[Question] Did Zoro & Sanji even showed off their Haki yet ?

[ultraChalk]

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You can stop blowing smoke now.

I like the way you left out the next page. I'm not hating anybody or trying to take away credit from him knowing CoA. When he shows it I'll acknowledge it, but he hasn't. Anyway, next page Tashigi clearly confirmed it was not CoA.

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So there, stop getting mad. If it was CoA, she would've said something along the lines of 'haki?' 'he can use it too?' or something like that... but as you can see, she didn't. She says "if he had used Haki", so there's my manga proof and quotes. All this means is he has a special type of prowess/aura about him that makes his opponents tremble in fear, and makes weak willed logias solid, something only he can do.

And don't you think, that if that was CoA, she would've died instantly on the spot having her brain split in 2? But no, she comes back on that page, standing up, speaking and trying to attack again. Iirc the only character who can survive a blow like that was Whitebeard from Akainu, and Monet ain't no Whitebeard.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I like the way you left out the next page. I'm not hating anybody or trying to take away credit from him knowing CoA. When he shows it I'll acknowledge it, but he hasn't. Anyway, next page Tashigi clearly confirmed it was not CoA.

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So there, stop getting mad.

Slicing her cheek=Haki
Slicing her in half=no Haki

 

[ToshiZO]

LOL now I have seen it all. Wow the lengths people will go to defend their pride. Dude......he cut her. She is a logia. Tashigi was referring to when he sliced her in half, it had nothing to do with the little tiny cheek cut.

 

[ultraChalk]

Slicing her cheek=Haki
Slicing her in half=no Haki

I suggest you reread the quote she said at the bottom of the page there, "his bloodlust is palpable". Something that is palpable is able to be touch or felt. She was referring to his bloodlust that struck her, it was so intense she felt it. It's also SPECIFICALLY defined as "(especially of a feeling or atmosphere) so intense as to be almost touched or felt." Just google it.

If it was Haki, trust and believe Oda would have made that way, WAY more clear by stating in quotes somehow that he was using Haki.

 

[ToshiZO]

I suggest you reread the quote she said at the bottom of the page there, "his bloodlust is palpable". Something that is palpable is able to be touch or felt. She was referring to his bloodlust that struck her, it was so intense she felt it.

If it was Haki, trust and believe Oda would have made that way, WAY more clear by stating in quotes somehow that he was using Haki.

hahaha c'mon now, I don't think I've laughed this hard in a while. And its because I believe you're being serious, please tell me your doing this for the sake of giving everyone a good laugh.

 

[ultraChalk]

LOL now I have seen it all. Wow the lengths people will go to defend their pride. Dude......he cut her. She is a logia. Tashigi was referring to when he sliced her in half, it had nothing to do with the little tiny cheek cut.

So you're telling me, she was able to stand up, move around, talk and attack with her brain sliced in 2? No man, no. And I'm not defending any pride here I'm defending the manga facts that you are objecting. You CLEARLY see me using quotes, even Monet herself confirmed that was his blood lust/prowess.

Slicing her cheek=Haki
Slicing her in half=no Haki

And don't you think that's backwards? Why on earth, what sense would it make to slice her cheek with Haki, then decide 'no I don't want to use that again' then cut her without haki? Why would he not just use Haki the whole way?

 

[ultraChalk]

hahaha c'mon now, I don't think I've laughed this hard in a while. And its because I believe you're being serious, please tell me your doing this for the sake of giving everyone a good laugh.

Why don't you actually try defending your argument instead of making smart ass remarks? Maybe then I'd believe that was Haki.

Also, another reason that wasn't haki, was his sword wasn't entirely black. There was still a luster of white in the blade, right in the middle. Applying Haki to a sword makes the ENTIRE blade black, not just the tips. Look at Mihawks sward when he uses his haki on it. The WHOLE thing turns black.

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[ToshiZO]

So you're telling me, she was able to stand up, move around, talk and attack with her brain sliced in 2? No man, no. And I'm not defending any pride here I'm defending the manga facts that you are objecting. You CLEARLY see me using quotes, even Monet herself confirmed that was his blood lust/prowess.
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hahaha dude he purposefully didn't use Haki in that attack where he sliced her in half. LOL how can you possibly ignore that he made her bleed. What do you think he put her in a genjutsu or something.

I still can't stop laughing btw, even as I type this. This is unbelievable. I seriously wanna know what you think that blood on her cheeks was from? His demonic aura? Or perhaps he borrowed a ketchup trick from Usopp? Get real.

Edit: I seriously think you're just trolling, but this has been pretty funny either way. That Mihawk thing basically confirmed it.

 

[ultraChalk]

Are you really so shallow that you can't go a post without telling somebody who thinks otherwise to shut the **** up or call them a name? Am I really stupid for having a different viewpoint as you?

You are literally the stupidest person on this section right now. He cut her with Haki on her cheek to intimidate her. She kept slipping into the snow before when he attacked her,

This right here, wrong. He never attacked her prior to slicing her cheek. In the entirety of 686 he doesn't hit her, and she even says right here all you've been doing is defending.

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So he wasn't slicing anybodys cheek with haki, just to intimidate them. he shook her with his presence.

so he showed that COULD cut her to scare so bad, she couldn't move, and couldn't slip away.

No, that was his presence that threw her into shock. At least we agree she was too scared to move, but for different reasons.

