Dinesh D'souza destroys the idea of privilege and reperations

[slimreaper]

The only reparation blacks are asking for is to stop being murdered in cold blood by the police and to have an equal chance in the US. Dinesh D'Souza is an idiot because he made a book and movie about his opinions on what Obama is going to do(Which is completely false) and tried to pass it off as facts. The dude tried to say because Obama met his father for a few months, that shaped Obama's entire life and all of his world views. The reach was so strong it was palpable through the text in the book.



In terms of American history, whites have committed an overwhelming amount of injustices. It literally isn't even a debate. That isn't to say no other race has committed a crime against humanity at all either.



Where are you getting any of this? What you're proposing is that we forget the past because it doesn't suit your agenda. The liberals are saying remember the past because that shit happened and we can't let that happen again. The only time conservatives want to remember the past is 9/11 and The Alamo. :lol



We're all Native Africans then. Everyone shares a common ancestor, so why are you even sweating it?

That's all white privilege is, seeking reparations. Bringing up past injustices for why whites have an advantages and why minorities "don't get equal opportunity". If that was the case, then the only way for them to feel as if they're getting an equal opportunity is either setting laws in their favor(affirmative action) or reparations.

In terms of history, white people are just the tip of the iceberg. You think the mongols didn't commit atrocities? What about the ming dynasty? The difference is whites rule now.

When did I suggest forget the past? The difference between forgetting the past and not doing wrong today to correct it is gigantic.

We aren't all fully native african. The first humans lived in africa but the Neanderthals lived in europe and had white skin. All non africans are related to Neanderthals. They all died, but interbreeding continues that legacy.

That being said, I personally no matter my heritage am a native american because i'm native to america.

By lumping all Indian tribes together as one, it gives them a false claim over this land (when they in fact fought amongst themselves for it) yet they all get ownership?

Tell that to the poor pueblos

 

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That's all white privilege is, seeking reparations. Bringing up past injustices for why whites have an advantages and why minorities "don't get equal opportunity". If that was the case, then the only way for them to feel as if they're getting an equal opportunity is either setting laws in their favor(affirmative action) or reparations.

That's not what white privilege is at all.

In terms of history, white people are just the tip of the iceberg. You think the mongols didn't commit atrocities? What about the ming dynasty? The difference is whites rule now.

Oh my God stop deflecting. I said American history.

When did I suggest forget the past? The difference between forgetting the past and not doing wrong today to correct it is gigantic.

We aren't all fully native african. The first humans lived in africa but the Neanderthals lived in europe and had white skin. All non africans are related to Neanderthals. They all died, but interbreeding continues that legacy.

Where did the Neanderthals come from? Where did Neanderthals migrate from and to? Oh right. So once again, you're a Native African. Neanderthals did not just randomly appear in Eurasia.

That being said, I personally no matter my heritage am a native american because i'm native to america.

If you say so.

By lumping all Indian tribes together as one, it gives them a false claim over this land (when they in fact fought amongst themselves for it) yet they all get ownership?

So because they fought each other means they don't own it? So if during the US Civil War the British came in and annihilated both sides and were like, "Alright we live here now. Ya'll never owned this shit because you were fighting over it(?). So yeah, we're going to kill you all save for a few thousand and claim we did nothing wrong. Thanks guys."

 

[Cooh]

Where did the Neanderthals come from? Where did Neanderthals migrate from and to? Oh right. So once again, you're a Native African. Neanderthals did not just randomly appear in Eurasia.

Neanderthals evolved from Homo Heidelbergensis, a hominid species that had migrated out of Africa thousands of years before modern Homo Sapiens left Africa. Neanderthals are the only hominid to evolve outside Africa. They were adapted for the climate of Ice Age Europe. The question is how far are we going back?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Slimreaper is just trying to be edgy by calling them Indians instead of Native Americans.

 

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Neanderthals evolved from Homo Heidelbergensis, a hominid species that had migrated out of Africa thousands of years before modern Homo Sapiens left Africa. Neanderthals are the only hominid to evolve outside Africa. They were adapted for the climate of Ice Age Europe. The question is how far are we going back?

Like humans, Neanderthals originated in Africa but migrated to Eurasia long before humans did. Neanderthals lived across Eurasia, as far north and west as the Britain, through part of the Middle East, to Uzbekistan. Popular estimates put the peak Neanderthal population around 70,000, though some scientists put the number drastically

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, at around 3,500 females.

