and they all say = this :






Dinosaurs are a diverse group of animals of the clade Dinosauria. They first appeared during the Triassic period, approximately 230 million years ago, and became the dominant terrestrial vertebrates for 135 million years, from the beginning of the Jurassic (about 200 million years ago) until the end of the Cretaceous (65.5 million years ago), when the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event led to the extinction of most dinosaur groups at the close of the Mesozoic era. The fossil record indicates that birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs during the Jurassic, and consequently they are considered a type of dinosaur in modern classification systems.[1][2] Some birds survived the extinction event that occurred 65 million years ago, and continue the dinosaur lineage to the present day.



Humans do not have co excited with Dinosaurs : All of this BS on the internet is made up by evangelical book of genesis readers = creationists ( not very intelligent people).


Do not believe/support the ideas of people who dismiss science as its whole.


The process of Evolution is 100% correct and has been proven.

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[Dihajum3]

One of your argument is old cave paintings depicting Dinosaurs with humans. Although there are no such paintings i am aware of but still i'll assume you are right.That proves nothing. I've sen cave paintings depicting people slaying dragons, lifting mountains, growing wings, levitating and defying many other laws of physics and nature. Does that mean anything ? No,of course not.Ever heard about Ajanta caves ? That place is full of ancient paintings and many of them are screwed up.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

how do you go to a thread, do not read, and comment, revealing how ignorant you are?

read the previous posts

Bro:
Le Bolded; I commented, which is why you replied.

Le Underline; Meh... I read like half way, it was ...naive... gullible...

Didn't mean to be so ignorant bro...I didn't want to wrote so much.

Lucky me, someone(s) posted exactly what i felt like saying...

 

[NarutoKage2]

theres nothing wrong taking literal interpretation of genesis. why is that an issue? its better then believing you came from a monkey that came from a fish that came from a rock.

i didnt post the link of bible.co but the sites have pics from bible.co because bible.co post evidence that suggest man lived with dinosaurs.

the vids also are full of evidence and give proof.

you are commiting the fallacy of dismissal and strawman. if you ignored that the links and vids are made from religious people then what you have is artifacts and exaplanations that suggest humans living with dinosaurs and dinosaurs not being 65 millions years old but only extinct for a few thousands of years. dont dismiss the links and vids just because the people believed in genesis. dont be that ignorant.

That's quite laughable considering how nonsensical your claim is that you'd call me ignorant for pointing out the facts. Suit yourself, bro keep believing dinos and man co existed, and showing pictures from religious sites that claim to prove it. Despite having all the evidence thrown at your face, if your still dumb enough to believe that dinos and man lived at the same time, then there's nothing i can do to help you, i'm afraid.

Erm, and if you take an absolutely literal interpretation of everything Genesis says, then you believe that there is a giant ocean(water vault) above the sky as well:

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[Olorin]

this is getting ridiculous so ill be ridiculous:
ppl who believe in evolution made

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and give us ppl like:

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creationists give us ppl like

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my point: the world of science (i.e. the smartest ppl) is largly dominated by evolutionists because they get evolution and see how creationists are desperately holding onto the bible

 

[Aze]

this is getting ridiculous so ill be ridiculous:
ppl who believe in evolution made

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and give us ppl like:

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creationists give us ppl like

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my point: the world of science (i.e. the smartest ppl) is largly dominated by evolutionists because they get evolution and see how creationists are desperately holding onto the bible

That's true.

Can you believe this , creationists are walking around with a bible = And explaining something and claiming , that it's scientific evidence.

Actualy it's something called : Argument from ignorance , and the owner of this Thread is a fine example of this type of situation.


Practicaly if this guy calls absolutely every person who have studied Dinosaurs for 30+ years.


= Then non of them will agree with him + they will have a good laugh^^


Reason : Arguments from ignorance.​