Zoro doesn't kill anymore, that's why he let her live.

Good to know.

How else would Zoro cut and cause a Logia in their transformed state to bleed?

This is what I've been saying Zoro is unique. He can use that special move to allow him to slice logia. It's his palpable blood lust, a force that can be felt and emitted.

And if he was using haki the entire sword would be black not just the sides... that doesn't even make sense. And think about it, why would his haki, his first time ever using haki be used off screen like that? It would be a much bigger event, and way more dramatic than just slicing a cheek.

 

[Love Cook]

Slicing her cheek=Haki
Slicing her in half=no Haki

A.k.a. baby haki to the cheek

Zoro and Sanji have shown 0 impressive CoA feats, so stop hyping it

 

[Zorø]

King smoke you need to give me some of what your smoking brah XD.....and Zoro's sword doesnt have to turn black for him to be using haki There is two forms of CoA...1.when the haki armour is invisible and 2. When its black. And if you was watching one piece properly you should of taken notes from the episode when Rayleigh was teaching luffy the Haki basics U_U.

 

[Love Cook]

King smoke you need to give me some of what your smoking brah XD.....and Zoro's sword doesnt have to turn black for him to be using haki There is two forms of CoA...1.when the haki armour is invisible and 2. When its black. And if you was watching one piece properly you should of taken notes from the episode when Rayleigh was teaching luffy the Haki basics U_U.

So why does Smoker's Jutte turn black when using haki ?
Why does Vergo's Bamboo turn black when using haki ?
Why does Z's metal metal/seastone arm turn black when using haki ?

So tell me when Zoro or Sanji used the armor type according to you, It's clear that they both didn't used the black thing at least, while it's already an old trick for Luffy.

If they don't start using it soon, they will fall behind.

 

[ultraChalk]

King smoke you need to give me some of what your smoking brah XD.....and Zoro's sword doesnt have to turn black for him to be using haki There is two forms of CoA...1.when the haki armour is invisible and 2. When its black. And if you was watching one piece properly you should of taken notes from the episode when Rayleigh was teaching luffy the Haki basics U_U.

The only Haki that was ever 'invisible' was Haki from part 1.

You can't show me a single scan from part 2 where Haki is invisible again. Oda was still trying to figure out how he wanted it to be shown. So go ahead, show me a scan.

 

[ToshiZO]

A.k.a. baby haki to the cheek

Zoro and Sanji have shown 0 impressive CoA feats, so stop hyping it

leave.

The only Haki that was ever 'invisible' was Haki from part 1.

You can't show me a single scan from part 2 where Haki is invisible again. Oda was still trying to figure out how he wanted it to be shown. So go ahead, show me a scan.

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Knowing you though you'll ignore them all and make up some theory.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

So why does Smoker's Jutte turn black when using haki ?
Why does Vergo's Bamboo turn black when using haki ?
Why does Z's metal metal/seastone arm turn black when using haki ?

So tell me when Zoro or Sanji used the armor type according to you, It's clear that they both didn't used the black thing at least, while it's already an old trick for Luffy.

If they don't start using it soon, they will fall behind.

Does WB sword turn black? Does Shanks sword turn black? NO!

 

[Love Cook]

Does WB sword turn black? Does Shanks sword turn black? NO!

Dude that was pre haki explaination.

 

[Red Swag]

Zoro used armaments haki on monets cheek thats why it bled. Otherwise it would just regenerate like say aokiji.

You have to use armaments in order to touch a logia as stated by the dark king.

When it turns black thats when they use armanents hardening mode. Same haki but a bit stronger. Like lvl 2 armaments.

Yeheyyyy

 

[ToshiZO]

Dude that was pre haki explaination.

lol thanks for the neg, on a scale of 1-10 how butthurt are you?

Nobody cares about Zoro vs Sanji right now, your comments are all irrelevant.

 

[ultraChalk]

leave.

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Knowing you though you'll ignore them all and make up some theory.

Ok, you're right about a few of these.

The first one... no man, that wasn't Armament she was talking about. There are more than 1 type of haki you know, she was referring to his Observation, dodging those attacks. Why would he show AH, that early, against a pacafista?

The second one, you can't see his hand. But since he was able to go through a logia like that, yeah it's safe to assume that was Haki, and his hand was black. You can't claim that it wasn't when you can't see it, an more often than not, it is.

I don't see any Haki in that third one, and if there was some that was just observation Haki.

But the ones with Caesar, you're right on. I don't see any black on those, I'll take my L.

I can't believe you guys think I'm just making up BS though, you see me here giving you manga quotes, manga facts and definitions. It seems like this is a pointless debate, where we're just thinking different things.

 

[Love Cook]

lol thanks for the neg, on a scale of 1-10 how butthurt are you?

Nobody cares about Zoro vs Sanji right now, your comments are all irrelevant.

Why making this into a zoro vs sanji. I never even said anything about that. Maybe that's why you deserve neg rep.

Also, why quote me and say something completely irrelevant. If you have something against me just send me a message.

If you look carefully at the thread title you would notice this is about Zoro's and Sanji's haki. So in fact none of my comments were irrelevant, it's a fact that both Zoro and Sanji haven't shown any significant haki up till now, and it is Luffy who is stealing the show when it comes to that department.

To answer your question. I can't rate it on that scale because I'm 0 butthurt, negging you was most satisfying.