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[Cooh]

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Did you even read what I wrote? Come to think of that Hip-Hop/Rap debate, you might really have a reading problem.

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"Remains left by Neanderthals include bone and stone tools, which are found in Eurasia, from Western Europe to Central and Northern Asia and the Middle East."

There's no proof Neanderthals were ever in Africa. As I wrote before they descended from Homo Heidelbergensis who came from Africa but the Neanderthals themselves evolved in Eurasia.

 

[slimreaper]

Slimreaper is just trying to be edgy by calling them Indians instead of Native Americans.

Slimreaper described exactly why he calls them that

 

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Did you even read what I wrote? Come to think of that Hip-Hop/Rap debate, you might really have a reading problem.

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"Remains left by Neanderthals include bone and stone tools, which are found in Eurasia, from Western Europe to Central and Northern Asia and the Middle East."

There's no proof Neanderthals were ever in Africa. As I wrote before they descended from Homo Heidelbergensis who came from Africa but the Neanderthals themselves evolved in Eurasia.

@Bold wasn't much of a 'debate' because you didn't know what you were talking about at all. Confusing opinion with fact.

Anyway, where are you getting these 'facts' from? I don't consider wikipedia a viable source.

 

[Cooh]

@Bold wasn't much of a 'debate' because you didn't know what you were talking about at all. Confusing opinion with fact.

Anyway, where are you getting these 'facts' from? I don't consider wikipedia a viable source.

Nah, it looked like me and Sasuketheemo were the only ones who knew what they are talking about. You didn't even realize that I was only talking about the genre and not the culture, even though I stated it numerous of times. :lol

Just google it and I learned that stuff @ the university, reading books etc.. Even the site you provided states that the oldest found Neanderthal DNA was found in Italy.

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[slimreaper]

That's not what white privilege is at all.



Oh my God stop deflecting. I said American history.



Where did the Neanderthals come from? Where did Neanderthals migrate from and to? Oh right. So once again, you're a Native African. Neanderthals did not just randomly appear in Eurasia.



If you say so.


So because they fought each other means they don't own it? So if during the US Civil War the British came in and annihilated both sides and were like, "Alright we live here now. Ya'll never owned this shit because you were fighting over it(?). So yeah, we're going to kill you all save for a few thousand and claim we did nothing wrong. Thanks guys."

That is the goal of talking about white privilege. If notit wouldn't ever be brought up.

Ok white people did bad in american history. We still aren't owed to fix anything and discriminating against whites today doesn't fix it.

Because it was the law of their land that whoever won got the land, they never owned it. We came, we won, we got the land

 

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Nah, it looked like me and Sasuketheemo were the only ones who knew what they are talking about. You didn't even realize that I was only talking about the genre and not the culture, even though I stated it numerous of times. :lol

Just google it and I learned that stuff @ the university. Even the site you provided states that the oldest found Neanderthal DNA was found in Italy.

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@Bold, what does it matter? The only part I had in that 'debate' was telling you that you don't understand Hip Hop culture. So you may take that as you want.

I'm not disputing Neanderthals were not found in Africa. I am disputing your 'facts'. Even the wiki link you provided says that there is no proof of Neanderthals and Homo Rhodesian breeding together.

Separate developments in the human line, in other regions such as Southern Africa, somewhat resembled the Eurasian Neanderthals, but these people were not Neanderthals. One such example is

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), who existed long before any classic Eurasian Neanderthals, but had a more modern set of teeth. Some H. rhodesiensis populations appeared to be on the road to modern H. sapiens sapiens. At any rate, the populations in Eurasia underwent more and more "Neanderthalization" as time went on. There is some argument that H. rhodesiensis in general was ancestral to both modern humans and Neanderthals, and that at some point the two populations went their separate ways, but this supposes that H. rhodesiensis goes back to around 600,000 years ago.
To date, no intimate connection has been found between these similar archaic people and the Eurasian Neanderthals, at least during the same time as H. rhodesiensis seems to have lived about 600,000 years ago, long before the time of classic Neanderthals. This said, some researchers think that H. rhodesiensis may have lived much later than this period, depending on the method used to date the fossils, leaving this issue open to debate. Some H. rhodesiensis features, like the large brow ridge, may have been caused by

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That means that it's possible that it happened but there is no definitive fact saying it did happen.

That is the goal of talking about white privilege. If notit wouldn't ever be brought up.

White privilege is brought up because one group of people are raised with privilege from the jump, while all of the other races have to work for it.

Ok white people did bad in american history. We still aren't owed to fix anything and discriminating against whites today doesn't fix it.

No one even suggested these things. The problem lies in the fact that conservative whites are trying to make people forget these atrocities happened by saying it's the past and they can't be blamed for it. It's not that anyone is blaming you personally, we're blaming your culture(Or lack of).

Because it was the law of their land that whoever won got the land, they never owned it. We came, we won, we got the land

Owned it in who's terms? In terms of the white man who invaded it or in terms of the Natives who lived there? It's all about perspective.

 

[Cooh]

@Bold, what does it matter? The only part I had in that 'debate' was telling you that you don't understand Hip Hop culture. So you may take that as you want.

I'm not disputing Neanderthals were not found in Africa. I am disputing your 'facts'. Even the wiki link you provided says that there is no proof of Neanderthals and Homo Rhodesian breeding together.



That means that it's possible that it happened but there is no definitive fact saying it did happen.

Yeah I know you said that, it's your defense mechanism. You state that I don't know the culture without giving any reason because you don't know what to say. :lol

Although modern humans are the only remaining human lineage, many others once lived on Earth. The closest extinct relatives of modern humans were the Neanderthals, who lived in Europe and Asia until they went extinct about 40,000 years ago. Recent findings revealed that Neanderthals interbred with ancestors of today's Europeans when modern humans began spreading out of Africa — 1.5 to 2.1 percent of the DNA of anyone living outside Africa today is Neanderthal in origin.

From the link I provided, please learn to read, thank you. Europeans have Neanderthal DNA in them, that's proof enough isn't it?

 

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Yeah I know you said that, it's your defense mechanism. You state that I don't know the culture without giving any reason because you don't know what to say. :lol

I said it because it was completely obvious from the thread but...

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In the link I provided, please learn to read thank you.

Holy shit master deflector here, Haha. Did you forget about Homo rhodesiensis so quickly?

There's no proof Neanderthals were ever in Africa. As I wrote before they descended from Homo Heidelbergensis who came from Africa but the Neanderthals themselves evolved in Eurasia.

Already forgetting you said this, or was it just your opinion that they descended from Homo Rhodesiensis? Remember that thing I said about you confusing your opinions for fact? Yeah... That's what you're doing again.

 

[SasukeTheEmo]

Slimreaper is just trying to be edgy by calling them Indians instead of Native Americans.

I destroyed him to the point that he hasn't replied back to me.

 

[slimreaper]

I destroyed him to the point that he hasn't replied back to me.

About subjectivity? Or calling them indians. Either way no, but I can't remember

 

[SasukeTheEmo]

About subjectivity? Or calling them indians. Either way no, but I can't remember

The former.
I destroyed you like how Diz destroyed Canibus.

 

[slimreaper]

The former.
I destroyed you like how Diz destroyed Canibus.

You argue using a definition of subjective that isn't real. Come back with a real argument

 

[Cooh]

I said it because it was completely obvious from the thread but...

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Holy shit master deflector here, Haha. Did you forget about Homo rhodesiensis so quickly?



Already forgetting you said this, or was it just your opinion that they descended from Homo Rhodesiensis? Remember that thing I said about you confusing your opinions for fact? Yeah... That's what you're doing again.

Ah ok it was completely obvious ooookay, yet again he doesn't know what to say :lol

Neanderthals diverged from H. heidelbergensis probably some 300,000 years ago in Europe, during the Wolstonian Stage; H. sapiens probably diverged between 200,000 and 100,000 years ago in Africa. Such fossils as the Atapuerca skull in Spain and the Kabwe skull in modern-day Zambia bear witness to the two branches of the H. heidelbergensis tree.

First off, I never said it was "fact", I also never said that neanderthals breed with heidelbergensis, please stop making things up. Also how is that important to my original question?

 

[SasukeTheEmo]

You argue using a definition of subjective that isn't real. Come back with a real argument

Because your SJW hipster definition is so legit eh?

 

[slimreaper]

Because your SJW hipster definition is so legit eh?

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Because i'm not a dumbass. Facts are objective, opinions are subjective. Musical taste is an opinion so it's subjective.